Keystone Pro bodybuilding show cancelled

[ripitupbaby]

I heard it from Getbig first. 

Getbig heard it from Musclephone.   

[MikeThaMachine]

less than20...is that really true?

Don't know an exact number but some friends of mine went and it was pretty empty and the mens finals didn't start until well after 9pm.

[timfogarty]

its tough to get new shows to prosper for more than a yr or 2,arnold,olymia,ny pro,ironman have been and always will last due to there reputation.

the NY Pro is a mere shadow of what the NOC was.   the Ironman moved from a 4000 seat theatre to a 1200 folding chair side room in a convention center.     The Toronto Pro (sometimes called Niagara Falls Pro) was well established but is now gone.  The European Grand Prix is gone.   San Jose/San Francisco/Sacramento Pro is gone.

[Man of Steel]

Sometimes I just can't scratch my balls enough.

[MikeThaMachine]

Sometimes I just can't scratch my balls enough.

Tell me about it!

[MB]

The problem is that fans have to travel to get to shows, so they usually choose to attend one of the two big ones (Olympia or Arnold).  That leaves the local population to attend the smaller shows.  Even NY and LA struggle to fill seats relying on the local fan base.  Why even rent auditoriums for the smaller shows.  The IFBB should set up a "studio" with proper lighting and seats for the judges and not have an audience.  This studio show could be done 4 or 5 times/year and shown on webcast.       

[MikeThaMachine]

The problem is that fans have to travel to get to shows, so they usually choose to attend one of the two big ones (Olympia or Arnold).  That leaves the local population to attend the smaller shows.  Even NY and LA struggle to fill seats relying on the local fan base.  Why even rent auditoriums for the smaller shows.  The IFBB should set up a "studio" with proper lighting and seats for the judges and not have an audience.  This studio show could be done 4 or 5 times/year and shown on webcast.       

If anything they should do more beach shows in the summer. Have them somewhere indoors and small for prejudiging and then have them outside just after dark for the finals.

[Matt C]

MUSCLEPHONE !!!!!!!!!!!
MUSCLEPHONE !!!!!!!!!!!
MUSCLEPHONE !!!!!!!!!!!
MUSCLEPHONE !!!!!!!!!!!
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[Matt C]

thats a good point

bodybuilding has no fans with no money

Fixed.

[Pollux]

Getbig heard it from Musclephone.   

LOL! 

It always goes back to Musclephone.

[njflex]

the NY Pro is a mere shadow of what the NOC was.   the Ironman moved from a 4000 seat theatre to a 1200 folding chair side room in a convention center.     The Toronto Pro (sometimes called Niagara Falls Pro) was well established but is now gone.  The European Grand Prix is gone.   San Jose/San Francisco/Sacramento Pro is gone.

TRUE,,if your getting into it yes noc would attract over 40 bbers on stage in mid nineties,niagra,san jose,san fran were all mid level staples in mid to late nineties.the grand prix is a shame because going to other countries and showcasing the best was big in the eighties and nineties too,now the olympia is u.s soil.back in haney  day they went to rimini,essen,ect...shame.

[Moosejay]

If anything they should do more beach shows in the summer. Have them somewhere indoors and small for prejudiging and then have them outside just after dark for the finals.

good idea

[dearth]

but Tim,

how can this be??
according to the IFBB athletes rep, bodybuilding is more popular than ever!!!

could the great bob chick be telling lies?

the NY Pro is a mere shadow of what the NOC was.   the Ironman moved from a 4000 seat theatre to a 1200 folding chair side room in a convention center.     The Toronto Pro (sometimes called Niagara Falls Pro) was well established but is now gone.  The European Grand Prix is gone.   San Jose/San Francisco/Sacramento Pro is gone.

[G o a t b o y]

This just in.... the NFL has cancelled all week 7 and week 15 games for the 2008 season.


Bye Japan Pro and the Keystone Pro!

Don't forget the Shawn Ray^TM Colorado Pro! 

[emn1964]

Don't forget the Shawn Ray^TM Colorado Pro! 

I can't beleive there isn't going to be any more Colorado Pro shows.  To save this "sport" we need to look to Lee Thompson fpr answers.

[G o a t b o y]

LOL! 

It always goes back to Musclephone.

MusclePhone is the I Ching of the bodybuilding world!




"In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.  Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.

And God said, "Let there be MusclePhone," and God saw that it was good."

                                                                                                      -Genesis 1

[G o a t b o y]

I received this info pre-Musclephone last year when Isaac told me there were fewer than 20 people in attendance.

... and 18 of them had schmoe   press passes.

[MB]

This just in.... the NFL has cancelled all week 7 and week 15 games for the 2008 season.


Bye Japan Pro and the Keystone Pro!

There seems to be no criteria for promoting a show.  Whoever thinks they can do it only needs to pony up a little cash and go for it.  The IFBB "pro league" needs to start running it's own shows. 

[240 is Back]

the promoters are required by ifbb rules to pony up $50k sanction fee, 6 months before the show, correct?

I wonder if they have $150k sitting in a bank somewhere from the promoters of the shows who cancelled late.

Or, is this rule not enforced for certain promoters?

[crg]

At last years colarado show when the cameras showed the audience seats the place was   empty

[emn1964]

the promoters are required by ifbb rules to pony up $50k sanction fee, 6 months before the show, correct?

I wonder if they have $150k sitting in a bank somewhere from the promoters of the shows who cancelled late.

Or, is this rule not enforced for certain promoters?

Are you saying that the IFBB arbitrairily picks and chooses which of its rules to enforce?

[240 is Back]

Are you saying that the IFBB arbitrairily picks and chooses which of its rules to enforce?

No, I'm asking if that is the case.  Does anyone know?  Bob, it was you who brought the 180-day pre-pay of the $50k number up, about 2 years back.  Is this rule still in effect, and are there any exceptions made, and if so, why?

[gordiano]

MusclePhone is the I Ching of the bodybuilding world!




"In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.  Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.

And God said, "Let there be MusclePhone," and God saw that it was good."

                                                                                                      -Genesis 1

LOL

[Chick]

the promoters are required by ifbb rules to pony up $50k sanction fee, 6 months before the show, correct?

I wonder if they have $150k sitting in a bank somewhere from the promoters of the shows who cancelled late.

Or, is this rule not enforced for certain promoters?

No, that's not correct. Not sure where you came up with the $50K figure....no pro shows have a sanction fee of $50K.

THe show shoeld never have been put on the schedule to begin with....

The rules state that the sanction fee be paid and the prize money be put into escrow before the show takes place...not sure of the time frame, but I'm sure it's not 6 months....

That said, no contracts have been signed to do the show from athletes, only in the event the show was canceled from the 6 week point in to the show, would the athletes that contracted to do the show, be eligable for any compensation from the sanction fee paid.

[Rearden Metal]

If anything they should do more beach shows in the summer. Have them somewhere indoors and small for prejudiging and then have them outside just after dark for the finals.

This is actually a really good idea.