U.S. (BUSH) extends Mexico truck program despite objections

[OzmO]

Has this happened during the pilot program so far? 

The article suggests it.

[Dos Equis]

The article suggests it.

Where?  Not this part: 

"American trucks were also allowed to operate in Mexico.

Ten U.S. carriers with 55 trucks and 27 Mexican carriers with 107 trucks have participated in the program as of July without incident, U.S. and Mexican officials said.

They also said vehicles participating in the program meet safety requirements." 

That sounds like it benefits us, because American trucks are allowed to operate in Mexico instead of offloading at the border and hiring Mexican drivers.

[OzmO]

Where?  Not this part: 

"American trucks were also allowed to operate in Mexico.

Ten U.S. carriers with 55 trucks and 27 Mexican carriers with 107 trucks have participated in the program as of July without incident, U.S. and Mexican officials said.

They also said vehicles participating in the program meet safety requirements." 

That sounds like it benefits us, because American trucks are allowed to operate in Mexico instead of offloading at the border and hiring Mexican drivers.

I thought you meant if the program is running.


Does it suggest those issues?

Anything a meixcan truck driver is hauling an American truck driver should be hauling.  Thats a given.  Americans should have the 1st option to benefit from work IN America.

-  This is outsourcing jobs IN the USA versus sending them oversees. True
-  There will be non-english speaking, non-english reading, non-state licensed drivers driving semi trucks all over our highways.  what part of that won't happen?
-  There likely to be a security risk involved whether it will be from the truck driver or what the truck driver is hauling.   Foreigners traveling unrestricted after 9/11?
-  It will directly take jobs away from US citizens in there own country and give them to foreigners. True

[Hugo Chavez]

Did you want me to talk to you? 
 

Are you a mexican trucker?

Are you a nipple whore?

Or do you just like female nipples in general?

I'll pic female nipples in general   Sorry.

[Dos Equis]

I thought you meant if the program is running.


Does it suggest those issues?

Anything a meixcan truck driver is hauling an American truck driver should be hauling.  Thats a given.  Americans should have the 1st option to benefit from work IN America.

-  This is outsourcing jobs IN the USA versus sending them oversees. True
-  There will be non-english speaking, non-english reading, non-state licensed drivers driving semi trucks all over our highways.  what part of that won't happen?
-  There likely to be a security risk involved whether it will be from the truck driver or what the truck driver is hauling.   Foreigners traveling unrestricted after 9/11?
-  It will directly take jobs away from US citizens in there own country and give them to foreigners. True

How is it outsourcing if American trucks are driving into Mexico?  That sounds like a trade off. 

I don't know if the drivers don't speak or read English, but you'd think they would have to at least read it in order to follow street signs, etc.  If they don't then I'd be concerned about that.   

We always allow foreigners to travel unrestricted.  That isn't new.  The article also says there hasn't been any safety issues.   

Aren't we saving American jobs, or least saving American companies money, by not having to hire Mexicans once our trucks get to the border? 

[OzmO]

How is it outsourcing if American trucks are driving into Mexico?  That sounds like a trade off. 

I don't know if the drivers don't speak or read English, but you'd think they would have to at least read it in order to follow street signs, etc.  If they don't then I'd be concerned about that.   

We always allow foreigners to travel unrestricted.  That isn't new.  The article also says there hasn't been any safety issues.   

Aren't we saving American jobs, or least saving American companies money, by not having to hire Mexicans once our trucks get to the border? 

Is it?   Or is it something else?

People driving semi trucks taking american jobs who don't speak or read our language bothers me.  Who knows what standards they follow, how they drive etc....  ?

not in semi trucks at the expense of american workers

We are benefiting Mexican workers at the expense of america  workers so those companies can realize more profit but not so much profit that they will do anything significant with it.   

[Dos Equis]

Is it?   Or is it something else?

People driving semi trucks taking american jobs who don't speak or read our language bothers me.  Who knows what standards they follow, how they drive etc....  ?

not in semi trucks at the expense of american workers

We are benefiting Mexican workers at the expense of america  workers so those companies can realize more profit but not so much profit that they will do anything significant with it.   

Sounds like we get the same benefit. 

[OzmO]

Sounds like we get the same benefit. 

Some one always gets a benefit.

[Dos Equis]

Some one always gets a benefit.

We have to, or it's not worth the effort.

I could see getting worked up over this if we were allowing their trucks and they weren't allowing ours, but that doesn't appear to be the case. 

[24KT]

We have to, or it's not worth the effort.

I could see getting worked up over this if we were allowing their trucks and they weren't allowing ours, but that doesn't appear to be the case. 

I can't believe you're unable to see what an advantage that is to Mexican trucking firms. 

[Dos Equis]

I can't believe you're unable to see what an advantage that is to Mexican trucking firms. 

It's an advantage to Mexican and U.S. trucking firms.   

[OzmO]

It's an advantage to Mexican and U.S. trucking firms.   

But not to American Truckers. A middle class profession.  And the benefit to American trucking companies will not amount to jack diddley as far as anyone is concerned except the trucking company who'll only enjoy increased profits at their expense because the US government got involved on their behalf.  It's a good example of the US government getting involved and hurting middle class workers.

Government involvement is good right? 

Is this something all the Obama detractors would accuse him of doing?

I'm sure McCain would never do something like this.

Oh wait, who ordered this?  A republican president?

This is great stuff.  thank you US government.  Thank you for looking out for your own.

[Dos Equis]

But not to American Truckers. A middle class profession.  And the benefit to American trucking companies will not amount to jack diddley as far as anyone is concerned except the trucking company who'll only enjoy increased profits at their expense because the US government got involved on their behalf.  It's a good example of the US government getting involved and hurting middle class workers.

Government involvement is good right? 

Is this something all the Obama detractors would accuse him of doing?

I'm sure McCain would never do something like this.

Oh wait, who ordered this?  A republican president?

This is great stuff.  thank you US government.  Thank you for looking out for your own.

I don't know much about the trucking industry.  Don't most "American Truckers" work for trucking companies? 

[24KT]

I don't know much about the trucking industry.  Don't most "American Truckers" work for trucking companies? 

Well, ...perhaps now they do. The skyhigh fuel prices are resulting in an estimated 1800 independent owner operators going out of business EVERY SINGLE DAY!

Independent owner operators don't get the large volume discounts that the large companies do. I talk to companies everyday that are paying 1.21 a gallon for fuel, while inde owner operators are paying upwards of $5 a gallon. Inde o/o are being squeezed out of the market, leaving only big corporations supported by large discounts and corporate welfare to fill the void.

[OzmO]

I don't know much about the trucking industry.  Don't most "American Truckers" work for trucking companies? 

Some do and some own their own rig and sub contract.

Many make a great a living raise families send kids to college.  You won't get rich being a trucker, but it's a good profession that's very necessary in the mainland.

[24KT]

Some do and some own their own rig and sub contract.

Many make a great a living raise families send kids to college.  You won't get rich being a trucker, but it's a good profession that's very necessary in the mainland.

They used to make a great living raising their families. If you got into trucking in the 80's... you got rich!
It's not the same nowadays. Everything has increased ...from the cost of trucks, insurance, maintenance, insurance, fuel etc., etc, ....everything except... the rates. there are some drivers who have had to dip into their own pockets simply to get the load to where it needs to go. Broker rates offered to drivers are still at 1980's levels and in many instances fuel surcharges charged are not passed on to the drivers as it should be. The industry is a mess,a nd 1800 drivers a day are parking their rigs and becoming company drivers until trucking becomes profitable again for the inde owner operator.

[Dos Equis]

Some do and some own their own rig and sub contract.

Many make a great a living raise families send kids to college.  You won't get rich being a trucker, but it's a good profession that's very necessary in the mainland.

Are the ones who own their own rig and subcontract precluded from crossing the border?

I would be more concerned about this if Mexico wasn't giving us the same benefit. 

[24KT]

Are the ones who own their own rig and subcontract precluded from crossing the border?

I would be more concerned about this if Mexico wasn't giving us the same benefit. 

Well, it's time to get concerned then. 

[Soul Crusher]

Bump.   

[OzmO]

33333.  Something new on this?

[Soul Crusher]

33333.  Something new on this?

Yes, you missed the thread on this?   

I'll bump it.   Bama is doubling down on this now.