Actually Moosejay happens to be one of the few on here that actually got himself into great shape many times since he was a teen into his 40's. That takes a lot of discipline and he did it while pursuing a chiropractic career and is well known by many of the classic bodybuilders like Zane and Robbie. I think he's pretty cool...not an elitist but someone who appreciates people that worked hard to accomplish things and dislikes those whom liberals want to give handouts to who refuse to work or better themselves. He's having to deal with a lot of adversity healthwise lately and is facing it bravely. Show the Moose some respect!