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Lord Humungous

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Re: Is Bob correct about Mike Mentzer?
« Reply #50 on: April 13, 2008, 03:46:24 PM »
Well, lets face it Bob will never be remembered in BBing history quite as well as Mike was.
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Re: Is Bob correct about Mike Mentzer?
« Reply #51 on: April 13, 2008, 03:49:39 PM »
Bob Chick ripping Mike Mentzer is like Winger or Poison trashing the Rolling Stones or AC/DC.     ;D

         
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Re: Is Bob correct about Mike Mentzer?
« Reply #52 on: April 13, 2008, 03:56:23 PM »
Quote from: SirTraps on April 13, 2008, 03:49:39 PM
Bob Chick ripping Mike Mentzer is like Winger or Poison trashing the Rolling Stones or AC/DC.     ;D

         

So, I take it you believe Mentzer was better than Arnold?
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Re: Is Bob correct about Mike Mentzer?
« Reply #53 on: April 13, 2008, 04:00:01 PM »
Quote from: Chick on April 13, 2008, 03:56:23 PM
So, I take it you believe Mentzer was better than Arnold?

Mentzer was a Golden Age Dellusionite and a quiter.
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Re: Is Bob correct about Mike Mentzer?
« Reply #54 on: April 13, 2008, 04:33:25 PM »
Quote from: Chick on April 13, 2008, 03:56:23 PM
So, I take it you believe Mentzer was better than Arnold?


Not bad for a guy with child bearing hips & a large ass.

There's another pro I can think of (with child bearing hips & large ass) that never did this good.

          Mike Mentzer
1971 Mr. America - AAU, 10th
1971 Teen Mr America - AAU, 2nd
1975 Mr. America - IFBB, Medium, 3rd
1975 Mr. USA - ABBA, Medium, 2nd
1976 Mr. America - IFBB, Overall Winner
1976 Mr. America - IFBB, Medium, 1st
1976 Mr. Universe - IFBB, MiddleWeight, 2nd
1977 North American Championships - IFBB, Overall Winner
1977 North American Championships - IFBB, MiddleWeight, 1st
1977 Mr. Universe - IFBB, HeavyWeight, 2nd
1978 USA vs the World - IFBB, HeavyWeight, 1st
1978 World Amateur Championships - IFBB, HeavyWeight, 1st
1979 Canada Pro Cup - IFBB, 2nd
1979 Florida Pro Invitational - IFBB, 1st
1979 Night of Champions - IFBB, 3rd
1979 Mr. Olympia - IFBB, Heavyweight (over 200 pounds) 1st, Overall 2nd
1979 Pittsburgh Pro Invitational - IFBB, 2nd
1979 Southern Pro Cup - IFBB, 1st
1980 Mr. Olympia - IFBB, 5th
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Re: Is Bob correct about Mike Mentzer?
« Reply #55 on: April 13, 2008, 05:37:38 PM »
Quote from: Chick on April 13, 2008, 11:48:03 AM
Thanks for the review...and the opinions of Bob Kennedy and Chris Lund.

The original comment was to address the question of whether or not Mike was better than Arnold....thats where the quote and answer from me came from.

It's unny how some of these guys get better after death, or years after retirement....I've never questioned the fact that Mentzer was a damn good bodybuilder...but lets not get crazy here...
I think a good part of the Mentzer mystique and legend was his unique form of "Heavy Duty" philosphy/ training.
Most bodybuilder seemd to do the same benches, squats, flys, etc back then, even if some did have different regimes. Menzter's physique was tangible proof that one need not do 2-3 hrs per day in the gym , as Arnold did.
He had a world class physique matched with some unique bodybuilding philosophy.This made him a bodybuilding personality. In all honesty, Bob, I feel we could use some unique thinkers/personalities  in the pro ranks today.
I remember seeing him , live on TV in the Mr Universe vs Jusup Wilcox held in Acupulco, Mexico (late 70's).
I was very impressed with his rugged, thick physique. I feel he should have won the Olympia in 1980, but that is another story.
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Re: Is Bob correct about Mike Mentzer?
« Reply #56 on: April 13, 2008, 05:39:22 PM »
Quote from: SirTraps on April 13, 2008, 03:49:39 PM
Bob Chick ripping Mike Mentzer is like Winger or Poison trashing the Rolling Stones or AC/DC.     ;D

         

if that's the case what does it mean when an internet nobody troll like yourself rips any pro?

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Re: Is Bob correct about Mike Mentzer?
« Reply #57 on: April 13, 2008, 05:50:32 PM »
Great physique in a time where doping options where limited. and 220 at 5'7 in comp. shape is pretty hefty.





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Re: Is Bob correct about Mike Mentzer?
« Reply #58 on: April 13, 2008, 05:51:40 PM »
PS - Arnold had wide hips as well...which is why he often did side twisting poses. He had underdeveloped glutes (and hams) Is that any better than a "big ass" on MM? I'd say it's worse.

Oh and I am a big Arnold fan :)

Can't we just celebrate the legends rather than fight :)
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Re: Is Bob correct about Mike Mentzer?
« Reply #59 on: April 13, 2008, 05:54:14 PM »
I've actually thought about naming my dog "Mentzer".  No I am not a HIT jedi...but Mentzer was quite the character. good idea no?
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Re: Is Bob correct about Mike Mentzer?
« Reply #60 on: April 13, 2008, 06:02:21 PM »
Quote from: Determinator on April 13, 2008, 05:27:54 AM
On last weeks probodybuilding weekly, Bob inferred that Mike Mentzer was very overrated and possessed "child bearing hips, no chest and a big ass." Is Bob correct in his evaluation of the Mentzer physique?


Arnold has the breasts of a lactating midwife.

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Re: Is Bob correct about Mike Mentzer?
« Reply #61 on: April 13, 2008, 06:07:08 PM »
Mike should have stuck to medicine.
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Re: Is Bob correct about Mike Mentzer?
« Reply #62 on: April 13, 2008, 07:31:08 PM »
Quote from: Chick on April 13, 2008, 08:48:23 AM
Shoulders weren't narrow...hips were wide.

Not as wide as Arnolds
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Re: Is Bob correct about Mike Mentzer?
« Reply #63 on: April 13, 2008, 07:35:24 PM »
fuck bob. mike won more pro shows
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Re: Is Bob correct about Mike Mentzer?
« Reply #64 on: April 13, 2008, 07:44:35 PM »
Comparing Bob Chick to Mike Mentzer is crazy. Bob does not hold a candle to Mike's build.
    Oh and, Bob, Arnold was way better then Mentzer.......it's ok that you will never be as good as either of them were. Get over it. ;D
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Re: Is Bob correct about Mike Mentzer?
« Reply #65 on: April 13, 2008, 07:44:51 PM »
A lack of quad sweep did not help Mentzer's shape.  But back in that era that was typical.
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Re: Is Bob correct about Mike Mentzer?
« Reply #66 on: April 13, 2008, 07:55:36 PM »
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Re: Is Bob correct about Mike Mentzer?
« Reply #67 on: April 13, 2008, 07:56:54 PM »
Quote from: Eric2 on April 13, 2008, 07:44:35 PM
Comparing Bob Chick to Mike Mentzer is crazy. Bob does not hold a candle to Mike's build.
    Oh and, Bob, Arnold was way better then Mentzer.......it's ok that you will never be as good as either of them were. Get over it. ;D

Great....now try and stay with the topic...
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Re: Is Bob correct about Mike Mentzer?
« Reply #68 on: April 13, 2008, 07:59:15 PM »
If the topic is "Mike Mentzer makes Bob Chick look like a 5 pound bag full of 10 pounds of crap" then I am on pace.
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Re: Is Bob correct about Mike Mentzer?
« Reply #69 on: April 13, 2008, 07:59:53 PM »
Mike will be remembered for stealing the idea of H.I.T and claiming it as his own work.

Mike was a pseudo intellectual who plagiarised the work of Ayn Rand.

By his own admission, Mike was a hopeless user of amphetamines, steroids, alcohol and nicotine.

He should never be considered as a role model to the sport.
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Re: Is Bob correct about Mike Mentzer?
« Reply #70 on: April 13, 2008, 08:03:15 PM »
Quote from: Eric2 on April 13, 2008, 07:59:15 PM
If the topic is "Mike Mentzer makes Bob Chick look like a 5 pound bag full of 10 pounds of crap" then I am on pace.

It's not....no go to bed, school starts early tomorrow
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Re: Is Bob correct about Mike Mentzer?
« Reply #71 on: April 13, 2008, 10:23:02 PM »
mentzer competed in a era where guys got up on stage at around 6% bodyfat...And in alot of cases including Arnold's, the ass is the last to go and usually takes get under 5%...On top of that, Mike's really wasn't that wide...Add in the fact that he had basically no quad sweep and you get the fat ass, wide hips to back width look...l

When it comes to Chick, Chick has some of the best quad sweep ever to step on stage...Add in the fact that Chick was as wide as a house, and you can not compare the two...

When it comes to Mike and Arnold though, they basically look like they have never trained Hamstrings in there life...
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Re: Is Bob correct about Mike Mentzer?
« Reply #72 on: April 13, 2008, 10:26:40 PM »
Quote from: TechnoViking on April 13, 2008, 10:23:02 PM
When it comes to Chick, Chick has some of the best quad sweep ever to step on stage...Add in the fact that Chick was as wide as a house, and you can not compare the two...

true, you can't compare the two, but can make observations.

Chick, as with Mike, had a proportionately big ass. there are pics to prove this, as with Mike.

Chick, like Mike, had wide hips, but his waist was wider than Mike, which made his hips look more proportionate to his waistline.
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Re: Is Bob correct about Mike Mentzer?
« Reply #73 on: April 13, 2008, 10:27:17 PM »
Quote from: knny187 on April 13, 2008, 04:33:25 PM

Not bad for a guy with child bearing hips & a large ass.



Maybe something in Chick's life has turned him off to child bearing hips & large asses & he sees them everywhere these days?
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Re: Is Bob correct about Mike Mentzer?
« Reply #74 on: April 13, 2008, 10:43:10 PM »
Quote from: Chick on April 13, 2008, 08:43:11 AM
giddyup...


So Bob you're implying that when you look at Mike's ass you'd like to go for a ride?  Gayer than all of the gayer-than's that BSB has ever come up with.
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