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Re: Moral politics test.
« Reply #50 on: August 12, 2008, 12:53:46 PM »
I wish I had 15% to spare! I haven't worked for three years, and the wage I'm about to get in Sept will barely cover beer etc.


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Re: Moral politics test.
« Reply #51 on: August 12, 2008, 12:55:03 PM »
I wish I had 15% to spare! I haven't worked for three years, and the wage I'm about to get in Sept will barely cover beer etc.

lol, priorities 8) ;D
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Re: Moral politics test.
« Reply #52 on: August 12, 2008, 01:16:15 PM »
Your scored 1 on Moral Order and -2 on Moral Rules.



The following categories best match your score (multiple responses are possible):

System: Conservatism
Ideology: Capital Republicanism
Party: Republican Party
Presidents: Gerald Ford
04' Election: John Kerry
08' Election: Rudy Giuliani



Of the 465,211 respondents (5,209 on Facebook):

8% are close to you.
12% are more conservative.
16% are more liberal.
47% are more socialist.
8% are more authoritarian.


I guess this says I am a moderate/conservative.  The other survey I took said I was a libertarian.  Must be a lot of intertest variability.
John Kerry!  Wow.  Maybe I should have listened.


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Re: Moral politics test.
« Reply #53 on: August 12, 2008, 01:31:18 PM »
In this test a liberal is defined very differently than a socialist.  I just don't get socialism.

Ozmo and Stella you guys were almost identical to me on the results...funny, Oz, you and I have disagreed on a couple things.

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« Reply #54 on: August 12, 2008, 02:00:56 PM »
One would think, ...but when a nation shifts so far to the right, even moderate conservative values are seen as LEFTIST
Are you saying you feel America has shifted further to the right on social issues? 
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« Reply #55 on: August 12, 2008, 02:01:51 PM »
One would think, ...but when a nation shifts so far to the right, even moderate conservative values are seen as LEFTIST

America is still very much a centrist nation.

I think the Democratic party has moved very much to the left lately.

I also think the Republican party has moved very much to the right which is why I'm no longer a registered Republican.


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Re: Moral politics test.
« Reply #56 on: August 12, 2008, 03:07:41 PM »
The fact that I scored the same as Jag is a little worrying (no offence, jag). I've always considered myself a conservative, not a bleeding heart socialist.

Hahaha, you and me both. But when things are so far skewed to the right, ...anyone can be tagged as a leftist.
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Re: Moral politics test.
« Reply #57 on: August 12, 2008, 03:13:18 PM »
Are you saying you feel America has shifted further to the right on social issues? 


On EVERY issue.

Those who are setting policy (PNAC) for the USA, both foreign & domestic, were at one point considered extreme right wing lunatics.
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Re: Moral politics test.
« Reply #58 on: August 12, 2008, 03:16:43 PM »
America is still very much a centrist nation.

I think the Democratic party has moved very much to the left lately.

I also think the Republican party has moved very much to the right which is why I'm no longer a registered Republican.


Analysts are saying you represent the most interesting phenomena of this election cycle. While the Democrats have maintained, ...possibly even expanded their base, ...there is a huge infact inordinate amount of independents who are disillusioned with the Republican party. Depending on where this group swings to will have a huge impact on the election results.
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« Reply #59 on: August 12, 2008, 03:25:09 PM »
Analysts are saying you represent the most interesting phenomena of this election cycle. While the Democrats have maintained, ...possibly even expanded their base, ...there is a huge infact inordinate amount of independents who are disillusioned with the Republican party. Depending on where this group swings to will have a huge impact on the election results.

I agree with you about the Republican party. They've lost their way. I think this is why Ron Paul is so popular with former Republicans.

However, I know of a lot of Democrats that are very unhappy with their party too (the war, gay marriage, abortion, etc.).

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Re: Moral politics test.
« Reply #60 on: August 12, 2008, 03:28:46 PM »
I agree with you about the Republican party. They've lost their way. I think this is why Ron Paul is so popular with former Republicans.

However, I know of a lot of Democrats that are very unhappy with their party too (the war, gay marriage, abortion, etc.).

True, ...however, for most voters their priorities are
  • ending the war
  • the economy
  • the price of fuel, etc., etc

...areas which the Republicans have failed miserably
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« Reply #61 on: August 12, 2008, 03:35:19 PM »
True, ...however, for most voters their priorities are
  • ending the war
  • the economy
  • the price of fuel, etc., etc

...areas which the Republicans have failed miserably

Let's be fair, Judi.

The Democrats (who control the House and Senate) failed to stop the war also.

They also share the blame for the economy and have as much control over the price of oil as President Bush does.

It would seem to me (just my opinion here) that if the American government was serious about the price of oil (and our dependence on foreign oil) we'd be drilling in Colorado. We are, after all, sitting on the world's largest oil reserve.

I do agree with you though. Most Americans vote with their pocket books and their loyalty is to themselves and their family.

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Re: Moral politics test.
« Reply #62 on: August 12, 2008, 03:42:52 PM »
Let's be fair, Judi.

The Democrats (who control the House and Senate) failed to stop the war also.

Yes, let us be fair. Democratic control over congress was a recent occurrence, by which time, this admin was already well into the doodoo.

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They also share the blame for the economy and have as much control over the price of oil as President Bush does.

how so? It was bush and his rubber stamp that brought this entire mess about.
...and it was the puppet (through his puppetmasters in the oil companies) that are responsible for this.

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It would seem to me (just my opinion here) that if the American government was serious about the price of oil (and our dependence on foreign oil) we'd be drilling in Colorado. We are, after all, sitting on the world's largest oil reserve.

If the American gov was serious about the price of oil and Americas dependence on foreign oil, it would have required the oil companies to drill on the leases they currently have, they would have required them to open more refineries, and they would have embarked on an energy policy designed to wean Ameriica off foreign oil. They have not done so.

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I do agree with you though. Most Americans vote with their pocket books and their loyalty is to themselves and their family.

I agree. As a whole, ...you're a very selfish lot.  :P    ;)
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« Reply #63 on: August 12, 2008, 03:51:55 PM »
Yes, let us be fair. Democratic control over congress was a recent occurrence, by which time, this admin was already well into the doodoo.

The were elected on their assurances to the American public to bring the troops home. Still hasn't happened. Instead they let Bush bitch slap them around.

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how so? It was bush and his rubber stamp that brought this entire mess about.
...and it was the puppet (through his puppetmasters in the oil companies) that are responsible for this.

IMO, both parties are responsible for run away spending, letting the war drag on, over taxation, subsidies, etc.

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If the American gov was serious about the price of oil and Americas dependence on foreign oil, it would have required the oil companies to drill on the leases they currently have, they would have required them to open more refineries, and they would have embarked on an energy policy designed to wean Ameriica off foreign oil. They have not done so.

No they haven't. No refineries have been built in over 30 years! Why is that? Why haven't any of the Presidents (past and present) invested heavily in alternative energy? Nuke, solar, fvckings hamsters on a wheel, whatever!

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I agree. As a whole, ...you're a very selfish lot.  :P    ;)

Americans are some of the most charitable people on this planet... but.... a man can't be charitable if he has nothing to give.




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Re: Moral politics test.
« Reply #64 on: August 12, 2008, 04:04:40 PM »


No they haven't. No refineries have been built in over 30 years! Why is that? Why haven't any of the Presidents (past and present) invested heavily in alternative energy? Nuke, solar, fvckings hamsters on a wheel, whatever!



I'm LMAO just picturing the hamsters on a wheel.

Let's see who has been in office for the past 30 years.

We had Reagan, actually Bush snr since Reagan had alzheimers  (Republican)
Bush Snr (Republican)
Clinton (Democrat)
bush jr (Neocon puppet)
bush jr (Neocon puppet)

With the exception of Bill Clinton whose presidency saw a huge upswing in the economy, and unprecedented prosperity across all socioeconomic stratas, it's been nothing but Republicans and neocons.   

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Americans are some of the most charitable people on this planet... but.... a man can't be charitable if he has nothing to give.

Vote for mccain and you'll see more of the same and have even less for yourself, ...let alone to give.

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Re: Moral politics test.
« Reply #65 on: August 13, 2008, 01:11:27 PM »
for most voters their priorities are:
ending the war
the economy
the price of fuel, etc., etc
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Absolutely, for me too.  Both parties have failed on 2 of the 3.  Our government has failed on the economy, spending, immigration, etc.  The war should have never been started but now we're left with what to do...I suppose things are better and progressing.  Nevertheless, big mistake IMO.

I am also a former moderate republican who is now a registered independent because I don't like the direction of the modern republican party.  Voted for Ron Paul.


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Re: Moral politics test.
« Reply #66 on: August 13, 2008, 01:17:44 PM »
Judi, its probably different in canada but we have a lot of lazy Americans and work ethic is getting worse overall, particularly for the generation coming up...very selfish and lazy.  Thats why I don't understand, nor do I want, more socialist programs.  I have been brought up to work hard and sarcrifice for what I want for myself and those around me.  Happiness is not $...happiness is pride, honor, respect, love of self and others you care about, doing real good for others, creating opportunities for people that want them and occasional rewards shared with family (vacations, house, whatever)... but I'm also against blanket entitlements and supporting lazy attitudes and poor work ethics, which is what socialism will do in a diverse society like the US.

I am all for reasonable programs that help the sick, the elderly and those with medical misfortunes...I've just seen so much abuse in my years in medicine that I can't support more of those inept programs.  I also don't trust the government to do whats best.  The best organizations I have been with are small, ran by family & friends.  Big business, big government, big organizations are nearly always bad in my experience.  I believe strongly in personal freedom.

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Re: Moral politics test.
« Reply #67 on: August 13, 2008, 01:19:10 PM »
Congress is still the holdup with domestic drilling, no longer the president.  Some of the democrats in congress are still resisting.

I miss the days of Clinton...a moderate democrat!