Does Obama favor an all-out ban on handguns?

[Decker]

I feel as u do....but let me play devils advocate. The guns I own can't be used for hunting. They are for home defense etc but their purpose is to kill another human being. A lawyer could not even make the argument that they can be used to wound as .45 will fuck ur day up...along with a shotgun with buck/slug/buck/slug/slug loaded into it. So unlike a car which is ment at transportation, these guns are ment to kill. I think the law needs to be defined and then the issue dropped. I think suing is ridiculous also but this is the rational that has been used to bring suits.

Maybe the purpose you own your guns for is not home protection but rather collecting.

Guns are inherently dangerous yet, in most cases, legal to own.  That's an interesting point you bring up.

Have a great weekend.  I'm off to dinner with the wife.

[headhuntersix]

He's prepared by his handlers..u have no clue dude do u. He has themes and messages and its painfully obvious when he strays from them.  I'll call out his patriotism anytime I damm well want. As a vet i have that right. He hasn't shown me he loves this country. He and his nitwit wife prove time and again that they haveno clue abou this place.

Answer me this:

when Ann Coulter is shouted down on college campuses..whos' party do they belong to
who tries to limit or take away guns
those that protest Marine recruiters...what party
those that tried to blow up the Pentagon..what party
those that rioted in 1968..what party
who was against equal rights
against prayer
for raising taxes


the list is endless.  I'm sure u'll comeback with some repub list..go ahead I'm not a Republican. Obama is a lightweight and a socialist and not fit to be run this country.

[headhuntersix]

Maybe the purpose you own your guns for is not home protection but rather collecting.

Guns are inherently dangerous yet, in most cases, legal to own.  That's an interesting point you bring up.

Have a great weekend.  I'm off to dinner with the wife.

U too..be safe.

[240 is Back]

Obama is horrible without notes or a telepromter.

I think this isn't true.  I'm not voting for him, but I think he's the best speaker in the race by a mile.

McCain is a dork.  It's true.  Pity laughs when he makes jokes.

[www.BrinkZone.com]

Will,

Why don't you take your guns and volunteer to fight in the "War on Terror" in Iraq? 
idiot

Strong debating skills. Your parents must be proud....

[Benny B]

I think this isn't true.  I'm not voting for him, but I think he's the best speaker in the race by a mile.

McCain is a dork.  It's true.  Pity laughs when he makes jokes.

Strong debating skills. Your parents must be proud....

Very proud, thanks. 
If I produced a worthless troll-looking charcater like you, who runs around expos like the schmoe that you are...I know I wouldn't be very proud. 

[www.BrinkZone.com]

I think this isn't true.  I'm not voting for him, but I think he's the best speaker in the race by a mile.

McCain is a dork.  It's true.  Pity laughs when he makes jokes.

I agree, Obama is the best speaker of the three by a mile. I don't have to agree with his politics to know that. He has charisma, which is why so many fall for the socialist BS he spews, but you can't say the man lacks charisma. I want to like him in fact, which is what good speakers do: make you like them despite the fact they are not actually saying anything.

[Brixtonbulldog]

Obama speaks ALL THE TIME without prepared text. You are a moron. McCain can't get his facts straight without prepared notes. He is terrible.

Obama is as proud as anyone of America. Who are you to question someone's patriotism? It's right-wing morons who would make me sick to my stomach if I actually allowed you to. You are a walking stereotype.  Take your pseudo patriotism and shove it up your ass.

Even if McCain were dumb as a post and Obamas IQ was 145 I would rather have an idiot with good character and a love for America making decisions than a ultra leftist genius bent on using America to create his next idea of socialist utopia and gov't control.

Obama hates America, the constitution, and individual liberty (unless you're black) but he would never get elected saying that.

So I say I'll stick my patriotism up YOUR ass and pull your head out.

[Dos Equis]

I agree, Obama is the best speaker of the three by a mile. I don't have to agree with his politics to know that. He has charisma, which is why so many fall for the socialist BS he spews, but you can't say the man lacks charisma. I want to like him in fact, which is what good speakers do: make you like them despite the fact they are not actually saying anything.

Spot on.  This is precisely what Obama has done. 

[240 is Back]

Even if McCain were dumb as a post

he was ranked 894 out of 899 students in his class at the naval academy.

[Brixtonbulldog]

he was ranked 894 out of 899 students in his class at the naval academy.

Lol.. great.

You know I never liked him but my original post still stands. 

[240 is Back]

he'd be a good president.  he'll do what the advisers tell him, and he'll be a strong face to the world for the USA.

same with obama, he'd give the US a compassionate face, but much like the young substitute teacher, he'd have to smack the shit out of someone early on get respect, and I'm confident he would - his advisers wouldn't settle for anything less.

And Hilary would be a mixture - think of her as Bill II... it wouldn't be that bad.


Whenever people say "so-and-so will ruin america", they're just being dramatic bitches.  All 3 candidates will do a similar job.  President Gore would have invaded afghanistan just as Bush did.  As far as Iraq? well, that was planned between cheney and the heads of oil firms before 911, so I'm not sure Gore woudl have gone there.

[Brixtonbulldog]

he'd be a good president.  he'll do what the advisers tell him, and he'll be a strong face to the world for the USA.

same with obama, he'd give the US a compassionate face, but much like the young substitute teacher, he'd have to smack the shit out of someone early on get respect, and I'm confident he would - his advisers wouldn't settle for anything less.

And Hilary would be a mixture - think of her as Bill II... it wouldn't be that bad.

Whenever people say "so-and-so will ruin america", they're just being dramatic bitches.  All 3 candidates will do a similar job.  President Gore would have invaded afghanistan just as Bush did.  As far as Iraq? well, that was planned between cheney and the heads of oil firms before 911, so I'm not sure Gore woudl have gone there.

Dramatic my ass.. any candidate pushing us more to the left than we already are has thier part in ruining what we stand for.  You can kiss individual liberty bye bye especially with Obama.

I don't think McCain has great potential for guarding those liberties either but he's the best we can hope for at this point.

[240 is Back]

Dramatic my ass.. any candidate pushing us more to the left than we already are has thier part in ruining what we stand for.  You can kiss individual liberty bye bye especially with Obama.

I don't think McCain has great potential for guarding those liberties either but he's the best we can hope for at this point.

Do you believe the Patriot Act has eroded individual liberties?

[Brixtonbulldog]

Do you believe the Patriot Act has eroded individual liberties?

No. 

I personally feel that the gov't has neither the time nor the resources to spy on Americans simply for more control at this point.  The NSA and CIA are overworked, understaffed bureaucracies as it is.  Although I can see what someone not close to those organizations watching the news everyday might be concerned with.  I only say that it doesn't worry me because my family and friends are or have been in the paid employment of the intelligence community pretty much my whole life.

Even if it did I don't consider it nearly as much of a threat as anti-gun legislation, hate crimes legislation, the police state as evidenced by Ruby Ridge and Waco through corrupt and even bigger bureaucracies such as the IRS and DEA.  I think robbing people of their earned income through higher taxes is even more of a threat.

I know this is just my opinion but I get disgusted when I know politicians are doing as much as possible to rob me of my right to protect me and my family from criminals who would just as soon kill me, rape my wife or girlfriend, and do who knows what to my future children along with taking whatever they want.

[240 is Back]

Do you believe the Patriot Act has eroded individual liberties?

No. 

Okay.

Now, in what ways, based upon his proposals so far (or something he hasn't said, but you believe), do you believe Obama will change things to remove our individual liberties?

[Brixtonbulldog]

Okay.

Now, in what ways, based upon his proposals so far (or something he hasn't said, but you believe), do you believe Obama will change things to remove our individual liberties?

It's his record.  I don't know how much worse it can get to be MORE liberal that Hillary, who is bad enough.  The fact that he probably represents the intentions of most of the black community in this country isn't very reassuring either.  I think he will stomp all over the 2nd amendment.  I think he will raise taxes as much and as often as possible.  I think social programs will be expanded.  I think our military won't get the backing it needs but that's debatable.  And frankly, I feel as if he is just as corrupt as any politician but we just haven't seen that yet.  Basically I feel that the more liberal the candidate the worse the candidate and he might be the most left of anyone who has run for president in my lifetime. 

[Brixtonbulldog]

I also think hate crimes laws, free speech by the definition of the ACLU, and preferential treatment for minorities have a much better chance of getting through with him in office. 

All of which are completely unconstitutional.

[240 is Back]

I'd like to see ONE law he passed which eroded civil liberties.

Can you list one? 

Because honestly, I watch FOX news 4 hours per day, and I see them say this nonstop, but they never cite examples as to what he has done to erode liberties.

[Brixtonbulldog]

I'd like to see ONE law he passed which eroded civil liberties.

Can you list one? 

Because honestly, I watch FOX news 4 hours per day, and I see them say this nonstop, but they never cite examples as to what he has done to erode liberties.

Are you saying you think he won't do those things?  Please..

Ha.. last I heard he accomplished exactly zero as a Senator, heard from both sides.  Didn't he vote "present" on most of the legislation put before him? 

[240 is Back]

Are you saying you think he won't do those things?  Please..

Ha.. last I heard he accomplished exactly zero as a Senator, heard from both sides.  Didn't he vote "present" on most of the legislation put before him? 

So you cannot list anything he's done to erode liberties.
You have no quote of anything that he'll do.
You cannot even tell us why you think he'll do it.

You just kinda know it, becaue he voted 'present' in the senate?


I'm not a huge obama fan, but I have to say your argument about what he'll do lacks any evidence here.

[Hedgehog]

Absolutely, but I don't need to see that to already know he's anti gun rights, anti 2A, and anti self defense. For example, he proposes a total ban on CCW. Moron.

Why does that make him a moron?

Compare gun-owning in USA to any other civilized country.

What are you gonna tell all the girls and boys that had their parents killed by weapon carriers?

That the weapon carriers are gonna serve time? that the weapon carriers are gonna die too?

Unless you can bring down the numbers of gun related murders, I don't see what the fcuk the gun lobby is yapping about.

They need to present an alternative.

Not just their usual " guns don't kill people, people kill people"

Don't be a problem Will Brink.

Be a solution.

[Brixtonbulldog]

So you cannot list anything he's done to erode liberties.
You have no quote of anything that he'll do.
You cannot even tell us why you think he'll do it.

You just kinda know it, becaue he voted 'present' in the senate?

I'm not a huge obama fan, but I have to say your argument about what he'll do lacks any evidence here.

Twisting posts hasn't been below you before I should have known better, I guess.

His opinion and historical position on many issues of rights is all over the internet.  I don't need to deliver it to you.

Of course he HASN'T done much to destroy civil liberties.. HE'S NOT PRESIDENT YET JACK ASS.

His is as liberal as I've ever seen.  These are not secrets for cryin out loud.

[Hedgehog]

Even if McCain were dumb as a post and Obamas IQ was 145 I would rather have an idiot with good character and a love for America making decisions than a ultra leftist genius bent on using America to create his next idea of socialist utopia and gov't control.

Obama hates America, the constitution, and individual liberty (unless you're black) but he would never get elected saying that.

So I say I'll stick my patriotism up YOUR ass and pull your head out.

I rather have an intelligent man than a buffoon leading the most powerful and most important nation in the world.

Eg, Nixon had zero charisma. He was rude and not very likeable.

But an excellent politician.

Only thing that he fcuked up, was his morals.

But he was really brilliant as far as foreign policy and much else goes.

He cleaned up after the mess JFK and LBJ created.

JFK = the most overrated president in US history.

And probably the most overrated politician ever.

Dirty Dick also opened up relations with China, and started to negotiate with Soviet Union.

A great man in many ways. But with many short comings of course.

But he was a smart man.

And to have dumb person as a president is dangerous.

If you put a person in the position as president, and he isn't clear as to what the consequences are for starting a war with Iran (What do you want to do with the Iran situation reporter asks, McCain answers: I want to do like the Beach Boys"Bomb-bomb-bomb-bomb-bomb-Iran") you really got to start feel nervous.

Is the man senile?

You gotta wonder.

[240 is Back]

Twisting posts hasn't been below you before I should have known better, I guess.
His opinion and historical position on many issues of rights is all over the internet.  I don't need to deliver it to you.
Of course he HASN'T done much to destroy civil liberties.. HE'S NOT PRESIDENT YET JACK ASS.

His is as liberal as I've ever seen.  These are not secrets for cryin out loud.

Okay.  It's "All over the internet" but you can't find an example.

You think he'll do bad things, but you can't list what they'll be.

Come one, I don't want to like Obama, but you're not helping.  Yes, he's liberal.  But how does being liberal = removing personal liberties?