1999 British GP

[England_1]

Ronnie isn't flexing his back in that pic, you dipshit. Guess what? Dorian's back looks the same when relaxed except smaller.

if you want to see striations in Ronnie's lats, here you go.

Oh? Jay has striations in his back doing the same exact pose  Stop posting shots of Coleman in a different pose, I could care less. Didn't you chastise ND for about 500 posts about how Yates had "loose skin" in one pose and then he posted different poses to prove otherwise? 2003 Coleman was a sack of shit. Bloated, fat, and pregnant. Jay's lower body is also killing Coleman's in that shot.

[NeoSeminole]

Oh? Jay has striations in his back doing the same exact pose

spare me your wink, you fairy. Here are your exact words:

Not a single striation in his lats.

you cannot make a dumb comment like that about a relaxed back pose. No bodybuilder - NOT even Dorian - has striations in their lats when standing relaxed. I posted a shot of Ronnie from the same year to show he did have striations when he flexed. So shove that up your ass.

[England_1]

spare me your wink, you fairy. Here are your exact words:

you cannot make a dumb comment like that about a relaxed back pose. No bodybuilder - NOT even Dorian - has striations in their lats when standing relaxed. I posted a shot of Ronnie from the same year to show he did have striations when he flexed. So shove that up your ass.

Coleman isn't relaxed in that pose, idiot 

Bottom line - Jay fucking Cutler has striations in his lats in the same pose and Coleman doesn't - pithy.

And while we're on the matter of 2003, we might as well remember this disaster

[NeoSeminole]

Coleman isn't relaxed in that pose, idiot

Bottom line - Jay fucking Cutler has striations in his lats in the same pose and Coleman doesn't - pithy.

bwahahahaha, you're so f*cking retarded. They aren't doing the same pose. Ronnie is standing relaxed with is arms out while Jay is flexing his lats. Notice Ronnie's traps aren't scrunched up but Jay's are? That should tell you Jay is pulling his arms back to flex his lats.

[England_1]

bwahahahaha, you're so f*cking retarded. They aren't doing the same pose. Ronnie is standing relaxed with is arms out while Jay is flexing his lats. Notice Ronnie's traps aren't scrunched up but Jay's are? That should tell you Jay is pulling his arms back to flex his lats.

Aren't you also the idiot that said Coleman's calves were as big as Jay's? LOL. Jay's calves are atleast 2-3" thicker there.

And Ronnie IS flexing there. Unfortunately for him nothing is happening haha.

[NeoSeminole]

And while we're on the matter of 2003, we might as well remember this disaster

get the f*ck out of here with that shit. Anyone can find unflattering pics of any bodybuilder. Here are embarrassing shots of your hero, Dorian Yates, at his supposed prime.

[NeoSeminole]

Aren't you also the idiot that said Coleman's calves were as big as Jay's? LOL. Jay's calves are atleast 2-3" thicker there.

umm, excuse me? How am I an idiot when I have more brainpower than 10 of you put together? I did say Ronnie's calves in 03 were as big as Jay's and backed it up with visual evidence.

[England_1]

Moron, congrats on just owning yourself. Look at the flexed right calf of Coleman and the left calf of Jay's. Jay's appears 1-2" thicker, maybe more. Coleman's calf is non-existent. Damn you are an idiot.

[NeoSeminole]

Moron, congrats on just owning yourself. Look at the flexed right calf of Coleman and the left calf of Jay's. Jay's appears 1-2" thicker, maybe more. Coleman's calf is non-existent. Damn you are an idiot.

where do you come up with a 1-2" difference? Also, Ronnie's calves never displayed much definition when he pressed down on his toes. You assume the separation displayed by the gastrocnemius is equivalent to size. Furthermore, I could use your own logic against you and say "look at the left calf of Ronnie and the right calf of Jay. Ronnie's appears larger if not the same size."

[England_1]

where do you come up with a 1-2" difference? Also, Ronnie's calves never displayed much definition when he pressed down on his toes. You assume the separation displayed by the gastrocnemius is equivalent to size. Furthermore, I could use your own logic against you and say "look at the left calf of Ronnie and the right calf of Jay. Ronnie's appears larger if not the same size."

Are you denying that Jay's flexed calf is significantly thicker and more defined than Coleman's flexed calf? If so, I think you need to retire from this thread.

[NeoSeminole]

Are you denying that Jay's flexed calf is significantly thicker and more defined than Coleman's flexed calf? If so, I think you need to retire from this thread.

way to avoid the question by asking another question.

[England_1]

way to avoid the question by asking another question.

Translation: I know Jay's calf is 3x thicker and more defined than Ronnie's, even at 290lbs.

hahahahahahah

[brian36]

Why is everyone debating with England....he's clearly insane.  Even though I disagree with him, ND at least has a logically, albiet biased, based mind.

[England_1]

Why is everyone debating with England....he's clearly insane.  Even though I disagree with him, ND at least has a logically, albiet biased, based mind.

Actually, I am about as objective as it gets. If you think Coleman's calf is the same size or thickness as Jay's here you are on crack, as Ronnie would say.

[NarcissisticDeity]

yawn, we've already been through this. Ronnie has better muscular bulk, symmetry, definition, shape, and fullness. If we compare 03 Ronnie to 95 Dorian (arguably their respective primes), the difference in size is greater than the difference in conditioning. Ronnie outweighs Dorian by 30 lbs and there is no way in hell that was all water.

Umm we've been through this and 2003 is NOT his ummm respective prime  and neither is 1995 for Yates that was his prime Olympia showing

so come back and play when you have a clue on what you're talking about mmmmmm-k 


lol 2003 respective prime he he he he he

[NarcissisticDeity]

see, if you had a brain you would see that this is NOT an ad populum argument.

an ad populum argument is an appeal simply based on numbers not facts (eg believe in God).

most everyone feels Ronnie beats yates because when the criteria are applied properly, he wins by a landslide.

you are not applying the criteria correctly at all, and you are mistaking the fact that you are wrong for everyone else being stupid and simply saying that Ronnnie beats yates just because everyone else does. this is NOT what is happening.

eg. you claim dorian has an advantage in muscular bulk when they are the same size and weight at the bests (both 257 (93 vs 99) and same height.

you claim dorian has better proportions when everyone can see he has piss poor small arms for his frame, a super thick non-bodybuilding type waist, and calves oversized for his frame. Ronnie has a much more classical frame, with a trim waist, great quad sweep, fantastic muscle shape. he looks like a classic champion bodybuilder. Yates looks like a fridge, or, even better as someone put it "a pile of dogshit that someone stirred up with twigs" LOL

you claim dorian was better conditioned, yet we have all shown a billion times that Ronnie at his best can match if not suprass him in the conditioning department.

so you see, you are not applying the criteria correctly.

the rest of the bb community are. and we prove it with pic after pic and video after video.

period.

its not ad populum.

its dumb ND.

simple as that.

meltdown 

and epic denial

argument ad populum says a popular opinion does NOT I repeat does NOT make it correct only popular

most everyone feels that peak ronnie was miles above dorian for a damn good reason

this is your quote and its classic faulty logic and proves only how stupid you are , appeals to numbers which you reply on will only be laughed at

and you'd have to know how bodybuilding is judged before you can commit to an argument on why he would win , you never knew and still don't know all rounds are physique rounds , you also dismissed Dorian's conditioning as a ' myth ' you and your super abilities came to the conclusion Dorian lost the 1993 Mr Olympia and Ronnie ' dominated ' in 2001 which shows your absolute IGNORANCE about how competitive bodybuilding is judged lol you claimed Dorian lost in 1995 as well LMMFAO what do you know about competitive bodybuilding? NOTHING

Hulkster = stupid

[Emmortal]

I keep trying to not click on this thread.

[Hulkster]

meltdown 

and epic denial

argument ad populum says a popular opinion does NOT I repeat does NOT make it correct only popular

most everyone feels that peak ronnie was miles above dorian for a damn good reason

this is your quote and its classic faulty logic and proves only how stupid you are , appeals to numbers which you reply on will only be laughed at

and you'd have to know how bodybuilding is judged before you can commit to an argument on why he would win , you never knew and still don't know all rounds are physique rounds , you also dismissed Dorian's conditioning as a ' myth ' you and your super abilities came to the conclusion Dorian lost the 1993 Mr Olympia and Ronnie ' dominated ' in 2001 which shows your absolute IGNORANCE about how competitive bodybuilding is judged lol you claimed Dorian lost in 1995 as well LMMFAO what do you know about competitive bodybuilding? NOTHING

Hulkster = stupid

sigh.

you just don't get it ND.

I am not appealing to numbers.
I am appearling to real live visual support.


you are mixing up an ad populum argument (no support/proof - just going along with the crowd no matter what) with a well documented and well supported argument (that happens to be popular because of good judgment and correct application of conventional criteria of modern bodybuilding)

you don't seem to understand the distinction.

and somehow I doubt your McBrain ever will..

[NarcissisticDeity]

sigh.

you just don't get it ND.

I am not appealing to numbers.
I am appearling to real live visual support.


you are mixing up an ad populum argument (no support/proof - just going along with the crowd no matter what) with a well documented and well supported argument (that happens to be popular because of good judgment and correct application of conventional criteria of modern bodybuilding)

you don't seem to understand the distinction.

and somehow I doubt your McBrain ever will..

Moron this is a textbook example of argument ad populum

most everyone feels that peak ronnie was miles above dorian for a damn good reason

and real life visual support would mean you were there in REAL LIFE and you weren't and your opinion is based on ignorance you're an idiot you claimed Dorian lost in 1993 to Flex Wheeler , Dorian lost in 1995 and Ronnie dominated in 2001 again what do you know about competitive bodybuilding? NOTHING at all

you're an idiot because you have no argument and you think you do and your proof is popular opinion and inaccurate means .and when confronted with facts you start in with the ad hominem attacks  I laugh at your ignorance because you're to proud to admit you're wrong they say ignorance is bliss , you are the happiest man on GetBig

[Hulkster]

lol the idiot who gets owned on every thread he posts in by lots of different people is saying that someone else knows nothing about bodybuilding

lol

 

[NarcissisticDeity]

lol the idiot who gets owned on every thread he posts in by lots of different people is saying that someone else knows nothing about bodybuilding

lol

 

LMMFAO what is your fucking response? more of the same shit !! this is a classic post you're response is exactly my whole point more of the argument ad populum there is NO FUCKING WAY you're college educated no way lol

by lots of different people

see appeal to numbers you fool lol

YOU Hulkster the insanely stupid Canadian know NOTHING about competitive bodybuilding nothing what so ever when you wrote that Dorian lost the 1993 Mr Olympia this is proof positive you don't have a fucking clue period end of sentence , couple that with 1995 Yates lost , and Dorian's conditioning was a myth and Ronnie dominated the 2001 Mr Olympia

my knowledge of competitive bodybuilding kills yours !

[BEAST 8692]

ronnie's speech was as awesome as his physique.

[Hulkster]

ND just doesn't undestand that when everyone owns him its for a good reason.

he is not applying criteria correctly and comes accross as an idiot as a result.

it has nothing to do with numbers, despite what he thinks. he has only to do with incorrect application of simple conventional standards.

but trying telling him that...

 

I guess years at McDonalds can really close the mind and dull the intellect..

[NarcissisticDeity]

ND just doesn't undestand that when everyone owns him its for a good reason.

he is not applying criteria correctly and comes accross as an idiot as a result.

it has nothing to do with numbers, despite what he thinks. he has only to do with incorrect application of simple conventional standards.

but trying telling him that...

 

I guess years at McDonalds can really close the mind and dull the intellect..

Continue on with the ad hominem attacks this again proves your ignorance and desperation and I always laugh at your pleas for others to agree with you as some half-ass validation of your ' opinion ' somehow being right

everything you type is an appeal to numbers , and when your pressed on your bullshit you start with the personal attacks I could work at McDonalds and I'd still know that Dorian didn't lose the 1993 Mr Olympia , I'd still know that Dorian didn't lose the 1995 Mr Olympia , I'd still know that Ronnie didn't dominate the 2001 Mr Olympia lol again more faulty logic if you work at McDonalds you can't know anything about competitive bodybuilding by my insanely stupid ' college ' educated buddy Hulkster has proven he knows absolutely NOTHING about competitive bodybuilding lol more stupid logic

you're an idiot and I will continue to expose you for it . 

[NarcissisticDeity]

ND just doesn't undestand that when everyone owns him its for a good reason.

he is not applying criteria correctly and comes accross as an idiot as a result.

it has nothing to do with numbers, despite what he thinks. he has only to do with incorrect application of simple conventional standards.

but trying telling him that...

 

I guess years at McDonalds can really close the mind and dull the intellect..

Hulkster = pwned