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Author Topic: Craig Titus and Kelly Ryan Have Taken a Plea Deal ---> 5-30-08  (Read 34609 times)
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« Reply #100 on: May 31, 2008, 04:31:50 PM »

Has it been shown that she was dead when they put her in the car?

I don't know, but I would bet they killed her before burning the car (and her). I think a good guess is going to be that CT was high on some drug and flipped out on MJ over something not yet made public (stealing? who knows what, could be anything really).

CT had/has some serious anger management issues, and I think that is what is going to be at the bottom of this.
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« Reply #101 on: May 31, 2008, 04:33:38 PM »

knowing Jeff the way I do, I'd be more willing to bet he was at home masturbating to Gary Strydom's MySpace page.

Well almost.  Actually I was just online working on a modified version of the ascension diet with my friend gh15, but I know what you mean; same thing, right?  Grin
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« Reply #102 on: May 31, 2008, 04:42:49 PM »

Mexicans rate lower than convicted murderers in my book.

Really? wow... that's some serious hatred right there. 
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« Reply #103 on: May 31, 2008, 04:48:07 PM »

That is a good point. These two sections are all that applies to FIRST DEGREE arson, which is what KR is supposed to plead to.

A car is certainly covered under third and fourth degree arson though.

http://www.leg.state.nv.us/NRS/NRS-205.html#NRS205Sec005

NRS 205.020  Third degree. A person who willfully and maliciously sets fire to or burns or causes to be burned, or who aids, counsels or procures the burning of:

      1.  Any unoccupied personal property of another which has the value of $25 or more;

     


Actually, no.  See bolded text.

The way I'm reading everthing you've posted, it seems to me you can set fire to your own car, so long as it isn't "occupied", and you have sole ownership.

I suppose they could make third degree arson if the car was leased or has a lien on it, but the plain wording of the law doesn't seem to support first degree.  Really, the proper charge for her would be accessory to murder, not arson.
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« Reply #104 on: May 31, 2008, 05:57:29 PM »

the girl and the belly should both be executed
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« Reply #105 on: May 31, 2008, 06:17:41 PM »

I thought he was such a stand up guy!
Plea deal - pretty weak!
So much for Craigs tough guy act!
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« Reply #106 on: May 31, 2008, 10:49:51 PM »

Craig's plea to 1st Degree Arson indicates that he was aware that Melissa was still alive when placed in the trunk of the vehicle and it was set ablaze.

Judges do not accept plea agreements where the admissions do not conform to the statute requirements.
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« Reply #107 on: June 01, 2008, 12:07:06 AM »

Thanks again to Johnny and Jason for the consec/concurrent clarification.
Also after all this time, how many months in that rat ass jail? And they're plea bargaining? Unbelievable.
Both of them are complete morons.

Sorry Ron. You can go to bat for Craigers and go on about how much he loves her all day long.
Doesnt change the fact of what these two add up to be
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« Reply #108 on: June 01, 2008, 12:08:52 AM »

Craig's plea to 1st Degree Arson indicates that he was aware that Melissa was still alive when placed in the trunk of the vehicle and it was set ablaze.

Judges do not accept plea agreements where the admissions do not conform to the statute requirements.

holy shit... that would be huge. 
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« Reply #109 on: June 01, 2008, 12:58:59 AM »

there is only one male in the world i would agree to participate in gang tape of as in me fuckin him up the ass really really hard ,,
this male is the murderer
i would also love to see the ugly wife getting raped while making the murderer watch it



Did Kelly and Craig turn you down  Huh
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« Reply #110 on: June 01, 2008, 01:32:18 PM »

Thanks again to Johnny and Jason for the consec/concurrent clarification.
Also after all this time, how many months in that rat ass jail? And they're plea bargaining? Unbelievable.
Both of them are complete morons.

Sorry

98% of cases are resolved in a plea bargain.  Craig was looking at life and a day.  Now he'll be out in 10 or 15 years.  Very few cases go the distance.  If you have no idea what you're talking about you shouldn't post anything.
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« Reply #111 on: June 01, 2008, 03:19:10 PM »

98% of cases are resolved in a plea bargain.  Craig was looking at life and a day.  Now he'll be out in 10 or 15 years.  Very few cases go the distance.  If you have no idea what you're talking about you shouldn't post anything.

Pretty much on the money.

The number might be 95%-97% for felonies, but for misdemeanors 99+% are plea bargains.

Even in civil  ( as in $$$$, not jail time) cases (in the federal system anyway), only 1.3% get to trial, or 13 out of 1000 cases. That is a ridiculously low number.

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« Reply #112 on: June 01, 2008, 03:19:50 PM »

and i forgot to thank mr macfarland for macfardlandphone
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« Reply #113 on: June 01, 2008, 05:09:42 PM »

If someone has been paying his IFBB Pro card renewal is this Fukka still an IFBB Pro???.
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« Reply #114 on: June 01, 2008, 10:32:16 PM »

craig is innocent.  Cheesy Cheesy
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« Reply #115 on: June 01, 2008, 10:49:13 PM »

You mean I can kill someone and get that sentence.
Id trade that for my MandD of steroid charge of 9-99 years anyday!
I should be a hitman :0)
Fuckin laws are stupid!
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« Reply #116 on: June 01, 2008, 10:51:46 PM »

craig is innocent.  Cheesy Cheesy

Yeah,
me too :0)

I bet I serve more time than craig.
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« Reply #117 on: June 02, 2008, 06:13:01 AM »

You mean I can kill someone and get that sentence.
Id trade that for my MandD of steroid charge of 9-99 years anyday!
I should be a hitman :0)
Fuckin laws are stupid!

YOU probably couldn't pull it off.  Craig is a mastermind.  You'd take the "Big Bitch".
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« Reply #118 on: June 02, 2008, 08:27:25 AM »

You mean I can kill someone and get that sentence.
Id trade that for my MandD of steroid charge of 9-99 years anyday!
I should be a hitman :0)
Fuckin laws are stupid!

9-99?? Are you kididng me. That has to be a joke.

I have NEVER seen a law that had an indeterminante sentencing range up to 99 years.


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« Reply #119 on: June 02, 2008, 05:53:50 PM »

From PBW Radio...

Craig Titus

2nd degree murder....

person is under the influence
or
a crime of passion

Minimum of 10 years to 25 years, but he can get parole, whereas in first degree murder, no possibility of parole?



It will be interesting if we can get a transcript of this plea?


First degree kidnapping WITHOUT substantial harm? Is another huge plus for Titus in the plea deal?


They are saying that it was a SEVEN hour negotiations for this plea deal?



There is a chance that the judge will punish them even more than what the law says.

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« Reply #120 on: June 02, 2008, 07:09:58 PM »


It will be interesting if we can get a transcript of this plea?



It will be filed with the court clerk, if not already.

We need someone to go to the NV court house and pull the plea doc and post it. It may be online if they allow online access (most courts dont for criminal cases).
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« Reply #121 on: June 02, 2008, 09:56:03 PM »

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« Reply #122 on: June 05, 2008, 05:24:16 PM »

  I feel very sorry for the girl that died, but I also feel very sorry for Titus. Anyone, no matter how moral, can lose their minds and do something like this in a moment of extreme anger. It is a very scary thought that we can completley ruin our lives forever for losing control of our behavior for a single minute. As for being sentenced to prison, I would just try to escape with all my might and, if not possible, I would just hang myself. No way would I go to prison knowing what would happen to me. How can a heterosexual man keep going on living after losing his manhood, dignity and ownership of his own body? Even if there were no rape in prison, I still wouldn't be able to spend 30 years in a cell the size of a small bathroom. Suicide would be the only way out.
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« Reply #123 on: June 05, 2008, 10:58:55 PM »

YOU probably couldn't pull it off.  Craig is a mastermind.  You'd take the "Big Bitch".

I can't believe I posted this a day before Davids deal.
gggeeeezzzzz

Makes people wonder if someone could pull off anything.
dangerious world
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« Reply #124 on: June 06, 2008, 09:43:39 AM »

Cocaine is a hell of a drug.
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