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Re: Obama: Republicans take pride in being ignorant
« Reply #25 on: August 06, 2008, 03:20:05 PM »
Of course he should.  It's the way he responded.  They were making fun of him.  He should have had a light hearted, but factual response, instead of acting like someone hurt his feelings. 

At this point with the voters mentality, it's ALL political, making fun of him is just the same as bashing him.  If Obama made a few statements regarding McCain's age in fun would it be treated as such?   i think not.


If they were just making "fun"  which is obvious they are not, it shows poor judgment from his campaign.   

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Re: Obama: Republicans take pride in being ignorant
« Reply #26 on: August 06, 2008, 03:21:09 PM »
In that case, it seems you just posted a link to a thread of the same discussion.

No surprise companies are drilling on that land, I have seen some of the derricks, and they are not doing good, in fact the oil companies are losing money even being out in many of the fields.

The fact is your facts are not straight or sensible, the 68 million acres has been surveyed and it's not the promise it was hoped to be.

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Re: Obama: Republicans take pride in being ignorant
« Reply #27 on: August 06, 2008, 03:24:43 PM »
In that case, it seems you just posted a link to a thread of the same discussion.

No surprise companies are drilling on that land, I have seen some of the derricks, and they are not doing good, in fact the oil companies are losing money even being out in many of the fields.

The fact is your facts are not straight or sensible, the 68 million acres has been surveyed and it's not the promise it was hoped to be.

Please show the link that shows there isn't any oil....

There hasn't been a real push to drill it yet.

Losing money drilling for oil is part of the process in hitting oil and making money.

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Re: Obama: Republicans take pride in being ignorant
« Reply #28 on: August 06, 2008, 03:29:24 PM »
You should grow up ::)

No, I shouldn't.   ::)

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Re: Obama: Republicans take pride in being ignorant
« Reply #29 on: August 06, 2008, 03:30:19 PM »
Which hole would you select on paris?

This Q is for everyone.

I'd tell the swamp donkey to sock it before I give her a trunky in the tradesman's entrance and have her lick me yarbles!
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Re: Obama: Republicans take pride in being ignorant
« Reply #30 on: August 06, 2008, 03:31:46 PM »
At this point with the voters mentality, it's ALL political, making fun of him is just the same as bashing him.  If Obama made a few statements regarding McCain's age in fun would it be treated as such?   i think not.


If they were just making "fun"  which is obvious they are not, it shows poor judgment from his campaign.   

Neither of them should make fun of things the other cannot control (age, race, gender, etc.).  But on issues?  I thought it was kinda funny.  

The prez has to have very thick skin.  The last two presidents were accused of murder.  

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Re: Obama: Republicans take pride in being ignorant
« Reply #31 on: August 06, 2008, 03:50:55 PM »
Neither of them should make fun of things the other cannot control (age, race, gender, etc.).  But on issues?  I thought it was kinda funny.  

The prez has to have very thick skin.  The last two presidents were accused of murder.  

In this voter pool?  there are millions of voters who think tires is Obama's energy policy.   Obama, in prudence, has to say something.

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Re: Obama: Republicans take pride in being ignorant
« Reply #32 on: August 06, 2008, 04:01:00 PM »
In this voter pool?  there are millions of voters who think tires is Obama's energy policy.   Obama, in prudence, has to say something.

I agree both candidates should respond when their positions are misstated, distorted, etc.  It's the manner in which they respond that I'm talking about.  There are times when righteous indignation is necessary.  This wasn't one of those times IMO.  He overreacted. 

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Re: Obama: Republicans take pride in being ignorant
« Reply #33 on: August 06, 2008, 04:14:07 PM »
I agree both candidates should respond when their positions are misstated, distorted, etc.  It's the manner in which they respond that I'm talking about.  There are times when righteous indignation is necessary.  This wasn't one of those times IMO.  He overreacted. 
I disagree... You call a duck a duck.

I thought McCain was all about the "Straight talk".

All of a sudden if someone else talks "straight", they're whining? Interesting perspective.

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Re: Obama: Republicans take pride in being ignorant
« Reply #34 on: August 06, 2008, 04:27:56 PM »
I disagree... You call a duck a duck.

I thought McCain was all about the "Straight talk".

All of a sudden if someone else talks "straight", they're whining? Interesting perspective.

See my prior responses.  I don't have a problem with straight talk.  I just would have handled it a bit differently.  Someone makes a joke, you make one too, while stating the facts.   

What's the man going to do when someone makes a serious accusation? 

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Re: Obama: Republicans take pride in being ignorant
« Reply #35 on: August 06, 2008, 04:30:52 PM »
See my prior responses.  I don't have a problem with straight talk.  I just would have handled it a bit differently.  Someone makes a joke, you make one too, while stating the facts.  

What's the man going to do when someone makes a serious accusation? 

I could see that being valid if he had some sort of meltdown... Like Cheney calling that guy a motherfvcker.  But I see no meltdown there.

Just a straight fact.

Do you consider our energy usage a crisis or at the very least a very important issue to the US today?

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Re: Obama: Republicans take pride in being ignorant
« Reply #36 on: August 06, 2008, 04:37:33 PM »
I could see that being valid if he had some sort of meltdown... Like Cheney calling that guy a motherfvcker.  But I see no meltdown there.

Just a straight fact.

Do you consider our energy usage a crisis or at the very least a very important issue to the US today?

I'd call this a mini-meltdown:  “It's like these guys take pride in being ignorant,” Obama told a packed gym.  They made fun of him.  He needs to man up already.  He should come out swinging when there is a serious allegation on the table, not when someone makes fun of him. 

Yes energy usage is an important issue. 

You should see what has happened to my electric bill.   >:(  I have threatened to start fining my kids for leaving ten lights on in the house, along with the TV, music, etc. all at the same time.   

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Re: Obama: Republicans take pride in being ignorant
« Reply #37 on: August 06, 2008, 04:52:20 PM »
I'd call this a mini-meltdown:  “It's like these guys take pride in being ignorant,” Obama told a packed gym.  They made fun of him.  He needs to man up already.  He should come out swinging when there is a serious allegation on the table, not when someone makes fun of him. 

Yes energy usage is an important issue. 

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Then why do these republicans mock a sensible suggestion for conservation and then twist what Obama said into something devoid of sense and meaning?

Seems like small time dirty politics to me.

What does Obama have to "man up" about?  Wasn't it the McCain camp that was engaging in restated arguments (lies & hyperbole) re Obama's statement?

Why should Obama man up to such an obvious sandbagging?


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Re: Obama: Republicans take pride in being ignorant
« Reply #38 on: August 06, 2008, 05:13:43 PM »
Then why do these republicans mock a sensible suggestion for conservation and then twist what Obama said into something devoid of sense and meaning?

Seems like small time dirty politics to me.

What does Obama have to "man up" about?  Wasn't it the McCain camp that was engaging in restated arguments (lies & hyperbole) re Obama's statement?

Why should Obama man up to such an obvious sandbagging?



I didn't say he shouldn't respond. 

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Re: Obama: Republicans take pride in being ignorant
« Reply #39 on: August 06, 2008, 05:23:46 PM »
It's not even a mini meltdown........when you have a bias against someone (not insinuating a racial bias of course)  everything you see them do is tainted.

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Re: Obama: Republicans take pride in being ignorant
« Reply #40 on: August 06, 2008, 05:30:55 PM »
O.K.  So we've established I think he acted like a baby and you guys don't.   :)

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Re: Obama: Republicans take pride in being ignorant
« Reply #41 on: August 06, 2008, 05:32:38 PM »
O.K.  So we've established I think he acted like a baby and you guys don't.   :)

No.  We've establish that your bias overruled your usual objectivity.   :D

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Re: Obama: Republicans take pride in being ignorant
« Reply #42 on: August 06, 2008, 05:38:08 PM »
No.  We've establish that your bias overruled your usual objectivity.   :D

lol.   :)  Not even.  I have no dog in this race.  I'm not biased against Obama.  I just don't think he should be president.  That has nothing to do with my opinion that he shouldn't have acted like someone insulted his wife.  Or has he done that already?   :D

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Re: Obama: Republicans take pride in being ignorant
« Reply #43 on: August 06, 2008, 05:44:57 PM »
  I'm not biased against Obama.   

HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH
says the man who posts numerous blurbs and articles finding fault in everything he does.   ;D :D

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Re: Obama: Republicans take pride in being ignorant
« Reply #44 on: August 06, 2008, 05:46:23 PM »
O.K.  So we've established I think he acted like a baby and you guys don't.   :)

I think most everyone has realized that Obama takes things personally, and this is just one of the many reasons why he will not enter into a real town hall debate with McCain, because he says things that he later "regrets"

It's not personal Osama...it's just politics

"It will be a very big mistake for them to ever talk badly about my wife" etc etc etc

His biggest word choice is "I"

Hence he takes things personally and responds to criticism like a big baby.

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Re: Obama: Republicans take pride in being ignorant
« Reply #45 on: August 06, 2008, 05:48:30 PM »
I think most everyone has realized that Obama takes things personally, and this is just one of the many reasons why he will not enter into a real town hall debate with McCain, because he says things that he later "regrets"

It's not personal Osama...it's just politics

"It will be a very big mistake for them to ever talk badly about my wife" etc etc etc

His biggest word choice is "I"

Hence he takes things personally and responds to criticism like a big baby.

I like that he takes it personally.

It IS personal... It should be personal to you and to me and to everyone else who pays taxes.

What part of politics doesn't affect you "personally"?

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Re: Obama: Republicans take pride in being ignorant
« Reply #46 on: August 06, 2008, 05:49:32 PM »
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH
says the man who posts numerous blurbs and articles finding fault in everything he does.   ;D :D

Well . . . maybe because he says and does a lot that I disagree with.  When McCain starts talking like a socialist I'll be all over him too.   :)

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Re: Obama: Republicans take pride in being ignorant
« Reply #47 on: August 06, 2008, 05:50:56 PM »
Well . . . maybe because he says and does a lot that I disagree with.  When McCain starts talking like a socialist I'll be all over him too.   :)

Give McCain some time.......like when he's president.  :)

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Re: Obama: Republicans take pride in being ignorant
« Reply #48 on: August 06, 2008, 05:52:05 PM »
Give McCain some time.......like when he's president.  :)

If he governs like a socialist then I'll be all over him.  He has already waffled on the tax issue, which I'm not happy about.   >:(

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Re: Obama: Republicans take pride in being ignorant
« Reply #49 on: August 06, 2008, 05:53:05 PM »
If he governs like a socialist then I'll be all over him.  He has already waffled on the tax issue, which I'm not happy about.   >:(

what do you think about that BUSH deal on the Mexican trucking issue?   (not related to McCain of course)