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Re: Best type of enforcement weapons?
« Reply #50 on: August 15, 2008, 12:13:01 PM »
Unless you get a special permit (which is hard to get), sawed offs are illegal in all states in the US.  So, if you shoot and kill and intruder with one, you're not only looking at likely (depending of course on the circumstances) manslaughter charges but also illegal weapons charges compounded with that.

The biggest handgun I own is a Ruger Redhawk .44 mag.  I keep it loaded with 300 gr jacketed hollow point rounds.

You can get a permit?  ???
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Re: Best type of enforcement weapons?
« Reply #51 on: August 15, 2008, 12:13:29 PM »
Unless you get a special permit (which is hard to get), sawed offs are illegal in all states in the US.  So, if you shoot and kill and intruder with one, you're not only looking at likely (depending of course on the circumstances) manslaughter charges but also illegal weapons charges compounded with that.

The biggest handgun I own is a Ruger Redhawk .44 mag.  I keep it loaded with 300 gr jacketed hollow point rounds.

do you think the gun culture in the US

is a self perpetuating problem
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Re: Best type of enforcement weapons?
« Reply #52 on: August 15, 2008, 12:14:05 PM »
Full auto?

Sure, it's legal in some states. Also highly accurate and deadly in cqb.

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Re: Best type of enforcement weapons?
« Reply #53 on: August 15, 2008, 12:19:40 PM »


Kills any man in one shot.
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Re: Best type of enforcement weapons?
« Reply #54 on: August 15, 2008, 12:20:34 PM »
BS, a dog, I don't want my dog to get hurt.  :'(

It would have to be no less than 80lbs

He's 135 at the moment....unless he snuck a few more pounds on lately

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Re: Best type of enforcement weapons?
« Reply #55 on: August 15, 2008, 12:27:38 PM »
THE JUDGE!!!

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What a name! It’s based on the fact that many judges are now carrying it into the courtroom with them – and for good reason. We know of no better self-defense firearm. Whether loading all 45s – all .410s or alternating them in the cylinder, the Judge is the ultimate shotgun/revolver duo.

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Re: Best type of enforcement weapons?
« Reply #56 on: August 15, 2008, 12:28:57 PM »
Sure, it's legal in some states. Also highly accurate and deadly in cqb.
its legal in all states if you have an NFA permit how old his the gun?

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Re: Best type of enforcement weapons?
« Reply #57 on: August 15, 2008, 12:55:03 PM »
Unless you get a special permit (which is hard to get), sawed offs are illegal in all states in the US. 

They are collector's items. They appraised quite nicely, last year.

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Re: Best type of enforcement weapons?
« Reply #58 on: August 15, 2008, 03:28:14 PM »
trust me, the best weapon to have is a dog. ive been in full swat gear carrying an m-16 and the rioters didnt budge. nothing worked until we sent a group of dogs out and then the thugs ran away.

doesnt even have to be a k-9. anything but a gay ankle biter. they are more alert and they will wake up after the slightest sound. which will alert you.

you dont need much more then 1 or 2 shots. a 12 gauge will do just fine. when someone breaks into your house, they are not a trained US soldier. its some nthug who will run away and cry after one shot at them.


just go all civil rights era on some fools

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Re: Best type of enforcement weapons?
« Reply #59 on: August 15, 2008, 04:16:28 PM »
I have this turned on at night in case of intruders. 



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Re: Best type of enforcement weapons?
« Reply #60 on: August 15, 2008, 04:27:25 PM »
This until I get money for something bigger.

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Re: Best type of enforcement weapons?
« Reply #61 on: August 15, 2008, 05:05:59 PM »

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Re: Best type of enforcement weapons?
« Reply #62 on: August 15, 2008, 05:27:17 PM »
I have this turned on at night in case of intruders. 





haha wow

that must of set you back a bit, money well spent

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Re: Best type of enforcement weapons?
« Reply #63 on: August 15, 2008, 05:45:18 PM »
Seems like a lot of scarred and paranoid people on here :(

Please don’t accidently shoot a family member. 

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Re: Best type of enforcement weapons?
« Reply #64 on: August 15, 2008, 05:46:20 PM »
Hahaha, americans and their guns  ::) ::)

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Re: Best type of enforcement weapons?
« Reply #65 on: August 15, 2008, 05:46:21 PM »
Seems like a lot of prepared people on here :(

Please don’t accidently shoot a family member. 


Fixed.

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Re: Best type of enforcement weapons?
« Reply #66 on: August 15, 2008, 05:51:25 PM »
 ;)

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Re: Best type of enforcement weapons?
« Reply #67 on: August 15, 2008, 05:52:48 PM »
Seems like a lot of scarred and paranoid people on here :(

Please don’t accidently shoot a family member. 


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Re: Best type of enforcement weapons?
« Reply #68 on: August 15, 2008, 05:58:40 PM »
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Re: Best type of enforcement weapons?
« Reply #69 on: August 15, 2008, 06:13:14 PM »
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Re: Best type of enforcement weapons?
« Reply #70 on: August 15, 2008, 07:20:58 PM »
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Re: Best type of enforcement weapons?
« Reply #71 on: October 02, 2008, 06:59:49 AM »
Seems like a lot of scarred and paranoid people on here :(

Please don’t accidently shoot a family member. 


Some people prefer to not be a victim. Most of what you think you know about guns are wrong. Here's a primer for your education:

The Cold, Hard Facts About Guns
by Dr. John R. Lott, Jr.


America may indeed be obsessed with guns, but much of what passes as fact simply isn't true. The news media's focus on only tragic outcomes, while ignoring tragic events that were avoided, may be responsible for some misimpressions. Horrific events like the recent shooting in Arkansas receive massive news coverage, as they should, but the 2.5 million times each year that people use guns defensively are never discussed--including cases where public shootings are stopped before they happen.

Unfortunately, these misimpressions have real costs for people's safety. Many myths needlessly frighten people and prevent them from defending themselves most effectively.

    Myth No. 1: When one is attacked, passive behavior is the safest approach.

The Department of Justice's National Crime Victimization Survey reports that the probability of serious injury from an attack is 2.5 times greater for women offering no resistance than for women resisting with a gun. Men also benefit from using a gun, but the benefits are smaller: offering no resistance is 1.4 times more likely to result in serious injury than resisting with a gun.

    Myth No. 2: Friends or relatives are the most likely killers.

The myth is usually based on two claims: 1) 58 percent of murder victims are killed by either relatives or acquaintances and 2) anyone could be a murderer.

With the broad definition of "acquaintances" used in the FBI's Uniform Crime Reports, most victims are indeed classified as knowing their killer. However, what is not made clear is that acquaintance murder primarily includes drug buyers killing drug pushers, cabdrivers killed by first-time customers, gang members killing other gang members, prostitutes killed by their clients, and so on. Only one city, Chicago, reports a precise breakdown on the nature of acquaintance killings: between 1990 and 1995 just 17 percent of murder victims were either family members, friends, neighbors and/or roommates.

Murderers also are not your average citizen. For example, about 90 percent of adult murderers have already had a criminal record as an adult. Murderers are overwhelmingly young males with low IQs and who have difficult times getting along with others. Furthermore, unfortunately, murder is disproportionately committed against blacks and by blacks.

    Myth No. 3: The United States has such a high murder rate because Americans own so many guns.


There is no international evidence backing this up. The Swiss, New Zealanders and Finns all own guns as frequently as Americans, yet in 1995 Switzerland had a murder rate 40 percent lower than Germany's, and New Zealand had one lower than Australia's. Finland and Sweden have very different gun ownership rates, but very similar murder rates. Israel, with a higher gun ownership rate than the U.S., has a murder rate 40 percent below Canada's. When one studies all countries rather than just a select few as is usually done, there is absolutely no relationship between gun ownership and murder.

    Myth No. 4: If law-abiding citizens are allowed to carry concealed handguns, people will end up shooting each other after traffic accidents as well as accidentally shooting police officers.

Millions of people currently hold concealed handgun permits, and some states have issued them for as long as 60 years. Yet, only one permit holder has ever been arrested for using a concealed handgun after a traffic accident and that case was ruled as self-defense. The type of person willing to go through the permitting process is extremely law-abiding. In Florida, almost 444,000 licenses were granted from 1987 to 1997, but only 84 people have lost their licenses for felonies involving firearms. Most violations that lead to permits being revoked involve accidentally carrying a gun into restricted areas, like airports or schools. In Virginia, not a single permit holder has committed a violent crime. Similarly encouraging results have been reported for Kentucky, Nevada, North Carolina, South Carolina, Texas and Tennessee (the only other states where information is available).

    Myth No. 5: The family gun is more likely to kill you or someone you know than to kill in self-defense.

The studies yielding such numbers never actually inquired as to whose gun was used in the killing. Instead, if a household owned a gun and if a person in that household or someone they knew was shot to death while in the home, the gun in the household was blamed. In fact, virtually all the killings in these studies were committed by guns brought in by an intruder. No more than four percent of the gun deaths can be attributed to the homeowner's gun. The very fact that most people were killed by intruders also surely raises questions about why they owned guns in the first place and whether they had sufficient protection.

How many attacks have been deterred from ever occurring by the potential victims owning a gun? My own research finds that more concealed handguns, and increased gun ownership generally, unambiguously deter murders, robbery, and aggravated assaults. This is also in line with the well-known fact that criminals prefer attacking victims that they consider weak.


These are only some of the myths about guns and crime that drive the public policy debate. We must not lose sight of the ultimate question: Will allowing law-abiding citizens to own guns save lives? The evidence strongly indicates that it does.

This article fist appeared in the Chicago Tribune on May 8, 1998 and is reprinted here with the author's permission.

Dr. John Lott, Jr. is the John M. Olin law and economics fellow at the University of Chicago School of Law,

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Re: Best type of enforcement weapons?
« Reply #72 on: October 02, 2008, 07:09:10 AM »
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Re: Best type of enforcement weapons?
« Reply #73 on: October 02, 2008, 07:09:40 AM »
"im on my P.I... and i get them same kind of guns like T.I..."

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Re: Best type of enforcement weapons?
« Reply #74 on: October 02, 2008, 09:10:19 AM »
What is your number one choice in home defense? I have a sawed off pump action (9 rounds) sawed off shotgun in case a blackie wants to enter my home. Wanting something bigger in case he brings a posse'

I would get this one