WHAT IS REQUIRED TO RESTORE 'CREDIBILITY' TO PRO BODYBUILDING?

[timfogarty]

i dont believe that there's such a thing as gay for pay...either you are or you're not.  how can you enforce a restiction on income like a G4P rule. as long as you pay taxes on income what's illegal?

G4P means prostitution.   prostitution is illegal in most places.

[timfogarty]

The question still remains; Should we as fans, allow the sport to further spiral out of control?

We, as fans, already have a say.  We buy tickets to contests or not.  We buy the magazines or not.  Athletes have a say too.  They choose what contests to enter.

If you don't like the way the IFBB or the NPC is doing things, go attend or enter a NABBA or WNBF or any other orgs events.

[knny187]

Re: WHAT IS REQUIRED TO RESTORE 'CREDIBILITY' TO PRO BODYBUILDING?

[Camel Jockey]

Shari has been great for the sport. You'd all kill to look like him. The fact he is Persian seems to weigh against him with the ignorant racists.I also gather that Shari is not impressed with 'monster81' physique at all.

Nobody likes Ayatollah Tamali Kohmeni, fucking idiot. He's a drugged up moron with horrible genetics.

Ahmad Haider is loads better than him and is the type of physique the IFBB ought to promote.

[BayGBM]

dude, you're taking it way too seriously.  It's been a freakshow since day 1.  Enjoy it.  Nobody wants to restore credibility to the bearded lady at the circus.  People don't want to see average bodybuilders at shows, they want to see monsters.  If average physiques sold better, their marketing dept would tell them, and they'd change cover strategies.

Live and let live, brother!

Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner.

If you don't like it stop patronizing the circus.  There are a million other ways to spend your time.

[Meltdown]

It won't be long until someone gets a kick in the arse for allowing this blatant Drug use and Abuse in BB and when it crumbles man will it crumble.Pro no longer No Drugs No Pro = No IFBB SCAM.

[GoneAway]

We, as fans, already have a say.  We buy tickets to contests or not.  We buy the magazines or not.  Athletes have a say too.  They choose what contests to enter.

If you don't like the way the IFBB or the NPC is doing things, go attend or enter a NABBA or WNBF or any other orgs events.

if we stop buying into the ifbb, there's no guarantee they'll know the reason y. it's just a bad day for business to them and would probably = less shows.

let's face it, as fans we like to think we know how a bbing show should be judged and how a bber should look, but to just place guys with a slightly protruding waistline, but everything else intact, lower than a guy who isnt in the best shape, but has a twim waistline, is absurd. i don't like guts onstage, but that's the reality of it, as not everyone is in the exact same shape on the day of the show.

It won't be long until someone gets a kick in the arse for allowing this blatant Drug use and Abuse in BB and when it crumbles man will it crumble.Pro no longer No Drugs No Pro = No IFBB SCAM.[/b]

Fixed.

[gh15]

very simple

dex should be this coming year champ,,

v taper should be prefered over blocky squary physiqe

hormones should be less controled in america as a complete seperation from natcotics (we are working on this vote mccain if you want to help)

stop dealing with china and those communitsts

put money into national shows when hormones are less controlled and amendment made (guys who compete nationaly and place 1-10 should be able to win money even if it is 1 2 and 3 k

completely cancel female bodybuilding and only allow female figure and fitness

majority of the judges should be compettive bodybuilders themselves and not promoters

the audience should have the ability to decide whos the winner if it is very close within 10 points,,who ever the audience choses should get 10 points deducted and win the whole show

dont let any bodybuilder with felonies compete EVER,,if he was not smart enough he should not be on stage and especially after hormones are less controlled ,,this it will be a must because then it will be felony as a  result of real crime

lastly and this is very important ,,start pushing bodybuilders from around the world the way it used to be in the 60-70 when arnold and sergio competed,,the reasson is the moment a sport is isolated to one main continent it becomes a cult ,,our sport never stopped being a cult because america took a sole approach insted of integrading many diff countries under the IFBB and promoting their guys same way american
guys promoted,,that means money will have to be invested more out side america not only in america

what i wrote above will bring bodybuilding back to 1979 ,,from there on its up to you youngsters the ones who are 20 today ,,you  will have the choice again wetrher to abuse hormones and narcotics or take it the best you can by the sole use of aas,,credibility will be restored though

[The.Giant]

Re: WHAT IS REQUIRED TO RESTORE 'CREDIBILITY' TO PRO BODYBUILDING?

Wow, that big tittied guy is fucking the hell out of that chick.

[New Hank Wood]

The sport has now become to deeply embedded within the gay community....Yes, it has become all to anal.

The sport needs to explore new options. 

A clear and defined purpose must be found if this sport is to move beyond its 'homo-status'.

A whole new restructuring must be initiated. 

The 'powers that be' have enjoyed a monopolising of the sport for too long.  They have succumbed to the  corruptive elements and have allowed the gay-collective to become 'too involved' within the decision making process.

Bottom line, it sickens me to think that Pro Bodybuilding of today, is now just a euphemism for 'gay-pride'...enough is enough!

[bigdumbbell]

more bullshit, until you post a picture you're 128 pounds at 6'2".

SF whats to rub against your picture stop baiting him      lol

[timfogarty]

The sport has now become to deeply embedded within the gay community....Yes, it has become all to anal.
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They have succumbed to the  corruptive elements and have allowed the gay-collective to become 'too involved' within the decision making process.
[...]
Bottom line, it sickens me to think that Pro Bodybuilding of today, is now just a euphemism for 'gay-pride'

just because you say it doesn't make it true.  you've provided no evidence to any of your claims.

[New Hank Wood]

I have made many claims regarding the 'gayness' of Pro Bodybuilding.  And yes, i will continue to allege that the sport has been 'taken over' by the gay-collective.

Look, the evidence is purely anecdotal.  I cannot prove this conspiracy!  I cannot provide evidence that the judging committee's are deeply embedded in corruption.  I also cannot  prove that there is rampant drug abuse and widespread dealing.


Bottom line, audiences of men who cheer  'oiled-up men in thongs' does suggest a certain gayness. 

And also, magazines that post pictures of near-naked men in 'unbuttoned daisy dukes' could be considered homo-pornography.

Look the evidence is everywhere, just open your eyes. 

Fans must stop living in this 'gay denial'.

[Meltdown]

Hank when you have history like Arnold doing fag shots in Blue Boy and crap like that what would you expect 40 years later.This sport is FUKED.No Money No Respect No Drug Tests = A lot of Money for the IFBB.

[New Hank Wood]

The sport does have a 'long history' of pandering to the homosexual community. 

Yes, even the 'great man' Arnold was known to mow the lawns of 'Pro Bodybuilding's- industry leader'.

Arnold would strip to his underwear and then rove around the grassy expanses pushing a lawn mower. 

The 'industry leader' loved to watch a sweaty and near-naked Arnold!

Yes, Arnold knew what side his bread was buttered on!

In summary, the gayness of Pro Bodybuilding is not a 'new phenomena'.

[Meltdown]

Hank do they have the same problem in GOLF???How many other sports have such a Gay influence and gay activities to pay the bills.Wow how proud must you be to pull your dick out and make more money than you get for competing.

[New Hank Wood]

There is a homosexual element attached to many sports..

Look, many Pro footballers , talk about the excitement of being with their male team mates.  They love showering together, slapping and grabbing butts, hugging and just generally getting naked together!

Much gayness in sport. However, Pro Bodybuilding would have to be the gayest though.

[Meltdown]

Sick Fuks.

[New Hank Wood]

Pro Bodybuilding has been 'forever shunned' by the mainstream.  Legitimate media outlet's wont go near this sordid and corrupt industry; and for good reason.

Pro Bodybuilding enjoys the unfortunate tag of 'homo erotic male pageant'.  It is a truly  ugly sport. 

The fanbase consists primarily of 'dysfunctional-latent-homosexual-types' who fantasise about emulating their roided-heroes.

Yes, there is nothing more gross and disturbing.

[HTexan]

Look, many Pro footballers , talk about the excitement of being with their male team mates.  They love showering together, slapping and grabbing butts, hugging and just generally getting naked together!

you just made that shit up, fruity. 

[New Hank Wood]

Males can feel threatened when their sexuality is brought into question.  Yes, many team-sports have their 'basis' in homo-erotica.

For many male-sport's lovers, it is just easier to live in denial; as confrontation can be disturbing and destabilising!

Bottom line, if you play a team sport and don't mind 'getting naked, showering, hugging and butt slapping men', then i repeat: ''You are just another latent-homosexual-living-in-denial!''

[HTexan]

Males can feel threatened when their sexuality is brought into question.  Yes, many team-sports have their 'basis' in homo-erotica.

For many male-sport's lovers, it is just easier to live in denial; as confrontation can be disturbing and destabilising!

Bottom line, if you play a team sport and don't mind 'getting naked, showering, hugging and butt slapping men', then i repeat: ''You are just another latent-homosexual-living-in-denial!''

Most team sports players don't mine be naked around other men because their not gay. You see gay acts everywhere because you are gay.

[Earl1972]

Most team sports players don't mine be naked around other men because their not gay. You see gay acts everywhere because you are gay.

exactly

bay is the only one that can admit to being gay

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[Howard]

the sport is in transition.  this is not unusual when one or two people who so dominate the business leave the scene.   There was a big transition from the Hoffman era to the Weider era.  Now we are transitioning into what ever is after the Weider era.

The AAU didn't survive the transition, although it took another 20 years for it to disappear from bodybuilding all together.   And there is no guarantee that the IFBB will survive this transition.

The IFBB was really a one man business.   When that person leaves the scene a company often flounders.  It doesn't help that shortly before Ben's retirement they chased away the one person who was best qualified to help the company through the transition.

Pro bodybuilding is hurting.  Attendance is down.  The number of contests are down.  Perhaps worse is that the powers that be have lost control over how bodybuilding is presented.    Ben had control of the IFBB and Joe had control over the magazines.   They had complete control on how the fans saw the sport.  Now the magazines are dying and no one has control over the internet.   

The biggest mistake the current management of the IFBB has made is in their dealing with the internet.

You make some good pts on the history of the main folks in the sport here TJ. However, the ticket sales are up ( record # at the arnold this yr) . The line up of shows is decent and the Tampa show is new entry on the pro show scene. I am NOT pleased with the overall extreme drugged freak look, but , it is, what it is.
Howard

[Meltdown]

Are you saying Guys that pose naked for fags to jerk off to aren't gay and when Derek has an erection from old schmoes touching him he is not gay???If ya cock grows from men touching you your Fukin GAY.