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« Reply #200 on: July 26, 2008, 11:44:23 AM » |
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Wanted to know has anyone here actually been to a Tyson fight live. Seeing him in his prime was unreal. I sat in the 5th row for the Bruno fight and you could literally hear the punch and the grunt from Bruno. In person there is nothing like watching him fight. And that fight was fixed too. We were about 99% sure of it.
Didn't he break Bruno's jaw and his ribs? I think I remember Bruno having to get his mouth wired shut? Regarding Buster Douglas, I think Tyson had already hired Don King at that point, fired Rooney, etc. That was the beginning of the end for Tyson. |
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« Reply #201 on: July 26, 2008, 01:11:32 PM » |
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holyfield in his prime beats them both
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« Reply #202 on: July 26, 2008, 03:57:01 PM » |
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holyfield in his prime beats them both
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« Reply #203 on: July 26, 2008, 03:58:02 PM » |
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holyfield in his prime beats them both
Holyfield is definitely one of my all time favorites. Biggest heart in the sport. But no way he'd out box Ali. Holyfield beat a beaten Mike Tyson. |
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« Reply #204 on: July 26, 2008, 04:14:23 PM » |
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Prop em up and he's still kick Tysons ass. TODAY! Tyson= the most overated boxer for non boxing fans and kids who think they are. Look back in history and watch Jack Johnson, Joe Frazer, Joe Louis, Jack Dempsy. The list goes on and on. Try looking up some boxing history before you put Tyson on a pedestal.
Iron Mike would have beaten all these guys. Not taking anything away from Joe Louis. Louis and Ali are neck and neck for greatness and what they did for for the sport. 180# Jack Demsey? Tyson would do a 90 second job on him, badly. I was never a Tyson fan. But I'm a boxing fan my whole life. The guy was awesome. |
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« Reply #205 on: July 26, 2008, 05:08:01 PM » |
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Check out this Tyson highlight clip. Remember when he said he threw "every punch with bad intentions"? Remember when he literally knocked Berbick silly with one hook to the head? (That one is one here.) I don't remember a heavyweight who ever hit this hard. Such a tragedy. So much potential. What a waste. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMrYmshl82Y&feature=related |
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« Reply #206 on: July 27, 2008, 05:38:26 AM » |
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Tyson had those idiots in his corner during the Douglas fight too. I judged a bikini contest in Ft, Meyers Florida with Trevor Berbick. he was fighting his first fight after he lost to Tyson. He sounded really dumb and his trainer told he lost because he had a cold or flu during the fight.
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« Reply #207 on: July 27, 2008, 05:04:10 PM » |
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Check out this Tyson highlight clip. Remember when he said he threw "every punch with bad intentions"? Remember when he literally knocked Berbick silly with one hook to the head? (That one is one here.) I don't remember a heavyweight who ever hit this hard. Such a tragedy. So much potential. What a waste. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMrYmshl82Y&feature=relatedwow those were some top notch opponent's ::)holyfield fought higher level of competition than Tyson or Ali |
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« Reply #208 on: July 27, 2008, 05:24:14 PM » |
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wow those were some top notch opponent's ::)holyfield fought higher level of competition than Tyson or Ali
when you finish swinging off of Holyfield's nuts...kill yourself |
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« Reply #209 on: July 27, 2008, 06:27:56 PM » |
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wow those were some top notch opponent's ::)holyfield fought higher level of competition than Tyson or Ali
There have not been "top notch" heavyweights since Ali's days. Holyfield fought the same kind of dogs that Tyson did. Which of Holyfield's opponents do you put in the class of Foreman, Frazier, Norton, and Shavers? |
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« Reply #210 on: July 27, 2008, 07:08:17 PM » |
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people think ali is the greatest because they were told he was the greatest.it doesnt make it so.why no rematch with forman?because ali was smart enough to know he wouldnt fall for the rope a dope agin.ken norton beat ali as frazier did but you ever see those fights replayed just the fights he won. ali fought three or four fighters worth mentioning.I own dvds of about twenty ali fights some of which he obviously lost but judges gave him, most people havent even watched more than 2-3 of his fights tops they just go by what the media tells them.
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« Reply #211 on: July 27, 2008, 09:52:02 PM » |
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people think ali is the greatest because they were told he was the greatest.it doesnt make it so.why no rematch with forman?because ali was smart enough to know he wouldnt fall for the rope a dope agin.ken norton beat ali as frazier did but you ever see those fights replayed just the fights he won. ali fought three or four fighters worth mentioning.I own dvds of about twenty ali fights some of which he obviously lost but judges gave him, most people havent even watched more than 2-3 of his fights tops they just go by what the media tells them.
I've watched a bunch of Ali fights. Which of Holyfield's opponents do you put in the class of Foreman, Frazier, Norton, and Shavers? |
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« Reply #212 on: July 27, 2008, 11:23:33 PM » |
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I've watched a bunch of Ali fights.
Which of Holyfield's opponents do you put in the class of Foreman, Frazier, Norton, and Shavers?
Iron Mike of course |
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« Reply #213 on: July 28, 2008, 02:28:02 PM » |
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I've watched a bunch of Ali fights.
Which of Holyfield's opponents do you put in the class of Foreman, Frazier, Norton, and Shavers?
we could argue all day about which fighters might be better than others but holyfield fought anyone and everyone during his era the overall list of opponets is stronger than ali.off the top of my head,Michael dokes,busterdouglas,georgeforman,johnruiz,larryholmes,riddickbowe,michaelmoorer,raymercer,miketyson, lennoxlewis.thats just the ones i can think of sure theres more. |
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« Reply #214 on: July 28, 2008, 02:44:09 PM » |
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Iron Mike of course
True, except Mike was already with Don King at that point. |
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« Reply #215 on: July 28, 2008, 02:46:46 PM » |
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we could argue all day about which fighters might be better than others but holyfield fought anyone and everyone during his era the overall list of opponets is stronger than ali.off the top of my head,Michael dokes,busterdouglas,georgeforman,johnruiz,larryholmes,riddickbowe,michaelmoorer,raymercer,miketyson, lennoxlewis.thats just the ones i can think of sure theres more.
I've seen all of those guys fight and none of them were great IMO (at least when they fought Holyfield). Douglas was a one hit wonder. Foreman was old and fat when he fought Holyfield. So was Holmes. Riddick Bowe had skills, but was never a great fighter. Michael Moorer was never really a true heavyweight IMO. But you're right about arguing about this all day. Different people have different perceptions. |
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« Reply #216 on: July 29, 2008, 07:19:27 AM » |
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I've watched a bunch of Ali fights.
Which of Holyfield's opponents do you put in the class of Foreman, Frazier, Norton, and Shavers?
Well done Beach Bum. When I was a kid, Ernie Shavers was my favorite fighter b/c he had such heavy hands. |
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« Reply #217 on: July 29, 2008, 10:45:49 PM » |
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Well done Beach Bum. When I was a kid, Ernie Shavers was my favorite fighter b/c he had such heavy hands.
Ernie Shavers was scary. Do you guys think Tyson could have knocked out Randell Tex Cobb. He could take a punch bigtime. I met him a few times in the club I worked at and he really does have the biggest head of any human I have seen except for Andre the Giant. |
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« Reply #218 on: August 02, 2008, 11:11:20 AM » |
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Ernie Shavers was scary. Do you guys think Tyson could have knocked out Randell Tex Cobb. He could take a punch bigtime. I met him a few times in the club I worked at and he really does have the biggest head of any human I have seen except for Andre the Giant.
Don't forget Scott Ledoux (the "Fighting Frenchman") AKA "the Human Punching Bag http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=11928&more=1"The Fighting Frenchman: Scott LeDoux 02.08.07 - By Ted Sares: Scott LeDoux was a road warrior out of Minnesota who fought the very best during the golden age of heavyweights in the 70s. Big boppers like Frazier, Ali, Quarry, Norton, Foreman, Shavers, Chuvalo, Terrell, Mike Weaver, Jeff Merritt, Mac Foster, Joe Bugner, Leroy Jones, Jimmy Young, and Jimmy Ellis, among many others, roamed the landscape..." |
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« Reply #219 on: August 12, 2008, 10:23:50 AM » |
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YOU ARE KIDDING, RIGHT?
Ali would have won the fight at the press conference.
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