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Washington made a Deal over Srebrenica
« on: August 01, 2008, 01:28:30 AM »
very interesting!

I doubt anyone will care. I still find it interesting.

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Bosnia's former foreign minister confirms Radovan Karadzic's claim at The Hague tribunal that Richard Holbrooke made a deal over Srebrenica for Dayton accords to privatise the resources of the former Yugoslavia

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Re: Washington made a Deal over Srebrenica
« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2008, 08:10:30 AM »
Thanks. this is something many people over there thought already. Interesting for sure.

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Re: Washington made a Deal over Srebrenica
« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2008, 12:16:06 PM »
Not in the least and that was a Dem run operation...
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Re: Washington made a Deal over Srebrenica
« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2008, 06:19:17 PM »
Not in the least and that was a Dem run operation...

Actually that was a NATO operation. Let's be accurate here shall we?
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Re: Washington made a Deal over Srebrenica
« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2008, 06:22:49 PM »
Actually that was a NATO operation. Let's be accurate here shall we?

Then the War in Iraq is a muli-national coalition of the willing....cake....eat.
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Re: Washington made a Deal over Srebrenica
« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2008, 06:25:29 PM »
No chance of a fair trial, Karadzic says in first statement



Radovan Karadzic, the former Bosnian Serb warlord awaiting trial for genocide, says that high-ranking officials in the 1990s US administration of Bill Clinton want him dead and that it will be impossible for him to receive a fair trial after 12 years on the run ended with his arrest last week, it emerged yesterday.

"No one on earth believes in the possibility of an acquittal," Karadzic argued in a four-page statement which he was prevented from reading to the war crimes tribunal in The Hague on Thursday at a pre-trial hearing. "Others from President Clinton's team ... are in a hurry to see me dead."

Karadzic said that several months after the Bosnian war ended in November 1995, Richard Holbrooke, the US envoy who engineered the peace settlement at Dayton in Ohio, made the genocide suspect an offer.

"The offer was as follows: I must withdraw not only from public but also from party offices and completely disappear from the public arena."

Karadzic, who was head of the main Serbian party in Bosnia and president of the self-proclaimed Serbian republic in half of Bosnia, was indicted for genocide and crimes against humanity in 1995.

He retired from politics a year later and vanished until he was arrested on a bus in Belgrade in Serbia last week disguised as a long-haired alternative medicine aficionado.

"Holbrooke undertook on behalf of the USA that I would not be tried before this tribunal," Karadzic wrote in the first statement prepared for his defence against 11 counts of genocide and extermination of Bosnia's Muslims as well as crimes against humanity and war crimes. The statement was released yesterday by the tribunal in The Hague.

The allegations of a secret deal between Holbrooke and Karadzic have circulated in the Balkans for years and the American has repeatedly dismissed them contemptuously over the past week while stating that Karadzic is a mass murderer who deserves the death penalty.

"It's an invented story and no one ought to believe it," Holbrooke said.

"What I said was, 'If anyone deserves the death penalty, it's Karadzic and Mladic,'" Holbrooke said, referring to Karadzic's top military commander, Ratko Mladic, who is still a fugitive.

Karadzic added that Madeleine Albright, Clinton's secretary of state, told Biljana Plavsic, Karadazic's successor as Bosnian Serb leader - who is serving an 11-year sentence for war crimes after plea-bargaining and confessing her guilt - that Karadzic should go away to "Russia, Greece or Serbia".

Karadzic claimed that the Hague tribunal defied US pressure to drop the case against himself, causing Holbrooke to "switch to Plan B - the liquidation of Radovan Karadzic".

Accused of being responsible for the murder of tens of thousands of mainly Muslims in Bosnia, Karadzic said he now feared for his own life.

"Mr Holbrooke's wish for my disappearance ... is today still fresher and stronger and the actions aimed at bringing this about are tireless."

Unlike previous high-profile Serbian war crimes suspects at the tribunal, Karadzic did not query the court's legitimacy and said he wanted to surrender in the 1990s but felt cheated by tribunal investigators.

He insisted to the court on Thursday that he would defend himself and eschew any legal team. But tribunal sources say that privately he is signalling otherwise and could decide to employ well-known lawyers.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/aug/02/radovankaradzic.warcrimes

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Re: Washington made a Deal over Srebrenica
« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2008, 06:27:17 PM »
Is that tough guy pussy crying in that pic? lol

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Re: Washington made a Deal over Srebrenica
« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2008, 06:29:48 PM »
Is that tough guy pussy crying in that pic? lol

LOL...he's close!
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Re: Washington made a Deal over Srebrenica
« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2008, 06:30:03 PM »
I was there, I didn't care then and I don't care now....worthless waste of my time. I was with my guys on a small ass FOB. The first week we had no gym, I thought i was going to eat my 9mm, then they moved in a bunch of stuff Arnie bought, and it was all smiles.  That mission could not have been done without us. Nobody in Europe would budge unless we rolled in. The Brits did their part...but still a complete waste of time.
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Re: Washington made a Deal over Srebrenica
« Reply #9 on: August 01, 2008, 06:37:45 PM »
I was there, I didn't care then and I don't care now....worthless waste of my time. I was with my guys on a small ass FOB. The first week we had no gym, I thought i was going to eat my 9mm, then they moved in a bunch of stuff Arnie bought, and it was all smiles.  That mission could not have been done without us. Nobody in Europe would budge unless we rolled in. The Brits did their part...but still a complete waste of time.

I am not following you here.  Why was it a waste of time exactly?
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Re: Washington made a Deal over Srebrenica
« Reply #10 on: August 01, 2008, 06:43:06 PM »
We did nothing, we could stop nothing. Uncle Bill and his idiots didn't allow us to patrol with ammo....which we counted every 5 days, lest the guys trained to kill actually stop an atrocity. Most of those were over by then anyway. Waste of time and the damm muslims don't give us any credit for saving any of them.
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Re: Washington made a Deal over Srebrenica
« Reply #11 on: August 01, 2008, 07:02:44 PM »
Saddam may have been a scumbag but at least he had the balls to tell the courts to eat shit, even in the end, but this guy's crying like a girl even after all that tough talk years ago. lol It's just too bad we wont get to see him hang and piss himself, at least he'll rot in a jail cell for the rest of his life.

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Re: Washington made a Deal over Srebrenica
« Reply #12 on: August 01, 2008, 07:03:41 PM »
Saddam spent many days/nights crying in his cell, TRUST ME on this one.
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Re: Washington made a Deal over Srebrenica
« Reply #13 on: August 01, 2008, 07:06:11 PM »
Saddam may have been a scumbag but at least he had the balls to tell the courts to eat shit, even in the end, but this guy's crying like a girl even after all that tough talk years ago. lol It's just too bad we wont get to see him hang and piss himself, at least he'll rot in a jail cell for the rest of his life.

He's pissed he didn't kill more muslims.
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Re: Washington made a Deal over Srebrenica
« Reply #14 on: August 01, 2008, 07:07:47 PM »
Saddam spent many days/nights crying in his cell, TRUST ME on this one.

Looked pretty defiant to me, even with a rope around his neck. This guy hasn't even received a sentence and already unloaded in his pants.

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Re: Washington made a Deal over Srebrenica
« Reply #15 on: August 01, 2008, 07:10:10 PM »
He's pissed he didn't kill more muslims.

haha


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Re: Washington made a Deal over Srebrenica
« Reply #16 on: August 01, 2008, 07:11:24 PM »
Looked pretty defiant to me, even with a rope around his neck. This guy hasn't even received a sentence and already unloaded in his pants.

He was defiant but even in defiance a person hides fear.  Sometimes when we get to truly understand that our time of death is coming we can relax and become clear of mind and when Saddam was semi-yelling at those guards, he wasn't just yelling because they were chanting, he was yelling because he despised those people and they were getting their revenge on his ass, hence the defiance you witnessed.
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Re: Washington made a Deal over Srebrenica
« Reply #17 on: August 06, 2008, 11:12:41 AM »
CIA agents reportedly asked Karadzic not to reveal deal with US negotiator

CIA agents spoke with Radovan Karadzic immediately after his arrest, asking him not to reveal the deal with Former US negotiator Richard Holbrooke, a Serbian website reported.
Serbian Press Online wrote that CIA asked Karadzic not to mention his confidential contacts with people from the top of the Clinton administration. They also reportedly requested from the former leader of the Bosnian Serbs to tell The Hague tribunal everything he knew about fugitive General Ratko Mladic.

In return, the agents offered him a 40-year sentence in a luxury Swedish prison with all sorts of privileges. They guaranteed that his family would not have any problems in Serbia, the Bosnian Serb entity of Republika Srpska and Montenegro.

They also told him that if he does not agree, he would serve his sentence in the worst British prison, together with serial killers, drug dealers and rapists. They threatened him that he would be completely compromised in the Serbian public when they published edited homosexual porn footage, apart from continuing with severe pressure on his family to keep the deal a secret and went to extreme measures to ensure the Serb’s silence.

CIA agents talked with Karadzic several hours after his apprehension on 18 July, in a bus in Belgrade, according to Serbian Press Online.
According to AFP, Holbrooke said it was a grave mistake that Karadzic was not arrested after NATO forces deployed to Bosnia following the peace agreement. "He should have been arrested. His green Mercedes was parked in its parking spot outside his office for six months after (the 1995 Dayton peace agreement) each day. The NATO commander at the time refused to arrest him even though he had the authority to do so. It was a terrible mistake."

http://axisglobe.com/article.asp?article=1615