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Re: 61 Illegals Found Hiding In Big Rig Near Border...
« Reply #50 on: May 05, 2008, 08:14:38 PM »
The dollar has lost 50% OF IT'S VALUE in the last year.

It has already unraveled, not a question if it will, we are past that point.

I'm usually an optimist. But with our middle class vanishing, the invasion of low educated workers, not just manufacturing jobs but good jobs like engineering being moved to Asia, falling dollar, oil over $100 a barrel - quadrupled in price in 4 years - and most damaging our national debt and trade deficit, we are in for more than a slowdown.
We can't fix potholes in San Diego while in China they are building cities. Our bridges are collapsing and we can't fight fires in suburban neighborhoods while Dubai builds underwater hotels and gigantic man made islands.
Just look around. There is ample evidence that we are witnessing the most rapid transfer of a nations wealth in history. And America is not going to get back on top buying oil from the Middle East and everything else from China.
While at the same time letting our country get invaded and looted by another nations poor.


Well, my SOLUTION is that we Americans will employ the same ingenuity we always have to continue on as the finest country in the world

Anbd c'mon man...China? Dubai? They are f---ing prehistoric...I don't care what progress they are making....if they are...they are only hundreds of years behind us in too many ways

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« Reply #51 on: May 05, 2008, 08:16:15 PM »
well, the alarmists will always tell you the sky is falling.  they're usually wrong.

Oil at $120 per barrel - that is very tangible and very scary.  It was $19 per barrel when Bush took office.  It has gone up 500% and at this rate will be 600% by the time bush retires.

Oil at $150 per barrel when he leaves.  Suppose it keeps climbing?  I dont think you understand all the ramifications both here and globally.  

No, I am not very worldly, I admit that.

I tryu to concenbtrate on things I can control directly.

I strive not to burn energy on cloudy thinking.

Just understand that we have tremendous leverage against so many who some seem to think are out pacing us.

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Re: 61 Illegals Found Hiding In Big Rig Near Border...
« Reply #52 on: May 05, 2008, 08:16:35 PM »
Anbd c'mon man...China? Dubai? They are f---ing prehistoric...I don't care what progress they are making....if they are...they are only hundreds of years behind us in too many ways

sorry man, you've exposed yourself bigtime here.

china is a decade away from being a superpower whom we owe $5 tril, with deeds to our property as collateral.  Their population is getting very educated and they have a new iran/rus alliance that makes them untouchable.

Wow... I can't believe you don't see the threat they are.

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« Reply #53 on: May 05, 2008, 08:21:35 PM »
Why would they come here?  Bush has made sure Mexicos economy is stronger than ours....

Dumbest thing I've ever heard..........congrats, I nominate War-Horse for the dumbest quote of the day on GetBig!

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« Reply #54 on: May 05, 2008, 08:23:33 PM »
Dumbest thing I've ever heard..........congrats, I nominate War-Horse for the dumbest quote of the day on GetBig!

Mexico has less debt than us and the peso has showed far greater stability in the last year than the Dollar.

I await your response ;)

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« Reply #55 on: May 05, 2008, 08:24:45 PM »
sorry man, you've exposed yourself bigtime here.

china is a decade away from being a superpower whom we owe $5 tril, with deeds to our property as collateral.  Their population is getting very educated and they have a new iran/rus alliance that makes them untouchable.

Wow... I can't believe you don't see the threat they are.

No, I don't.

The whole Russian scare was a lie, as you know it turned out.

Could iut be China is being built up the same way to legitimize arms $ on our side?

Perhaps.

And 1+_ billion people, NO HUMAN RIGHTS, Smog to kill you...well...they beheaded the minister of food production (or whatever he was designated) without a jury trial...

I'd say China is NO THREAT due to the fact that they have enough internal problkems....its been proven that SOCIALISM does not, and will never, workl.

Sure...they are a threat.

But ultimately, far, far behind us.

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« Reply #56 on: May 05, 2008, 08:26:11 PM »
Mexico has less debt than us and the peso has showed far greater stability in the last year than the Dollar.

I await your response ;)

240...yopu are knowledgeable.

However...

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If I thought like sokme of the thoughts you are putting across, as the entrepreneur that I am...well...Ida know if I'd get outta bed each day! (respect)

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« Reply #57 on: May 05, 2008, 08:27:38 PM »
Folks, this country is being looted of it's assets. It is being destroyed.


1) The US Dollar has lost more than 40% its buying power since 2000. It traded for about 120 on the US Dollar Index in 2000. It went below 72 yesterday. It is headed lower.

2) More than 7 TRILLION dollars of wealth has evaporated from the world's balance sheets SINCE 1/1/08. How much is 7 TRILLION? Is that a significant amount?

3) Gold has gone from around $250 per ounce in 2000 to around $1,000 per ounce since that time. Gold is a lousy investment, isn't it? It doesn't pay interest. You could be getting 3% interest from a CD!

4) Oil averaged about $28 per barrel in 2000. Can you say $130 per barrel?

5) Silver traded between $4 and $5 in 2000. It is now trading for more than $20 per ounce.

6) Real estate is doing GREAT, isn't it? Real estate always goes up, doesn't it? Actually, it went down during the Great Depression, and we might be about to get another Depression. How will real estate do if that happens?

7) The Dow hit a then all time high of about 11,717 in January 2000. On the day I wrote this, it closed just above 12,145. WOW! About 428 points since January 2000! BUY AND HOLD! Stocks always go up! Actually, they don't. People who bought the Dow in 1929 had to wait until the 1950s for their portfolios to get back to where they had been in nominal terms. People who owned gold mining shares during the 1930s got rich.

8 ) Most bonds are yielding NEGATIVE real rates of return when inflation is considered.

9) The total monetary supply is being expanded by over 16% per year in the US.

10) The Dow has just about completed a “head and shoulders” pattern. Technical analysts normally regard this as a very bearish sign. I'm not a technical analyst. I'm a fundamentals guy. The fundamentals are crappy as well!

11) The Fed has announced that it is going to loan the bankers at least 200 BILLION dollars within the next month in order to “inject liquidity” into the system. In exchange for this, the Fed will accept a bunch of CDOs and other insane “investments” held by the banks as “security” for the loans. I don't think that the Fed will actually make the banks pay anything back. The Fed will create more billions out of thin air when the current rescue plan fails. The loans will “revolve” into outer space!

12) The Fed creates all its “money” out of thin air. It isn't backed by anything of value.

13) Inflation is a monetary phenomenon caused when central banks and their member banks (through the fractional reserve system) increase the supply of currency relative to the available goods and services. This causes prices to rise.

14) Our government and its “information organs” such as the BLS are LYING to us about the real rate of inflation and money creation.

15) Most people have not done ANYTHING at all to protect themselves from the evil policies that are robbing the middle class of what little wealth it has.




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« Reply #58 on: May 05, 2008, 08:27:53 PM »
The whole Russian scare was a lie, as you know it turned out.

Russia declared bankruptcy ten years ago.

Today they have a SURPLUS of $1 tril.  We have a $9tril deficit.
They are rebuilding and grabbing resources all over the world.  They have a ton of oil and their industry is back.  They're very scary, and Putin/Bush just started the cold war 2 with this missile defense mess.

You don't consider them a threat either?

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« Reply #59 on: May 05, 2008, 08:28:12 PM »
Mexico has less debt than us and the peso has showed far greater stability in the last year than the Dollar.

I await your response ;)

You CANNOT become wealthy without leveraged debt.

Simple ABC's of self reliance and becoming financially free.

Well , if this is true, I see why Mexico is such a wretched place.

C'mon...the Peso? Don't make me laugh....do you want your boss to start paying you in Pesos? :)

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« Reply #60 on: May 05, 2008, 08:29:43 PM »
240...yopu are knowledgeable.
However...
America needs people who think like me
If I thought like sokme of the thoughts you are putting across, as the entrepreneur that I am...well...Ida know if I'd get outta bed each day! (respect)

thanks.  i have no doubt that most of us will find a way to survive should shit hit fan and things get lean here for a while.  It's just fun to debate!

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« Reply #61 on: May 05, 2008, 08:30:12 PM »
Folks, this country is being looted of it's assets. It is being destroyed.


1) The US Dollar has lost more than 40% its buying power since 2000. It traded for about 120 on the US Dollar Index in 2000. It went below 72 yesterday. It is headed lower.

2) More than 7 TRILLION dollars of wealth has evaporated from the world's balance sheets SINCE 1/1/08. How much is 7 TRILLION? Is that a significant amount?

3) Gold has gone from around $250 per ounce in 2000 to around $1,000 per ounce since that time. Gold is a lousy investment, isn't it? It doesn't pay interest. You could be getting 3% interest from a CD!

4) Oil averaged about $28 per barrel in 2000. Can you say $130 per barrel?

5) Silver traded between $4 and $5 in 2000. It is now trading for more than $20 per ounce.

6) Real estate is doing GREAT, isn't it? Real estate always goes up, doesn't it? Actually, it went down during the Great Depression, and we might be about to get another Depression. How will real estate do if that happens?

7) The Dow hit a then all time high of about 11,717 in January 2000. On the day I wrote this, it closed just above 12,145. WOW! About 428 points since January 2000! BUY AND HOLD! Stocks always go up! Actually, they don't. People who bought the Dow in 1929 had to wait until the 1950s for their portfolios to get back to where they had been in nominal terms. People who owned gold mining shares during the 1930s got rich.

8) Most bonds are yielding NEGATIVE real rates of return when inflation is considered.

9) The total monetary supply is being expanded by over 16% per year in the US.

10) The Dow has just about completed a “head and shoulders” pattern. Technical analysts normally regard this as a very bearish sign. I'm not a technical analyst. I'm a fundamentals guy. The fundamentals are crappy as well!

11) The Fed has announced that it is going to loan the bankers at least 200 BILLION dollars within the next month in order to “inject liquidity” into the system. In exchange for this, the Fed will accept a bunch of CDOs and other insane “investments” held by the banks as “security” for the loans. I don't think that the Fed will actually make the banks pay anything back. The Fed will create more billions out of thin air when the current rescue plan fails. The loans will “revolve” into outer space!

12) The Fed creates all its “money” out of thin air. It isn't backed by anything of value.

13) Inflation is a monetary phenomenon caused when central banks and their member banks (through the fractional reserve system) increase the supply of currency relative to the available goods and services. This causes prices to rise.

14) Our government and its “information organs” such as the BLS are LYING to us about the real rate of inflation and money creation.

15) Most people have not done ANYTHING at all to protect themselves from the evil policies that are robbing the middle class of what little wealth it has.





Well, then, let's DO something about it...instead of wallowing

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« Reply #62 on: May 05, 2008, 08:30:57 PM »
thanks.  i have no doubt that most of us will find a way to survive should shit hit fan and things get lean here for a while.  It's just fun to debate!

Yes my frined...I was just thginking this IS more fun than my daily suppositories! :)

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« Reply #63 on: May 05, 2008, 08:31:11 PM »
C'mon...the Peso? Don't make me laugh....do you want your boss to start paying you in Pesos? :)

If I put $1 mil into pesos, and $1 mil into dollars, in 2000.

Today I would have $600k in dollars, and $1.2 mil in pesoes.


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« Reply #64 on: May 05, 2008, 08:32:20 PM »
What, no mention of the Chinese demographic time bomb looming on the horizon? 1 billion plus people that have plenty riding on government welfare programs, pensions, assistance etc. Remember, although they are humming along economically China has welfare responsibilities to its people, most of whom still live in poverty in the interior of the country. Although the US will eventually be faced with its 60 trillion dollar unfunded liabilities that no-one seems to want to even acknowledge, the Chinese situation will be worse. Although their government and society is still "controlled" i.e. the party leaders and PLA officers don't need to get re-elected, I'm sure they will have an easier time sorting it all out.

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« Reply #65 on: May 05, 2008, 08:33:09 PM »
Russia declared bankruptcy ten years ago.

Today they have a SURPLUS of $1 tril.  We have a $9tril deficit.
They are rebuilding and grabbing resources all over the world.  They have a ton of oil and their industry is back.  They're very scary, and Putin/Bush just started the cold war 2 with this missile defense mess.

You don't consider them a threat either?

Well, anybody can be a threat.

I could walk outside and get crushed by a meteor (or is that asteroid?).

You know that DEPRESSION is so rampant in Russia that folks are not having kids?

Their pop is decreasing by 750K per year, such a shitty place.

The govt gives a new car if parents give birth to a child.

Imagine if we had that here?

Ther'd be hari kari being performed everywhere!

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« Reply #66 on: May 05, 2008, 08:34:13 PM »
If I put $1 mil into pesos, and $1 mil into dollars, in 2000.

Today I would have $600k in dollars, and $1.2 mil in pesoes.



That's a lotta pesos! Muy Carumba!

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« Reply #67 on: May 05, 2008, 08:35:00 PM »
So seriously, fellow Yanks...what the f--- do we do abnout the 61 friggin illegals slippin' into our country (or trying to)?

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« Reply #68 on: May 05, 2008, 08:36:17 PM »
So seriously, fellow Yanks...what the f--- do we do abnout the 61 friggin illegals slippin' into our country (or trying to)?

nothing.  Bush-Mccain-Kennedy tried to legalize them last year.  They'll be legal once pres. mccain takes office.

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« Reply #69 on: May 05, 2008, 08:37:23 PM »
Also, you want to bring business and capital flows back to the USA? Drop the corporate tax rate to somewhere in the low 20's. It's to expensive to do business here compared to other places. 35% is way to high, no wonder jobs and manufacturing are leaving to other countries. It doesn't help that you have 2 Dem candidates vilifying business and corporations for making money and out-sourcing....well no shit! Take a look at tax rates and incentives comparatively world-wide, the U.S is not as far ahead economically as we once were so business has other choices now.

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« Reply #70 on: May 05, 2008, 08:37:41 PM »
Yes.cCain states he wishesd amnesty for thjose already here.

But what of future miscreants?

Build the wall?

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« Reply #71 on: May 05, 2008, 08:38:50 PM »
Also, you want to bring business and capital flows back to the USA? Drop the corporate tax rate to somewhere in the low 20's. It's to expensive to do business here compared to other places. 35% is way to high, no wonder jobs and manufacturing are leaving to other countries. It doesn't help that you have 2 Dem candidates vilifying business and corporations for making money and out-sourcing....well no shit! Take a look at tax rates and incentives comparatively world-wide, the U.S is not as far ahead economically as we once were so business has other choices now.

Upon these premises I agree.

Although I own two small businesses...the taxation rates are insane....must do intolerable vloume to make sm bus worthwhile

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« Reply #72 on: May 05, 2008, 08:39:57 PM »
Yes.cCain states he wishesd amnesty for thjose already here.

But what of future miscreants?

Build the wall?

they had 7 years of tough repub control.  no wall was built

they built a big wall in iraq in 6 months.

bush said last month it'll be 3 years before we're even ready to START a wall with mexico.

smells fishy.  that'll mean 11 years after he vowed to put up a wall, it can START.  I hope youre not that gullible to believe he ever inteneded to build one.

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« Reply #73 on: May 05, 2008, 08:42:18 PM »
they had 7 years of tough repub control.  no wall was built

they built a big wall in iraq in 6 months.

bush said last month it'll be 3 years before we're even ready to START a wall with mexico.

smells fishy.  that'll mean 11 years after he vowed to put up a wall, it can START.  I hope youre not that gullible to believe he ever inteneded to build one.

No.

That is patently rediculous

Start one NOW.

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« Reply #74 on: May 05, 2008, 09:17:01 PM »
GigantorX always owns these lib cowards.