arnold wasnt very strong was he and he didnt train very hard did he?

[LatsMcGee]

If you're not a powerlifter who gives a fuck about how much someone squats or benches?  Maxing out everytime you go to the gym is for insecure types,  the same ones who never make decent gains.

[danielson]

If you're not a powerlifter who gives a fuck about how much someone squats or benches?  Maxing out everytime you go to the gym is for insecure types,  the same ones who never make decent gains.

What about when people ask "what ya bench?" All those muscles don't mean shit if you can't reply with a big number!

[Mars]

What about when people ask "what ya bench?" All those muscles don't mean shit if you can't reply with a big number!

then you tell them a big number?

[MarvinEderFan]

NOT as strong as Marvin Eder

pound for pound practically nobody is as strong as marvin eder.

[danielson]

then you tell them a big number?

Too risky, guys always are like "wanna catch a workout" and shit like that. They act like working out is like golf, something to do casually with friends. At any rate, strength first, muscles will come later, trust me on this Mars.

[LatsMcGee]

What about when people ask "what ya bench?" All those muscles don't mean shit if you can't reply with a big number!

People ask me this all the time at work and I just say to the "what do you think I bench?"  They usually give me a respectable figure and than I tell them I haven't done a bench press in 8 years.

[Moosejay]

Arnold was strong as fuck in his early years ..Typical get big bullshit 

When he came to the USA he thought you turn up big you win the show , but he learnt a lesson from a much more ripped frank zane who handed Arnold one of his last defeats..

He had enough mass when he arrived in the States so went about "refining" what he had all ready built..

He competed in powerlifting when he was younger and won comps So I doubt he was "weak"

He also used to wear out training partners , not cos he used to fuck there GFs  but his mental drive was unmatched so he used to just burn them out.

I wouldnt use pumping iron as a tool to gauge how Arnold trained , most of that was all staged for the camera..

Arnold and the guys from that era also trained much harder than the guys do today..

Can you imagine the guys today trying to do 30 - 60 sets per bodypart 2 - 3 times a week?
It would kill them , alot of them now get out of breath just walking 

All correct.

If you want to talk 'athletes'...Arnie et al, THEY were athletes.

the gus today, replete with sweating and panting upon incidental movement...they are not.

[Moosejay]

If you're not a powerlifter who gives a fuck about how much someone squats or benches?  Maxing out everytime you go to the gym is for insecure types,  the same ones who never make decent gains.

BINGO.

Specially for many of the youths inhabiting this site.

Look good, tell people you are strong.

they won't know the difference, you will save yourself injury.

You will not be playing in the NFL.

[Moosejay]

What about when people ask "what ya bench?" All those muscles don't mean shit if you can't reply with a big number!

Because you are not enlightened.

[Meso_z]

Not sure if Franco was involved ,but yes have heard they used to load up the trunk of the VW with 20kg plates and head for the forest..Arnold said that he felt like a warrior ala Conan when he done this and chucking logic out the window in regards to training from time to time did wonders for his growth

lol....Arnold was the man.

Imagine being with him when he did this. Fuckin cool.

[Moosejay]

Not sure if Franco was involved ,but yes have heard they used to load up the trunk of the VW with 20kg plates and head for the forest..Arnold said that he felt like a warrior ala Conan when he done this and chucking logic out the window in regards to training from time to time did wonders for his growth

WG...he did this while still in Austria...prior to meeting up with Franco in Germany...did it with his bros from Thal

[Petrucci]

Sorry, you can't count 1980.

so you cant count some colemanīs olympias, about 2 of dorian...probably francoīs...and the list goes on...

[Pet shop boys]

 Re: arnold wasnt very strong was he and he didnt train very hard did he?


When youre 20 years old (still under age) and yet youre the biggest bb everywhere you go, why bother trainning heavy?

When he came over from Europe, He got beaten by zane who was over 50 pounds lighter than him!!!


WOOOSSSHHHHHHHHHH  !!!!

[Moosejay]

Re: arnold wasnt very strong was he and he didnt train very hard did he?


When youre 20 years old (still under age) and yet youre the biggest bb everywhere you go, why bother trainning heavy?

When he came over from Europe, He got beaten by zane who was over 50 pounds lighter than him!!!

And the beat goes on.

WOOOSSSHHHHHHHHHH  !!!!

[WillGrant]

WG...he did this while still in Austria...prior to meeting up with Franco in Germany...did it with his bros from Thal

Ahh yes Thanks MJ.
I read alot about Arnold from lots of sources growing up , he was and proberly still is my idol , though as you age other areas of your life become a priority.
But a man who started with nothing as a boy , came from an average family with no wealth to speak of, could not speak english but yet he became the best bodybuilder on the planet , one of the biggest payed box office stars of our lifetimes , a very successful businessman and now a Politician,The man is somthing special in my mind...

When I need a lift to train its pics and articles of and by Arnold that rev me up..I dont care for the guys of today..to me Arnolds charisma still is what drives my interest in bodybuilding and I look at the guys of that era as freaks still , the guys today are just walking sceince projects gone wrong..

MJ I know you got to see Robby as a teen did you ever rub shoulders with the great oak at all?

[Moosejay]

WG...Arnold is likely the only guy I didn't interact with or ever even see.

And don't be surprised is physiques start to someday migrate back to the look of yesteryear...with current times being seen as a bleak ones for the state of bb

[Bear]

His numbers were 675 deadlift, 405 bench, and 455 squat.

405 bench FOR 8! According to him anyway. So single it's hard to say. Singles are gay anyway.

[oldman]

Poor Arnold

he didn't accomplish much in the bodybuilding world, after he retired what did he accomplish?  compare him to any beach bum, g4p, washed up no kidney mfer.  the simple fact is: the would not be bodybuilding if there was no Arnold.

hope this post didn't stop you from rubbing one off...

[dan18]

Too risky, guys always are like "wanna catch a workout" and shit like that. They act like working out is like golf, something to do casually with friends. At any rate, strength first, muscles will come later, trust me on this Mars.

comming from a mass monster like you must be true you need form 1st then as you move up in weight you do it right so you avoid injury, muscle can grow even with medium weight. some people are naturally strong, 

[Moosejay]

Poor Arnold

he didn't accomplish much in the bodybuilding world, after he retired what did he accomplish?  compare him to any beach bum, g4p, washed up no kidney mfer.  the simple fact is: the would not be bodybuilding if there was no Arnold.

hope this post didn't stop you from rubbing one off...

Iron Man was f---ing awesome.

More accurate and true to the comic than even spiderman was

[Moosejay]

comming from a mass monster like you must be true you need form 1st then as you move up in weight you do it right so you avoid injury, muscle can grow even with medium weight. some people are naturally strong, 

True.

there are dudes baling hay on farms throughout the country who have never touched a weight and could likely pull a trophy in a show

[MB_722]

I liked zanes physique. I wonder what kind of lifts he was making back in the day.

[Bluto]

sounds to me arnold wasnt very strong

[Moosejay]

I liked zanes physique. I wonder what kind of lifts he was making back in the day.

Strong on legs early on...marginal on all else for his career...there was a point where he went overboard with the weight poundages to play the size game...but could not avoid injuries so abandoned this ploy

[pumpster]

sounds to me arnold wasnt very strong

With a max bench around 400 that's pretty solid in fact, that's definitely strong if not exceptional. There's no value to have gone higher just to satisfy a bluto's opinion. Some of the knuckleheads here don't get that while they can bench around the same thing that was done 30 years ago and the idea was development, not ego or numbers. Really no reason to have to be one of the strongest BBs around other than ego and the fact that some guys are just naturally stronger.

What i'm more interested in is whether he trained hard, which is hard to substantiate despite the many urban legends he and others propogate about him.