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« Reply #875 on: May 10, 2011, 06:04:20 PM »

Gay divorce is going to be a real carnival act. 
LOL true, how long before a judge judy type show starts with that as the premise...

FUCK man thats a million dollar idea right there LMFAO
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« Reply #876 on: May 10, 2011, 06:36:45 PM »

LOL true, how long before a judge judy type show starts with that as the premise...

FUCK man thats a million dollar idea right there LMFAO

Let's do it!
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« Reply #877 on: May 10, 2011, 09:32:00 PM »

Let's do it!

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« Reply #878 on: May 11, 2011, 05:18:51 AM »

Let's do it!
i agree..
let's do it.
first,  let's legalize it all over ... Wink
then we can 'do it'
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« Reply #879 on: May 11, 2011, 05:22:20 AM »

at the very least hopefully the obnoxious gay rights movement will get some groups to realize the hypocrisey of yelling for equal rights but really wanting special rights...

if this gets women to stop asking to be treated equal while at the same time still insisting to be treated like ladies when it suits them then im all for it.

That would be fantastic!
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« Reply #880 on: May 11, 2011, 05:26:55 AM »

Gay divorce is going to be a real carnival act. 

It already is. And, the irony is that the lesbian couple that started this mess in Massachusetts, filing the suit that got Mass. to legalize gay "marriage", filed for "divorce" just a few years later.
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« Reply #881 on: May 11, 2011, 05:28:23 PM »

It already is. And, the irony is that the lesbian couple that started this mess in Massachusetts, filing the suit that got Mass. to legalize gay "marriage", filed for "divorce" just a few years later.
hmmm wonder why bay didnt start a thread on that like he does every other high profile hetro divorce.

Bay can you speak on this?

also would you and your husband like to be on our tv show?
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« Reply #882 on: May 11, 2011, 05:49:40 PM »

hmmm wonder why bay didnt start a thread on that like he does every other high profile hetro divorce.

Bay can you speak on this?

also would you and your husband like to be on our tv show?


Probably will be Chad.
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« Reply #883 on: May 12, 2011, 05:15:55 AM »

Probably will be Chad.
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« Reply #884 on: June 24, 2011, 07:10:42 PM »

Gay Marriage Approved by N.Y. Senate
By NICHOLAS CONFESSORE and MICHAEL BARBARO

ALBANY — Lawmakers voted late Friday to legalize same-sex marriage, making New York the largest state where gay and lesbian couples will be able to wed, and giving the national gay-rights movement new momentum from the state where it was born.

The same-sex marriage bill was approved on a 33-to-29 vote, as 4 Republican state senators joined 29 Democrats in voting for the bill. The Senate galleries were so packed with supporters and opponents that the fire marshals closed them off. And along the Great Western Staircase, outside the Senate chamber, about 100 demonstrators chanted and waved placards throughout the night — separated by a generation, a phalanx of state troopers and 10 feet of red marble.

“Support traditional marriage,” read signs held by opponents. “Love is love, Vote Yes,” declared those in the hands of the far more youthful group of people who supported it.

Senate approval was the final hurdle for the same-sex marriage legislation, which is strongly supported by Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo and was approved last week by the Assembly. Mr. Cuomo is expected to sign the measure soon, and the law will go into effect 30 days later, meaning that same-sex couples could begin marrying in New York by midsummer.

Passage of same-sex marriage here followed a daunting run of defeats in other states where voters barred same-sex marriage by legislative action, constitutional amendment or referendum. Just five states currently permit same-sex marriage: Connecticut, Iowa, Massachusetts, New Hampshire and Vermont, as well as the District of Columbia.

The approval of same-sex marriage represented a reversal of fortune for gay-rights advocates, who just two years ago suffered a humiliating, and unexpected, defeat when a same-sex marriage bill was easily defeated in the Senate, which was then controlled by Democrats. This year, with the Senate controlled by Republicans, the odds against passage of same-sex marriage appeared long.

But the unexpected victory had an unlikely champion: Mr. Cuomo, a Democrat who pledged last year to support same-sex marriage but whose early months in office were dominated by intense battles with lawmakers and some labor unions over spending cuts.

Mr. Cuomo made same-sex marriage one of his top priorities for the year and deployed his top aide to coordinate the efforts of a half-dozen local gay-rights organizations whose feuding and disorganization had in part been blamed for the 2009 defeat. The new coalition of same-sex marriage supporters also brought in one of Mr. Cuomo’s trusted campaign operatives to supervise a $3 million television and radio campaign aimed at persuading a handful of Republican and Democratic senators to drop their opposition and support same-sex marriage.

For Senate Republicans, even bringing the measure to the floor was a freighted decision. Most of the Republicans firmly oppose same-sex marriage on moral grounds, and many of them also had political concerns, fearing that allowing same-sex marriage to pass on their watch would embitter conservative voters and cost the Republican Party its one-seat majority in the Senate. Leaders of the state’s Conservative Party — the support of which many Republican lawmakers depend on to win election — warned that they would oppose in legislative elections next year any Republican senator who voted for same-sex marriage.

But after days of agonized discussion capped by a marathon nine-hour, closed-door debate on Friday, Republicans came to a fateful decision. The full Senate would be allowed to vote on same-sex marriage, the majority leader, Dean G. Skelos, said Friday afternoon, and each member would be left to vote according to his conscience.

"The days of just bottling up things, and using these as excuses not to have votes — as far as I’m concerned as leader, its over with," said Mr. Skelos, a Long Island Republican.

Several senators delivered impassioned speeches about the vote.

The lone Democratic opponent, Senator Ruben Diaz of the Bronx, said it was “unbelievable” that the Republican Party, “the party that always defended family values,” had allowed same-sex marriage to pass.

“God, not Albany, has settled the definition of marriage, a long time ago,” he said.

But Mark Grisanti, a Buffalo Republican who opposed gay marriage when he ran for election last year, said he had studied the issue closely, agonized over his responsibility as a lawmaker, and concluded he could not vote against the bill. Mr. Grisanti voted yes.

“A man can be wiser today than yesterday, but there can be no respect for that man if he has failed to do his duty," Mr. Grisanti told his colleagues.

The tide of change in Albany began as Mr. Cuomo relentlessly pressed lawmakers in a series of phone calls and sit-down meetings, advocates also tried to demonstrate shifting public opinion, citing polls that showed a majority of New York voters supporting same-sex marriage, and releasing almost daily written or videotaped expressions of support from celebrities as well as professional athletes, business leaders, and political figures.

The legalization of same-sex marriage in the United States is a relatively recent goal of the gay-rights movement, but over the last few years, gay-rights organizers have placed it at the center of their agenda, steering money and muscle into dozens of state capitals in an often uphill effort to persuade lawmakers.

In New York, passage of the bill reflects rapidly evolving sentiment about same-sex unions. In 2004, according to the Quinnipiac poll, 37 percent of the state’s residents supported allowing same-sex couples to wed. This year, 58 percent of them did. Advocates moved aggressively this year to capitalize on that shift, flooding the district offices of wavering lawmakers with phone calls, e-mails and signed postcards from constituents who favored same-sex marriage, sometimes in bundles that numbered in the thousands.

Dozens more states have laws or constitutional amendments banning same-sex marriage, many of them approved in the last few years, as same-sex marriage moved to the front line of the culture war and politicians deployed the issue as a tool for energizing their base.

But New York could be a shift: It is now by far the largest state to grant legal recognition to same-sex weddings, and one that is home to a large, visible and politically influential gay community. Supporters of the measure described the victory in New York as especially symbolic — and poignant — because of its rich place in the history of gay rights: the movement’s foundational moment, in June of 1969, was a riot against police inside the Stonewall Inn, a bar in the West Village.

     On Friday night, as the Senate voted, a crowd jammed into the Stonewall Inn, where televisions were tuned to the Senate hours before the vote began.  Danny Garvin, 62, said he had been at the bar the night of the riot, and came back to watch the Senate debate Friday. On the streets where police beat gay men in 1969, on Friday crowds cheered, as police quietly stood watch. Bernie Janelle, 53, turned to her partner of 16 years, Cindy Hearing, and said, “I’m going to propose to her on Sunday.”

Just before the Senate’s marriage vote, lawmakers in the Senate and Assembly also approved a broad package of major legislation that constituted the remainder of their agenda for the year. The bills included a cap on local property tax increases, and a strengthening of New York’s rent regulation laws, as well as a five-year tuition increase at the State University of New York and the City University of New York.

After passing the marriage measure, the Legislature was expected to adjourn its annual legislative session, which had been scheduled to end June 20.
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« Reply #885 on: June 24, 2011, 07:22:23 PM »

Are you moving here?   I will give you a tour.    No homo though. 
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« Reply #886 on: June 25, 2011, 03:49:50 AM »

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« Reply #887 on: July 19, 2011, 04:34:01 PM »

Obama endorses Feinstein bill to repeal Defense of Marriage Act
By Christine Mai-Duc

President Obama endorsed a bill Tuesday that would repeal the Defense of Marriage Act, a 15-year-old law denying federal benefits for same-sex couples.

"The president has long called for a legislative repeal of the so-called Defense of Marriage Act, which continues to have a real impact on the lives of real people – our families, friends and neighbors,” said White House spokesman Shin Inouye.

DOMA, passed by Congress in 1996 and signed into law by President Clinton, defines marriage as a legal union between one man and one woman.

Inouye said the bill introduced by Sen.Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) to repeal it would "uphold the principle that the federal government should not deny gay and lesbian couples the same rights and legal protections as straight couples."

In the past, Obama has voiced support for civil unions for gay couples, but stopped short of supporting same-sex marriage, and instead has said his views are "evolving."

Last year, Obama supported the repeal of the military's "don't ask, don't tell" policy. Earlier this year, the administration announced it would no longer defend DOMA in court, though it would continue to enforce the law unless it is repealed. But Obama supported the use of "discretion" by immigration officials in cases of married same-sex couples in which one spouse is undocumented.

Yet even as Feinstein spoke to a group of reporters about Wednesday's Senate committee hearing on the repeal, Obama had not officially endorsed it.

Advocates of the repeal were elated upon the announcement.

“It is rare that a White House endorses a bill that has yet to pass first in either the Senate or the House,” said Rick Jacobs, chairman of the gay rights advocacy group Courage Campaign, in a statement. “His support makes clear to all Americans that the Defense of Marriage Act has no place in our society.”
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« Reply #888 on: July 20, 2011, 03:36:33 AM »

Obama endorses Feinstein bill to repeal Defense of Marriage Act
By Christine Mai-Duc

President Obama endorsed a bill Tuesday that would repeal the Defense of Marriage Act, a 15-year-old law denying federal benefits for same-sex couples.

"The president has long called for a legislative repeal of the so-called Defense of Marriage Act, which continues to have a real impact on the lives of real people – our families, friends and neighbors,” said White House spokesman Shin Inouye.

DOMA, passed by Congress in 1996 and signed into law by President Clinton, defines marriage as a legal union between one man and one woman.

Inouye said the bill introduced by Sen.Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) to repeal it would "uphold the principle that the federal government should not deny gay and lesbian couples the same rights and legal protections as straight couples."

In the past, Obama has voiced support for civil unions for gay couples, but stopped short of supporting same-sex marriage, and instead has said his views are "evolving."

Last year, Obama supported the repeal of the military's "don't ask, don't tell" policy. Earlier this year, the administration announced it would no longer defend DOMA in court, though it would continue to enforce the law unless it is repealed. But Obama supported the use of "discretion" by immigration officials in cases of married same-sex couples in which one spouse is undocumented.

Yet even as Feinstein spoke to a group of reporters about Wednesday's Senate committee hearing on the repeal, Obama had not officially endorsed it.

Advocates of the repeal were elated upon the announcement.

“It is rare that a White House endorses a bill that has yet to pass first in either the Senate or the House,” said Rick Jacobs, chairman of the gay rights advocacy group Courage Campaign, in a statement. “His support makes clear to all Americans that the Defense of Marriage Act has no place in our society.”

What this shows is the obvious: Obama is a coward and a liar. If he ran on this in 2008, he would have lost significant votes, even among black people. Now, his views have "evolved"......PLEASE!!!!

This is simply more pandering to the gays. He knows this has NO CHANCE IN HELL of passing the House. Mostly (if not solely) Dems in blue states that support gay "marriage" will bother giving this the time of day. Dems who are up for re-election from states with marriage amendments will avoid this like the plague. Same for their GOP counterparts.
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« Reply #889 on: July 20, 2011, 05:03:19 AM »

This is simply more pandering ...
i love pandering; i'll let you pander me anytime..your place or mine ! Wink
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« Reply #890 on: July 21, 2011, 05:10:33 AM »

Out of the mouths of babes.  Smiley

"The only reason why it's even an issue is because people are not comfortable with themself."
 

Young New Yorkers Speak Out On Gay Marriage
On Sunday, New York will become the largest state to allow same-sex couples to wed, a move that was approved by the State Senate last month to tearful and raucous applause. For many couples who have been waiting for decades for their union to be legally recognized, it was a joyous victory in a hard-fought battle for the same rights afforded to straight couples.

But for some of New York’s younger residents, those 18 to 24, who were born long after the city’s first gay pride parade in 1970, and for whom marriage is a distant idea, does the legalization of same-sex marriage matter?

The New York Times interviewed dozens of people in recent days to get their perspective on the topic. With more teenagers coming out in high school, many said that homosexuality and bisexuality was more mainstream than it was a generation ago. Nevertheless, their gay peers, relatives and siblings still faced challenges...

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2011/07/21/nyregion/20110720-gay-marriage-young-voices.html


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« Reply #891 on: July 21, 2011, 05:20:17 AM »

Out of the mouths of babes.  Smiley

"The only reason why it's even an issue is because people are not comfortable with themself.
 

Young New Yorkers Speak Out On Gay Marriage
On Sunday, New York will become the largest state to allow same-sex couples to wed, a move that was approved by the State Senate last month to tearful and raucous applause. For many couples who have been waiting for decades for their union to be legally recognized, it was a joyous victory in a hard-fought battle for the same rights afforded to straight couples.

But for some of New York’s younger residents, those 18 to 24, who were born long after the city’s first gay pride parade in 1970, and for whom marriage is a distant idea, does the legalization of same-sex marriage matter?

The New York Times interviewed dozens of people in recent days to get their perspective on the topic. With more teenagers coming out in high school, many said that homosexuality and bisexuality was more mainstream than it was a generation ago. Nevertheless, their gay peers, relatives and siblings still faced challenges...

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2011/07/21/nyregion/20110720-gay-marriage-young-voices.html


Lying, cheating, and adultery are more "mainstream", too. And the reason it's an issue has little to do with people not being comfortable with themselves. It has to do with the future of society, an institution that has been the bedrock of society, and the adverse affects of diminishing marriage, to include the introduction of gay "marriage".

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« Reply #892 on: July 21, 2011, 05:29:43 AM »

I know a few gays via other friends and they are mostly a bunch of single issue voters who want to play the victim card 24/7.


Its all about them and their issues all the time.   I am routinely called homophobic etc by these twinks and I tell them "You are right, I dont give a damn about LGBT issues while the nations' economy is in collapse"!"   
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« Reply #893 on: July 21, 2011, 05:49:06 AM »

I know a few gays via other friends and they are mostly a bunch of single issue voters who want to play the victim card 24/7.


Its all about them and their issues all the time.   I am routinely called homophobic etc by these twinks and I tell them "You are right, I dont give a damn about LGBT issues while the nations' economy is in collapse"!"   

I can see how you feel that way, especially when (historically speaking) homosexual couples hardly get marriage licenses in nations/states where gay "marriage" has been legal for quite some time.

Look at the Netherlands. About one in ten get them and gay "marriage" has been legal there for over a decade. In fact, marriage rates are low, overall there and (by mere coincidence) at least two states that have gay "marriage" just happen to have the lowest marriage rates in the country (Vermont and Massachusetts).
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« Reply #894 on: July 25, 2011, 09:30:46 AM »

After Long Wait, Same-Sex Couples Marry in New York
By MICHAEL BARBARO

Hundreds of gay and lesbian couples, from retirees in Woodstock to college students in Manhattan, rushed to tiny town halls and big city clerks’ offices across New York to wed in the first hours of legal same-sex marriage on Sunday, turning a slumbering summer day into an emotional celebration.

They arrived by subway cars and stretch limousines, with children and with grandparents, in matching sequined ties and pinstriped suits, to utter words that once seemed unimaginable: I do.

Even those who had been together for decades, watching same-sex marriage become legal in surrounding states but suffer rejection in New York, said there was something unexpectedly moving and affirming about having their unions recognized by the state in which they live.

“We feel a little more human today,” Ray Durand, 68, said moments after marrying his partner, Dale Shields, 79, whom he met 42 years ago by a jukebox in a West Village bar.

The start of same-sex marriage in New York instantly doubled the number of Americans who live in states where gay and lesbian couples can wed. Gay-rights advocates, energized by their victory in New York — the sixth and largest state where it is allowed — are turning their attention next to Maryland, but they face long odds in much of the country, where there are tougher legal and political obstacles.

Several thousand people rallied in Midtown Manhattan to protest the new law, waving signs that said “God cannot be mocked” and calling for a public referendum on same-sex marriage. Their cries were echoed by smaller crowds in a few cities upstate.

“Today, we start the war,” State Senator Ruben Díaz Sr., a Bronx Democrat, declared.

Despite the demonstrations, long lines and bureaucratic glitches, a spirit of patience and good humor pervaded. In Lower Manhattan, brides and grooms defiantly opened dozens of rainbow-colored umbrellas to block the protesters from view.

There were scenes, too, of striking public embrace. Outside marriage bureaus, police officers offered unsolicited congratulations, passers-by honked their horns and strangers tossed hand-made confetti at the newlyweds.

After a bruising multiyear legislative battle that ended when the State Senate approved same-sex marriage last month by a narrow margin, some of the state’s top elected officials seemed determined on Sunday to demonstrate public support for the new law.

Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo hosted a party for same-sex marriage advocates in Manhattan, Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg presided at a wedding in the backyard of Gracie Mansion, and the City Council speaker, Christine C. Quinn, visited marriage bureaus in several boroughs.

The bulk of the day’s marriages took place in New York City, where 659 couples picked up licenses and 484 wed at city marriage bureaus: 293 in Manhattan, 66 in Queens, 66 in Brooklyn, 32 on Staten Island and 27 in the Bronx. Most were New York residents, but 107 of those who married in the city had arrived from other states, mostly those, like California and Alabama, where same-sex marriage is not legal.

But even far from Manhattan, city and town offices opened their doors on a day when they would ordinarily have been closed, sometimes just for a handful of weddings. Binghamton had five; Buffalo and Syracuse, eight.

In Shandaken, a town of 3,100 in the Catskills, the town clerk issued just one marriage license, to a New Jersey couple: Katie Morgan, 37, a freelance television producer, and Brooke Barnett, 30, a wine consultant, who have a weekend home in Shandaken.

Three communities — Niagara Falls, Albany and Hudson — were so eager to marry gays and lesbians that began to do so shortly before midnight...
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/25/nyregion/after-long-wait-same-sex-couples-marry-in-new-york.html


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« Reply #895 on: July 25, 2011, 09:35:30 AM »

Like we have nothing else to worry about buy twinks and their agenda.   Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #896 on: July 25, 2011, 12:19:58 PM »

Like we have nothing else to worry about buy twinks and their agenda.   Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes
looking at that pic of the older gentlemen, it is clear you don't understand the real definition of 'twink'
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« Reply #897 on: July 25, 2011, 12:27:13 PM »

Group Readies Suit Seeking to Nullify Gay Marriages
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An organization that opposes same-sex marriage said on Monday that it would file a lawsuit against the State Senate, seeking to overturn the legalization of such marriages and to nullify the hundreds of gay and lesbian weddings that have taken place in New York State since the law took effect on Sunday.

The group, New Yorkers for Constitutional Freedoms, alleges that the Senate violated the state’s open meetings law in the run-up to the vote on the marriage bill and acted improperly in closing the Senate lobby to members of the public.

The lawsuit also asserts that Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo had no basis for issuing a so-called message of necessity, which allowed lawmakers to vote on the marriage bill immediately after the language was drawn up, rather than allowing it to “age” for three days, as is usually required.

“Constitutional liberties were violated,” the Rev. Jason J. McGuire, the executive director of New Yorkers for Constitutional Freedoms, said in a statement. “Today we are asking the court to intervene in its rightful role as the check and balance on an out-of-control State Legislature.”

The complaint (see also below), which is to be filed in State Supreme Court in Livingston County, where Mr. McGuire lives, states: “The plaintiffs in this case seek to preserve not only marriage as the union of one woman to one man, but also our constitutional liberties by acting as a check on an out-of-control political process that was willing to pass a bill regardless of how many laws and rules it violated.”

A spokesman for Mr. Cuomo, Josh Vlasto, said the lawsuit had no merit.

“The plaintiffs lack a basic understanding of the laws of the state of New York,” Mr. Vlasto said.

Spokesmen for the Senate majority leader, Dean G. Skelos, and the state attorney general, Eric T. Schneiderman, declined to comment on the suit.

http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/07/25/group-readies-suit-seeking-to-nullify-gay-marriages/?hp



This is amusing.  Earlier in this thread opponents of gay marriage attacked the courts for being out of control.  In this post, conservatives attack the legislature for being out of control.  It appears that “out of control” is a euphemism for “doesn’t agree with my bigoted world view.” Roll Eyes
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« Reply #898 on: July 25, 2011, 03:58:04 PM »

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« Reply #899 on: January 20, 2012, 07:28:18 PM »

Gay marriage draws support from U.S. mayors led by Villaraigosa

Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa was among a group of 80 mayors in Washington on Friday who pledged their support for gay marriage and announced an initiative aimed at expanding marriage rights for same-sex couples.
 
The initiative, called Mayors for the Freedom to Marry, was announced during a press conference held at the U.S. Conference of Mayors' winter meeting. Villaraigosa will co-chair the group.
 
The mayors have pledged to push their cities to pass laws allowing same-sex marriage and urge Congress to repeal the Defense of Marriage Act, which defines marriage as a legal union between one man and one woman. Critics say it unfairly denies federal benefits to same-sex married couples and allows states to refuse to recognize same-sex marriages granted in other states.
 
“If we truly believe in family values, we should value all families,” Villaraigosa said. “Denying gay and lesbian couples the freedom to marry weakens society by hurting our communities, neighbors and families.”
 
The group, among others, includes Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg of New York, Mayor Rahm Emanuel of Chicago and Mayor Annise Parker of Houston, who is openly gay. The group is an offshoot of Freedom to Marry, a national organization that pushes for same-sex marriage rights.

Also among the mayors in the group is Republican Mayor Jerry Sanders of San Diego, who in 2007 relented on his previous opposition to same-sex marriage, saying that he could not accept that his daughter was less worthy of marriage because she is a lesbian.

“Allowing loving and committed couples to join in marriage has benefits not just for couples and their families — but also for society,” Sanders said. 
 
Villaraigosa has long been a supporter of same-sex marriage rights and stringent opponent of Proposition 8, the 2008 California measure that banned gay marriage. In 2008, he presided over the marriage of a same-sex couple, uniting a Hollywood producer and his five-year companion in a short ceremony at City Hall.
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