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Re: any of you neuro guys please help
« Reply #50 on: August 02, 2008, 03:07:49 PM »
So its only what YOU think?

C'mon....

Thanks for the props. I am not going. I refuse to wait five hours. I will wait for my personal doc and go to his office stright forward

...reality is independent of interpretation.

You believe facts are a matter of opinion and that's why your infantile political ideology permeates your thinking... you view the world through the rosy tint of willful ignorance.

You get robbed outside your bank... couldn't be because the economy is in the shitter, that's just a liberal media conspiracy.

You lived at the YMCA for six months after an injury and subsequent medical bills left you destitute... but you still denigrate "socialized" medicine; welfare and "handouts" because your stay at the government funded YMCA wasn't a handout... after all you are a "self-made man", right?

You post misleading anti-Obama pro-McCain bullshit every second day... why?

Can't you just accept a black president and imagine McCain is in office and the US is bankrupt... after all, you're so removed from reality as is, why not take that one extra step into full-blown delusion?


By the way, you would only have to wait an hour for free treatment in socialist Ireland.


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« Reply #51 on: August 02, 2008, 03:08:58 PM »
I'm really sorry to see you going through this. May I ask what have all these surgeries done as far as improving this condition? When I researched your condition, the consensus was that surgery was sort of controversial as a treatment modality. What , in your opinion , think causes the body to develop this syndrome. I know you said you were treated for Melanoma before and you had some sort of heart issue. Is there any possibility that any of the treatments or procedures for those problems caused some other part of your body to develop this neurology problem? If you were able to eventually get off all medications and get you're system detoxed and extremely healthy, do you think it would help at all? Again, I don't know these answers, but I do believe when the body and immune sytem are functioning at full capacity, it's hard to have too many health issues.

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« Reply #52 on: August 02, 2008, 03:44:50 PM »
bc luke, bc I feel we are all the same, I have paid for myself, many others can, too....why pay more for something I have always paid for?

because this is exactly why your health system sucks big time. That mentality.

Hey, how about operating on yourself to save some $? If your system is so good then why are you posting at a BB forum and not in the hospital right now?- getting free care?

Answer: because in the US too many believe in "look out for number 1 and F... the rest". Newsflash- it doesnt work. One day you- or someone close you know, or someone's circumstances change and WHAM, you cant look after number 1. Then what?

here's a tip: you're screwed. All for being selfish in the first place and taking the risk.

It's EXACTLY the same for insurance there which is why the legal system is bloated.

Time the US faced reality and put some forced responsibility into its social structure and stopped giving everyone too many choices.

It's one thing to be truly "free" but another to have to pay to cover off on the chance that your free actions may hurt or affect others. Until the govt steps in itll never change.

Currently this "free"- USA-USA-USA philosophy is utopian and outdated. You think the US is great?- it could be so much better through some compromise.


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« Reply #53 on: August 02, 2008, 04:34:51 PM »
Why take any chances?  You seem to be too much of the dare devil type.  ;D

Nah, just in the wrong places at the wrong times

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« Reply #54 on: August 02, 2008, 04:36:03 PM »
Is that just from overuse, whats the deal? What kind of surgeries? -- Lateral release of the median nerve?

I fell on icy steps and threw my right hand in back of me reflexively to buttress my fall...crunched my shoulder and wrist on the steps

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« Reply #55 on: August 02, 2008, 04:42:05 PM »
...reality is independent of interpretation.

You believe facts are a matter of opinion and that's why your infantile political ideology permeates your thinking... you view the world through the rosy tint of willful ignorance.

I don't get negatively weighted down by neg dogma, I have said before that those who contstantly lkanguish in negs, have a very hard time getting out of bed to get on with productivity.

You get robbed outside your bank... couldn't be because the economy is in the shitter, that's just a liberal media conspiracy.

Happens in good and bad times, kimosabe

You lived at the YMCA for six months after an injury and subsequent medical bills left you destitute... but you still denigrate "socialized" medicine; welfare and "handouts" because your stay at the government funded YMCA wasn't a handout... after all you are a "self-made man", right?

Absolutely.

I paid back EVERYTHING I owed to everyone, and continue to do so (donate to this day). And yes, I am self made. TOTALLY. Is that allowed where you are from (Mean, is it worth it to strike out on your opwn, or do you have a 75% tax...serious question)


You post misleading anti-Obama pro-McCain bullshit every second day... why?

How do you know it is misleading?

Some are lies, some not. Who knows? I hate socialist-slanted anybodies, in this case, OBAMA.


Can't you just accept a black president and imagine McCain is in office and the US is bankrupt... after all, you're so removed from reality as is, why not take that one extra step into full-blown delusion?

My reality is not your reality.

And we are not bankrupt, that is laughable.

I am civil with you, you cannot be with the insults. You do, again, lose your cred, kid.

By the way, you would only have to wait an hour for free treatment in socialist Ireland.

Again, it is, in no way, FREE.,

If it is, I question the training of your med staff.


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Re: any of you neuro guys please help
« Reply #56 on: August 02, 2008, 04:43:12 PM »
you should masterbate more often not less

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« Reply #57 on: August 02, 2008, 04:50:00 PM »
I'm really sorry to see you going through this.

Thanks, pal. Its really starting to get to me.

 May I ask what have all these surgeries done as far as improving this condition?

Well, orthopedically, they have stabilized the three injured joints (Right wrist, elbow and shoulder. Neurologically wise, they have stoked the painful fires of neurological torture!

When I researched your condition, the consensus was that surgery was sort of controversial as a treatment modality.

Yes. I have had such a long history, and, have had stage 4 RSDS, so the prognosis is not often good. But I have had haltingly goodluck with remissions, they have most recently done a cervical sympathectomy to remove the splancnic chain of nerves in the neck that control sympathetics (Pain and sweat) to quell symptoms...I will post ex at bottom.

What , in your opinion , think causes the body to develop this syndrome.

No one really knows.

Lets say you break your hand. Your brain sends messages to the hand and back that you are injured, in pain, swelling, injury, healing ensues. This takes time. The reflex arc of transmission of these messages is at first lightening quick, but, as you heal, they low, to the point that the brain says, "Okay, you are healed, carry on."

With RSDS, those impulses sometimes never turn off....thus, even tho healed the swelling and pain can continue forever.


I know you said you were treated for Melanoma

Minor, on skin, successful!

 before and you had some sort of heart issue.

Cath  with stents recently

 Is there any possibility that any of the treatments or procedures for those problems caused some other part of your body to develop this neurology problem?

Poss, not likely

If you were able to eventually get off all medications and get you're system detoxed and extremely healthy, do you think it would help at all?

That, my friend, is the goal!  

Again, I don't know these answers, but I do believe when the body and immune sytem are functioning at full capacity, it's hard to have too many health issues.

Agree!


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« Reply #58 on: August 02, 2008, 04:51:16 PM »
looks normal to me.....

try wrapping a plastic bag over your head & seal it with duct tape

Or... take a deep breath and hold it for 20 minutes.



A nerve problem causing edema? Is that what i'm seeing?
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« Reply #59 on: August 02, 2008, 04:51:57 PM »
because this is exactly why your health system sucks big time. That mentality.

Hey, how about operating on yourself to save some $? If your system is so good then why are you posting at a BB forum and not in the hospital right now?- getting free care?

Answer: because in the US too many believe in "look out for number 1 and F... the rest". Newsflash- it doesnt work. One day you- or someone close you know, or someone's circumstances change and WHAM, you cant look after number 1. Then what?

here's a tip: you're screwed. All for being selfish in the first place and taking the risk.

It's EXACTLY the same for insurance there which is why the legal system is bloated.

Time the US faced reality and put some forced responsibility into its social structure and stopped giving everyone too many choices.

It's one thing to be truly "free" but another to have to pay to cover off on the chance that your free actions may hurt or affect others. Until the govt steps in itll never change.

Currently this "free"- USA-USA-USA philosophy is utopian and outdated. You think the US is great?- it could be so much better through some compromise.



You see, but you do not see.

Many here know me personally, many are actually my patients. More than ten, actually.

They could vouch I am not as you write.

I still prefer it here, friend.

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Re: any of you neuro guys please help
« Reply #60 on: August 02, 2008, 04:53:22 PM »
you should masterbate more often not less

It has kept me out of LOTS of trouble ;D

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« Reply #61 on: August 02, 2008, 04:54:15 PM »
Or... take a deep breath and hold it for 20 minutes.



A nerve problem causing edema? Is that what i'm seeing?

Hey TW, yes.

See then above article I posted for chem above.

RSDS

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Re: any of you neuro guys please help
« Reply #62 on: August 02, 2008, 04:55:49 PM »
Question for Moosejay: How many things = wrong with you now? It seems like you have heart issues, nerve problems, your intestine got fucked up, cracked shoulder. Are there more?

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« Reply #63 on: August 02, 2008, 04:57:12 PM »
In will make it back.

Both these bb shots were taken after my first comeback from RSDS (early 1990's)

second was at 36, after coming back from a shorter bout in late 1990's

It can be done.

I'll do it again

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« Reply #64 on: August 02, 2008, 04:59:39 PM »
My reality is not your reality.

...delusional much?

I paid back EVERYTHING I owed to everyone, and continue to do so (donate to this day). And yes, I am self made. TOTALLY. Is that allowed where you are from (Mean, is it worth it to strike out on your opwn, or do you have a 75% tax...serious question)

...and how is this different to socialist taxation?
Only billionaires would pay 75% in Ireland (and they get around it with offshore accounts): our minimum wage is about $11 an hour (now twice that of California state workers) and you have to earn significantly more than that before you pay ANY tax at all?

Dude, you're a political retard...


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« Reply #65 on: August 02, 2008, 05:02:46 PM »
Question for Moosejay: How many things = wrong with you now? It seems like you have heart issues, nerve problems, your intestine got fucked up, cracked shoulder. Are there more?

Head to toe history

Subdermal hematoma; 6 day coma
Cervical sympathectomy
Nasal polyps removed 5 times
4 rotator cuff surgical repairs, two each shoulder
Two cardia stents via catheterization
Right elbow surgery
Melanoma removal
6 wrist surgeries, 3 per wrist (one pending)
Lumbar sympathctomy
Spinal surgery
Hip surgery
Right knee surgery

Think that's it

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« Reply #66 on: August 02, 2008, 05:03:18 PM »
hahaha it's not stopping him from posting.

LOL   ;D

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« Reply #67 on: August 02, 2008, 05:04:05 PM »
...delusional much?

...and how is this different to socialist taxation?
Only billionaires would pay 75% in Ireland (and they get around it with offshore accounts): our minimum wage is about $11 an hour (now twice that of California state workers) and you have to earn significantly more than that before you pay ANY tax at all?

Dude, you're a political retard...


The Luke

You are not very tolerant of those different from you, Lucian

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« Reply #68 on: August 02, 2008, 05:06:06 PM »
LOL   ;D

what would you do if you were me?

Go out and play some Jai Alai? ;D

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« Reply #69 on: August 02, 2008, 05:18:56 PM »
You are not very tolerant of those different from you, Lucian

...epic evasion.

I just don't suffer fools gladly... you pollute these boards with your pseudo-religious republican bullshit but betray your own ignorance in every thread. Whenever anyone points out the error of your ways you simply defer the criticism back against the critic:
-ad hominem attacks
-evasion
-straw man arguments
-deliberate obfuscation
-arguments from authority
-arguments from popularity etc etc

...all the classic techniques used by the delusional.

You argue your political ideology the very same way religious people argue for religion and against evolution. You never discuss any argument on its merits... because your viewpoint doesn't have any.


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« Reply #70 on: August 02, 2008, 05:26:57 PM »
...epic evasion.

I just don't suffer fools gladly... you pollute these boards with your pseudo-religious republican bullshit but betray your own ignorance in every thread. Whenever anyone points out the error of your ways you simply defer the criticism back against the critic:
-ad hominem attacks
-evasion
-straw man arguments
-deliberate obfuscation
-arguments from authority
-arguments from popularity etc etc

...all the classic techniques used by the delusional.

You argue your political ideology the very same way religious people argue for religion and against evolution. You never discuss any argument on its merits... because your viewpoint doesn't have any.


The Luke

Dude, I am not religious

and I am not a blamer

I depend on myself, thank myself or blame myself.

You may be a political genius for all I know.

My path is directed by me, and, yes, I know little of politics.

Now you may sleep comfortably, ;D

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« Reply #71 on: August 02, 2008, 05:29:01 PM »
...epic evasion.

I just don't suffer fools gladly... you pollute these boards with your pseudo-religious republican bullshit but betray your own ignorance in every thread. Whenever anyone points out the error of your ways you simply defer the criticism back against the critic:
-ad hominem attacks
-evasion
-straw man arguments
-deliberate obfuscation
-arguments from authority
-arguments from popularity etc etc

...all the classic techniques used by the delusional.

You argue your political ideology the very same way religious people argue for religion and against evolution. You never discuss any argument on its merits... because your viewpoint doesn't have any.


The Luke
haha  good assessment 

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« Reply #72 on: August 02, 2008, 05:29:49 PM »
Dude, I am not religious
and I am not a blamer
I depend on myself, thank myself or blame myself.
You may be a political genius for all I know.
My path is directed by me, and, yes, I know little of politics.
Now you may sleep comfortably, ;D

Not until you promise to vote for Obama.


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« Reply #73 on: August 02, 2008, 05:34:12 PM »
Not until you promise to vote for Obama.


The Luke

Haha...can't promise ya that...I do like that he is only two years my senior!

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« Reply #74 on: August 02, 2008, 05:34:55 PM »
looks normal to me.....


try wrapping a plastic bag over your head & seal it with duct tape

thats not cool giving him bogus advice.  He should consult a Chiroprator right away, he probably needs a realignment.