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Steyn: Michelle Obama Like Kim Jong-Il
« on: April 14, 2008, 08:36:22 AM »
Taking the gloves off:

Steyn: Michelle Obama Like Kim Jong-Il

Sunday, April 13, 2008 7:25 PM
 
Senator Barack Obama's wife Michelle is "Kim Jong-Il dressed up with a bit of Oprah Winfrey dressing," according to Mark Steyn, probably the most widely read columnist in North America.

Appearing on CNN Headline News Glenn Beck show on April 10 Steyn also described the Illinois senator's wife as "a conventional university socialist," according to a shocked Media Matters - the ultra-leftist self-proclaimed media watchdog.

Added host Glenn Beck "Her language is riddled with socialism," while opining that with both Obamas "here's a socialist agenda there for America."

On the April 10 edition of CNN Headline News' Glenn Beck show, author and columnist Mark Steyn said of Michelle Obama: "[T]his is [North Korean Communist dictator] Kim Jong-Il dressed up with a bit of Oprah Winfrey dressing." Steyn also called Obama "a conventional university socialist." During the segment, host Glenn Beck said of Mrs. Obama, "Her language is riddled with socialism," and said of the Obamas, "[T]here's a socialist agenda there for America."

According to a transcript of the show, Beck said "Now, I got to move from racism to Marxism, and Obama is still in the center of it. For months I've been telling you, Barack Obama, and more his wife than Barack -- I mean, at least looking at her language -- I believe there's a socialist agenda there for America. And Michelle ain't helping him any. She's adding fuel to the fire. Remember, Michelle is a campaign surrogate for her husband. So he can't be everywhere, so he sends her out to speak for him."

He quoted Michelle as telling some North Carolina voters as saying "The truth is, most Americans don't want much. Folks don't want the whole pie.Most Americans feel blessed to thrive just a little bit. But that's out of reach for them." The truth is, in order to get things like universal health care and revamped education system, then someone is going to have to give up a piece of their pie so someone else can have more."

Said Beck "Well, hello and welcome back, Karl Marx. A redistribution of pie doesn't make me feel any better. Thanks, but no thanks, Michelle. When it comes to pie, or money, I'll take all I can get. I want all my pie. I should be able to keep my pie. And you know what? I want you to have a huge piece of pie, as well. Have the whole thing. It's not because I'm -- I'm selfish, I'm not. Unlike the Obamas, I happen to give away more than 1 percent of my income to charity.

"The bottom line is this: success and money -- it's not finite. This is America. That's not a zero-sum game. There's as much as you feel like working for it. You know, you've got to -- you got to look at money and success as the ocean. It doesn't hurt the ocean to back a dump truck up to it and take a bunch of water out of it. There's more. Stand in line, go get it. Let's stop thinking about pieces of pie, and remember that if you wanted to look at it as pie, this is America. We're a freaking bakery. Bake more. Make as many pies as you want."

Beck noted that Michelle's language is "riddled with socialism."

Steyn agreed, saying "Yeah, I think she's a conventional university socialist. And you're right, I give enough of my pie to the federal government, and they waste most of that pie. So, when she's talking about universal health care and revamping and reforming education, by any reasonable measure, American education is overfunded.

Said Beck "Let me give you this. I'm going to -- you just tell me what we're missing here in Michelle Obama's language. Listen to this. Quote, this is from the UCLA speech she gave, 'And Barack Obama will require you to work. He is going to demand that you shed your cynicism. Put down your division, that you come out of your isolation, that you move out of your comfort zones, that you push yourselves to be better and that you engage. Barack will never allow you to go back to your lives as usual, uninvolved and uninformed.'

Said Steyn "Yes, exactly -- soft, fluffy totalitarianism. The right to be uninvolved, the right to be left alone is one of the most precious rights in a constitutional republic. And if she wants me to shed my cynicism, she's going to have to prize it from my cold, dead, cynical fingers. This is not -- this is Kim Jong-Il dressed up with a bit of Oprah Winfrey dressing. It's unbecoming of an American presidential candidate."

Beck said he wished "these candidates would go back and read the words of the founding fathers. You have a right to fail. You have a right to starve to death -- the government is not the person to come in and tell you how to live your life. If you want to fail -- there are a lot of people that, you know, hold themselves up in the woods in a cabin, like, 'I'm gonna sit here and eat my tin can.' That's exactly what you have a right to do in America."

Steyn answered "Yeah, and that is the most precious right -- and I wouldn't mind if she was saying, we need 300 million self-reliant, engaged citizens out there. But she just wants 300 million cheerleaders, for a messianic president. Sorry, count me out."
 
http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/steyn_obama_jong_il/2008/04/13/87613.html

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Re: Steyn: Michelle Obama Like Kim Jong-Il
« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2008, 03:15:17 PM »
So the thrust of that column is basically don't vote for Obama, because the columnist doesn't like his wife?

gotcha.
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Re: Steyn: Michelle Obama Like Kim Jong-Il
« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2008, 03:18:41 PM »
hahaha this election is getting UGLY!!!! lol

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Re: Steyn: Michelle Obama Like Kim Jong-Il
« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2008, 03:37:24 PM »
Her speeches and ideas, I'm sure, are reviewed by Barrack and his campaign officials.  Its likely their vision and what they say in public is very similar jag.

This is what worries me about barrack, it sounds nice but his ideas are quite socialistic and that is not what our constitution is founded upon.  Some regulation and federal oversight is reasonable & necessary but what Barrack proposes goes too far in the socialist direction. 

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Re: Steyn: Michelle Obama Like Kim Jong-Il
« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2008, 03:41:20 PM »
Her speeches and ideas, I'm sure, are reviewed by Barrack and his campaign officials.  Its likely their vision and what they say in public is very similar jag.

This is what worries me about barrack, it sounds nice but his ideas are quite socialistic and that is not what our constitution is founded upon.  Some regulation and federal oversight is reasonable & necessary but what Barrack proposes goes too far in the socialist direction. 

For the sake of argument, let us assume that what you say is true.

There is far greater danger for the republic to maintain another 4 years of the bush doctrine because that goes much to far in the direction of fascist totalitarian dictatorship. you need a strong push to the left to balance out the insanity that has gripped the nation for the past 8 years.
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Re: Steyn: Michelle Obama Like Kim Jong-Il
« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2008, 03:07:13 PM »
For the sake of argument, let us assume that what you say is true.

There is far greater danger for the republic to maintain another 4 years of the bush doctrine because that goes much to far in the direction of fascist totalitarian dictatorship. you need a strong push to the left to balance out the insanity that has gripped the nation for the past 8 years.

Kim Jong Il: I'm so Ronery / So ronery / So ronery and sadry arone / There's no one / Just me onry / Sitting on my rittle throne / I work very hard to be number one guy / but, stiwr there's no one to right up my rife / Seems rike no one takes me serirousry / And so, I'm ronery / A rittle ronery / Poor rittle me / There's no one I can rerate to / Feewr rike a biwd in a cage / It's kinda siwry / but, not reawry / because, it's fiwring my body with rage / I'm the smartest, most crever, most physicawry fit / but, none of the women seem to give a shit / Maybe someday, they'wr awr notice me / And untiwr then, I'wr be ronery / Yeah, a rittle ronery / Poor rittle me...

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Re: Steyn: Michelle Obama Like Kim Jong-Il
« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2008, 04:37:20 PM »
Grow up!  ::)  ...and then they wonder how they get the leaders they get in office.  ::)
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Re: Steyn: Michelle Obama Like Kim Jong-Il
« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2008, 07:36:36 PM »
The more I hear her talk the more I like her

I think alot of other people feel the same way

Oh yeah - I like her husband too. Especially when he says stuff like this:

What I would want to do is to have my Justice Department and my Attorney General immediately review the information that's already there and to find out are there inquiries that need to be pursued. I can't prejudge that because we don't have access to all the material right now. I think that you are right, if crimes have been committed, they should be investigated. You're also right that I would not want my first term consumed by what was perceived on the part of Republicans as a partisan witch hunt because I think we've got too many problems we've got to solve.

So this is an area where I would want to exercise judgment -- I would want to find out directly from my Attorney General -- having pursued, having looked at what's out there right now -- are there possibilities of genuine crimes as opposed to really bad policies. And I think it's important-- one of the things we've got to figure out in our political culture generally is distinguishing betyween really dumb policies and policies that rise to the level of criminal activity. You know, I often get questions about impeachment at town hall meetings and I've said that is not something I think would be fruitful to pursue because I think that impeachment is something that should be reserved for exceptional circumstances. Now, if I found out that there were high officials who knowingly, consciously broke existing laws, engaged in coverups of those crimes with knowledge forefront, then I think a basic principle of our Constitution is nobody above the law -- and I think that's roughly how I would look at it.

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/attytood/Barack_on_torture.html

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Re: Steyn: Michelle Obama Like Kim Jong-Il
« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2008, 07:53:10 PM »
Obama supported the Patriot Act, an article that is completly unconstitutional and now he's saying he's gonna get the attorney general to check  out if the current administration did anything worth pursuing in a court of law?   ::)

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Re: Steyn: Michelle Obama Like Kim Jong-Il
« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2008, 07:57:24 PM »
Obama supported the Patriot Act, an article that is completly unconstitutional and now he's saying he's gonna get the attorney general to check  out if the current administration did anything worth pursuing in a court of law?   ::)

yeah well - I can't really defend him there other than to say he didn't actually break any laws by supporting it.

I wonder if he even read the damn thing (of if anyone did)

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Re: Steyn: Michelle Obama Like Kim Jong-Il
« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2008, 08:14:04 PM »


I wonder if he even read the damn thing (of if anyone did)

Thats makes me feel better.  ;)

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Re: Steyn: Michelle Obama Like Kim Jong-Il
« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2008, 08:15:26 PM »
Kim Jung Il has a cool haircut and he is master of film... ;D
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Re: Steyn: Michelle Obama Like Kim Jong-Il
« Reply #12 on: April 16, 2008, 08:35:00 PM »
Thats makes me feel better.  ;)

It's kind of mind boggling to think that they didn't even have time to read the thing before they voted on it.

I can't believe this is how our government works.  It takes so f'ng long to get anyting done when the govt is involved but yet they can produce legislation and bring it to a vote so quickly that no one has time to read the damn thing and mull it over a bit

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Re: Steyn: Michelle Obama Like Kim Jong-Il
« Reply #13 on: April 18, 2008, 01:13:53 PM »

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Re: Steyn: Michelle Obama Like Kim Jong-Il
« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2008, 04:01:06 PM »
Obama supported the Patriot Act, an article that is completly unconstitutional and now he's saying he's gonna get the attorney general to check  out if the current administration did anything worth pursuing in a court of law?   ::)

the patriot act was passed without debate.

why?

because the head dems in charge of debating it received anthrax.
because the building where congress was to debate was closed due to anthrax.

and it didn't receive media scrutiny.

why?

because the media faces all received anthrax too.

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Re: Steyn: Michelle Obama Like Kim Jong-Il
« Reply #15 on: April 18, 2008, 04:47:11 PM »
She was on the Colbert report.. Came of as a very intelligent woman, and very likeable, sort of like her husband.

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Re: Steyn: Michelle Obama Like Kim Jong-Il
« Reply #16 on: April 18, 2008, 06:04:40 PM »
the patriot act was passed without debate.

why?

because the head dems in charge of debating it received anthrax.
because the building where congress was to debate was closed due to anthrax.

and it didn't receive media scrutiny.

why?

because the media faces all received anthrax too.

Are you suggesting he didn't support it but couldn't vocalize it because of the anthrax scare?

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Re: Steyn: Michelle Obama Like Kim Jong-Il
« Reply #17 on: April 18, 2008, 06:16:12 PM »
Are you suggesting he didn't support it but couldn't vocalize it because of the anthrax scare?

LOL... Obama wasn't even in the senate when the patriot act was passed.  I don't know if he voted on the renewal (pt. 2)    He did have the balls to publicly stand against the war that was wildly popular at the time.


If given proper and normal debate, the pat act would never have passed.  instead, everyone was riled up about checking their mail, congress was evacuated, and it had to be rushed thru - voted on before they could read it.


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Re: Steyn: Michelle Obama Like Kim Jong-Il
« Reply #18 on: April 18, 2008, 06:20:12 PM »
LOL... Obama wasn't even in the senate when the patriot act was passed.  I don't know if he voted on the renewal (pt. 2)    He did have the balls to publicly stand against the war that was wildly popular at the time.


If given proper and normal debate, the pat act would never have passed.  instead, everyone was riled up about checking their mail, congress was evacuated, and it had to be rushed thru - voted on before they could read it.



I said he supported it, as in he never publicly criticized it. I don't believe I ever mentioned that he voted for it.

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Re: Steyn: Michelle Obama Like Kim Jong-Il
« Reply #19 on: April 18, 2008, 06:29:13 PM »
I said he supported it, as in he never publicly criticized it. I don't believe I ever mentioned that he voted for it.

don't get all defensive, mutt.

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Re: Steyn: Michelle Obama Like Kim Jong-Il
« Reply #20 on: April 18, 2008, 06:30:08 PM »
don't get all defensive, mutt.

man, are your balls chaffed tonight or what?

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Re: Steyn: Michelle Obama Like Kim Jong-Il
« Reply #21 on: April 18, 2008, 06:33:32 PM »
man, are your balls chaffed tonight or what?

Quit thinking about my balls creep.

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Re: Steyn: Michelle Obama Like Kim Jong-Il
« Reply #22 on: April 18, 2008, 06:35:01 PM »
Quit thinking about my balls creep.

Lame.