Author Topic: alternative to caffine and eph for pre work out use (Read 2106 times)

skyline · « **on:** August 07, 2008, 03:31:59 AM »

is there an alternative to epherdrine and caffine for a pre work out stimulant?

i like using them both but feel i can't eat as much when i'm on them..... $:-\$

just need something to get me fired up before my workouts

thanks

Van_Bilderass · « **Reply #1 on:** August 07, 2008, 04:02:45 AM »

Stimulants are generally anorectic so I doubt there's anything that will give significant boost without appetite suppressing effects.

Anyone try sulbutiamine BTW? Haven't tried it but will soon.

Overload · « **Reply #2 on:** August 07, 2008, 08:27:04 AM »

Ammonia caps!

Van_Bilderass · « **Reply #3 on:** August 07, 2008, 08:34:36 AM »

Quote from: Overload on August 07, 2008, 08:27:04 AM

Ammonia caps!

Caps are too weak! At least the one's I tried. I smell from a bottle.

Overload · « **Reply #4 on:** August 07, 2008, 08:54:25 AM »

Quote from: Van_Bilderass on August 07, 2008, 08:34:36 AM

Caps are too weak! At least the one's I tried. I smell from a bottle.

Now THAT is hardcore!

4thAD · « **Reply #5 on:** August 07, 2008, 11:03:52 AM »

Albuterol, pre work out works really good. Its short acting, so it should not suppress your appetite. I'm not talking about the inhalers, either. Liquid, or tabs work really well, and easy to obtain legally. Much better than clen IMO, and easier and safer on your heart.

benz · « **Reply #6 on:** August 07, 2008, 11:12:31 AM »

Quote from: Van_Bilderass on August 07, 2008, 04:02:45 AM

Stimulants are generally anorectic so I doubt there's anything that will give significant boost without appetite suppressing effects.

Anyone try sulbutiamine BTW? Haven't tried it but will soon.

if this is the same one made by grunenthal, then yes, 400mg/day, good to study, caused me headaches mixed with eca, but it was the perfect mix to stay up all night long and pass the exams @ uni. The crash was awful though....

Knives · « **Reply #7 on:** August 07, 2008, 11:22:17 AM »

Quote from: benz on August 07, 2008, 11:12:31 AM

if this is the same one made by grunenthal, then yes, 400mg/day, good to study, caused me headaches mixed with eca, but it was the perfect mix to stay up all night long and pass the exams @ uni. The crash was awful though....

why not just use adderrall?

CAPTAIN INSANO · « **Reply #8 on:** August 07, 2008, 12:55:26 PM »

Quote from: benz on August 07, 2008, 11:12:31 AM

caused me headaches mixed with eca,

I am experiencing really brutal headaches, which forced me to stop the ECA.

Will try Yohimbe now, however.

Van_Bilderass · « **Reply #9 on:** August 07, 2008, 01:02:48 PM »

Quote from: benz on August 07, 2008, 11:12:31 AM

if this is the same one made by grunenthal, then yes, 400mg/day, good to study, caused me headaches mixed with eca, but it was the perfect mix to stay up all night long and pass the exams @ uni. The crash was awful though....

Yes seems like there is such a product by that manufacturer, brand name Arcalion?
It's a Vitamin B1 analogue, not scheduled and sold as a nutritional supplement too.

Quote from: Knives on August 07, 2008, 11:22:17 AM

why not just use adderrall?

Amphetamines should not be taken lightly.

Overload · « **Reply #10 on:** August 07, 2008, 02:43:14 PM »

Quote from: Van_Bilderass on August 07, 2008, 01:02:48 PM

Amphetamines should not be taken lightly.

I took that stuff all through college.

It helps, but it's like Meth in more ways than one.

When taken for too long, it can fuck you up, mainly if you do not NEED it.

tolliscd · « **Reply #11 on:** August 07, 2008, 08:40:05 PM »

Take 4000mgs of L-Tyrosine a free form amino acid. this helps me sometimes when i take time off ECA. Also an earlier question. Sibutramine (slimex) anyone tried? how does it work. I have access but want feedback first

jtsunami · « **Reply #12 on:** August 07, 2008, 10:32:14 PM »

Quote from: skyline on August 07, 2008, 03:31:59 AM

is there an alternative to epherdrine and caffine for a pre work out stimulant?

i like using them both but feel i can't eat as much when i'm on them..... $:-\$

just need something to get me fired up before my workouts

thanks

have you tried coke pre workout, I know some ppl swear by it.

Hereford · « **Reply #13 on:** August 09, 2008, 11:23:22 AM »

Coke as in cocaine?

no one · « **Reply #14 on:** August 09, 2008, 11:58:06 PM »

taurine and ginseng.

abc123 · « **Reply #15 on:** August 10, 2008, 02:55:41 AM »

Quote from: jtsunami on August 07, 2008, 10:32:14 PM

have you tried coke pre workout, I know some ppl swear by it.

I have significant experience from years ago and could not think of a more awful way to spend a workout. Not only is it very bad for you and risky for the heart, it can't be pleasant. If you forced me I'd do ephedrine first, but I'm over that as well.

One should learn to psycologically prep themself prior to heading to the gym to muster the necessary intensity - without stimulants. If you can't do that you are a weak minded pu$$y - no offense.

Knives · « **Reply #16 on:** August 10, 2008, 05:36:55 AM »

Quote from: no one on August 09, 2008, 11:58:06 PM

taurine and ginseng.

do those do anything?

no one · « **Reply #17 on:** August 10, 2008, 12:56:44 PM »

Quote from: Knives on August 10, 2008, 05:36:55 AM

do those do anything?

they do for me.

AVBG · « **Reply #18 on:** August 10, 2008, 01:08:27 PM »

MHP Dren

flexingtonsteele · « **Reply #19 on:** August 10, 2008, 01:49:20 PM »

make a strong cup of coffee

no one · « **Reply #20 on:** August 10, 2008, 06:21:08 PM »

Quote from: flexingtonsteele on August 10, 2008, 01:49:20 PM

make a strong cup of coffee

the thread says 'alternative to caffeine'...

flexingtonsteele · « **Reply #21 on:** August 10, 2008, 08:48:58 PM »

well actually is says alternative to caffiene and ephedrine.

So just take out the ephedrine and just have a strong cup of joe!

Author Topic: alternative to caffine and eph for pre work out use (Read 2106 times)

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