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« Reply #50 on: August 29, 2008, 08:35:18 AM »
No, that actually gives her more experiance that Obama. Although she's only had one term as GOVERNER, it's an executive office, Obama can't say that, as well as Biden.

You don't really beleive that, do you?  I mean seriously.  You think she's more qualified than Obama?  More qualified than Biden?

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« Reply #51 on: August 29, 2008, 08:36:52 AM »

No, that actually gives her more experiance that Obama. Although she's only had one term as GOVERNER, it's an executive office, Obama can't say that, as well as Biden.

Wrong!

Highlights of Governor Palin's tenure include a successful push for an ethics bill, and also shelving pork-barrel projects supported by fellow Republicans.  Palin successfully killed the Bridge to Nowhere project that had become a nationwide symbol of wasteful earmark spending.


18 months.  There it is.  Before that, she was part-time mayor. 

She passed an ethics bill, and cut some pork spending. 

I'm sure we'll see their resumes side by side, Joe. 

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« Reply #52 on: August 29, 2008, 08:37:29 AM »
Biden has been a Senator since age 30, the minimum age requirement.

He's only been a legislator. He's never ran a State or held any executive office that I'm aware of.

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« Reply #53 on: August 29, 2008, 08:38:02 AM »
Palin served two terms on the Wasilla City Council from 1992 to 1996. In 1996, she challenged the incumbent mayor, criticizing wasteful spending and high taxes.[5] The ex-mayor and sheriff tried to organize a recall campaign, but failed.[5] Palin kept her campaign promises, reducing her own salary, as well as reducing property taxes by 60%.[5] She ran for reelection against the former mayor in 1999, winning by an even larger margin.[5][14] Palin was also elected president of the Alaska Conference of Mayors.[8]

In 2002, Palin made an unsuccessful bid for Lieutenant Governor, coming in second to Loren Leman in a four-way race. After Frank Murkowski resigned from his long-held U.S. Senate seat in mid-term to become governor, Palin interviewed to be his possible successor. Instead, Murkowski appointed his daughter, then-Alaska State Representative Lisa Murkowski.[5]

Governor Murkowski appointed Palin Ethics Commissioner of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission,[15] where she served from 2003 to 2004 until resigning in protest over what she called the "lack of ethics" of fellow Alaskan Republican leaders, who ignored her whistleblowing complaints of legal violations and conflicts of interest.[5] After she resigned, she exposed the state Republican party's chairman, Randy Ruedrich, one of her fellow Oil & Gas commissioners, who was accused of doing work for the party on public time, and supplying a lobbyist with a sensitive e-mail.[16] Palin filed formal complaints against both Ruedrich and former Alaska Attorney General Gregg Renkes, who both resigned; Ruedrich paid a record $12,000 fine.[5]


Governorship
 
Governor Palin visits a wounded soldier in Landstuhl, Germany, July 2007In 2006, Palin, running on a clean-government campaign, executed an upset victory over then-Gov. Murkowski in the Republican gubernatorial primary.[5] Despite the lack of support from party leaders and being outspent by her Democratic opponent, she went on to win the general election in November 2006, defeating former Governor Tony Knowles.[5] Palin said in 2006 that education, public safety, and transportation would be three cornerstones of her administration.[13]

When elected, Palin became the first woman to be Alaska's governor, and the youngest governor in Alaskan history at 42 years old upon taking office. Palin was also the first Alaskan governor born after Alaska achieved U.S. statehood. She was also the first Alaskan governor not to be inaugurated in Juneau, instead choosing to hold her inauguration ceremony in Fairbanks. She took office on December 4, 2006.

Highlights of Governor Palin's tenure include a successful push for an ethics bill, and also shelving pork-barrel projects supported by fellow Republicans. Palin successfully killed the Bridge to Nowhere project that had become a nationwide symbol of wasteful earmark spending.[10][17] "Alaska needs to be self-sufficient, she says, instead of relying heavily on 'federal dollars,' as the state does today."[11]

She has challenged the state's Republican leaders, helping to launch a campaign by Lieutenant Governor Sean Parnell to unseat U.S. Congressman Don Young[18] and publicly challenging Senator Ted Stevens to come clean about the federal investigation into his financial dealings.[10]

In 2007, Palin had an approval rating often in the 90s.[11] A poll published by Hays Research on July 28, 2008 showed Palin's approval rating at 80%.[19]


Energy policies
Palin's tenure is noted for her independence from big oil companies, while still promoting resource development.[11][10] Palin has announced plans to create a new sub-cabinet group of advisors, to address climate change and reduce greenhouse gas emissions within Alaska.[20]

Shortly after taking office, Palin rescinded thirty-five appointments made by Murkowski in the last hour of his administration, including the appointment by Murkowski of his former chief of staff Jim Clark to the Alaska Natural Gas Development Authority.[21][22] Clark later pled guilty to conspiring with a defunct oil-field-services company to channel money into Frank Murkowski's re-election campaign.[23]

In March 2007, Palin presented the Alaska Gasline Inducement Act (AGIA) as the new legal vehicle for building a natural gas pipeline from the state's North Slope.[24] Only one legislator, Representative Ralph Samuels, voted against the measure,[25] and in June Palin signed it into law.[26][27] On January 5, 2008, Palin announced that a Canadian company, Transcanada, was the sole AGIA-compliant applicant.[28][29]

In response to high oil and gas prices, and in response to the resulting state government budget surplus, Palin proposed giving Alaskans $100-a-month energy debit cards. She also proposed providing grants to electrical utilities so that they would reduce customers' rates.[30] She subsequently dropped the debit card proposal, and in its place she proposed to send Alaskans $1,200 directly and eliminate the gas tax.[31][32]


Social issues
Palin is strongly pro-life, a supporter of capital punishment[citation needed], and belongs to Feminists for Life.[13]

She opposes same-sex marriage, but she has stated that she has gay friends and is receptive to gay and lesbian concerns about discrimination.[13] While the previous administration did not implement same-sex benefits, Palin complied with a state Supreme Court order and signed them into law.[33] She disagreed with the Supreme Court ruling[34] and supported a democratic advisory vote from the public on whether there should be a constitutional amendment on the matter.[35] Alaska was one of the first U.S. states to pass a constitutional ban on gay marriage, in 1998, along with Hawaii.[36]

Palin's first veto was used to block legislation that would have barred the state from granting benefits to the partners of gay state employees. In effect, her veto granted State of Alaska benefits to same-sex couples. The veto occurred after Palin consulted with Alaska's attorney general on the constitutionality of the legislation.[34]


Matanuska Maid Dairy closure
When the Alaska Creamery Board recommended closing Matanuska Maid Dairy, an unprofitable state-owned business, Palin objected, citing concern for the impact on dairy farmers and the fact that the Dairy had just received $600,000 in state money. When Palin learned that only the Board of Agriculture and Conservation could appoint Creamery Board members, she simply replaced the entire membership of the Board of Agriculture and Conservation.[11][37] The new board, led by businesswoman Kristan Cole, reversed the decision to close the board.[37] The new board approved milk price increases offered by the dairy in an attempt to control fiscal losses, even though milk from Washington was already offered in Alaskan stores at lower prices.[38] In the end, the dairy was forced to close, and the state tried to sell the assets to pay off its debts but received no bids.[39][40]


Budget
In the first days of her administration, Palin followed through on a campaign promise to sell the Westwind II jet purchased (on a state government credit account) by the Murkowski administration. The state placed the jet for sale on eBay three times. In August 2007, the jet was sold for $2.7 million.[41]

Shortly after becoming governor, Palin canceled a contract for construction on an 11-mile (18-kilometer) gravel road outside of Juneau to a mine. This reversed a decision made in the closing days or hours of the Murkowski Administration.[42]

In June 2007, Palin signed into law a $6.6 billion operating budget—the largest in Alaska's history.[43] At the same time, she used her veto power to make the second-largest cuts of the construction budget in state history. The $237 million in cuts represented over 300 local projects, and reduced the construction budget to nearly $1.6 billion.[44]


Commissioner dismissal
On July 11, 2008, Governor Palin dismissed Walter Monegan as Commissioner of Public Safety and instead offered him a position as executive director of the state Alcoholic Beverage Control Board, which he subsequently turned down.[45][46] Monegan alleged shortly after his dismissal that it may have been partly due to his reluctance to fire an Alaska State Trooper, Mike Wooten, who had been involved in a divorce and child custody battle with Palin's sister, Molly McCann.[47] In 2006, before Palin was governor, Wooten was briefly suspended for ten days for threatening to kill McCann's (and Palin's) father, tasering his 11-year-old stepson (at the stepson's request), and violating game laws. After a union protest, the suspension was reduced to five days.[48]

Governor Palin asserts that her dismissal of Monegan was unrelated to the fact that he had not fired Wooten, and asserts that Monegan was instead dismissed for not adequately filling state trooper vacancies, and because he "did not turn out to be a team player on budgeting issues."[49] Palin acknowledges that a member of her administration, Frank Bailey, did contact the Department of Public Safety regarding Wooten, but both Palin and Bailey say that happened without her knowledge and was unrelated to her dismissal of Monegan.[49] Bailey was put on leave for two months for acting outside the scope of his authority as the Director of Boards and Commissions.

In response to Palin's statement that she had nothing to hide, in August 2008 the Alaska Legislature hired Steve Branchflower to investigate Palin and her staff for possible abuse of power surrounding the dismissal, though lawmakers acknowledge that "Monegan and other commissioners serve at will, meaning they can be fired by Palin at any time."[50] The investigation is being overseen by Democratic State Senator Hollis French, who says that the Palin administration has been cooperating and thus subpoenas are unnecessary.[51] The Palin administration itself was the first to release an audiotape of Bailey making inquiries about the status of the Wooten investigation.[49][52]

Wooten and the police union alleged that the governor had improperly released his employment files in his divorce case. However, McCann's attorney released a signed waiver from Wooten demonstrating that Wooten had authorized the release of his files through normal discovery procedures.[53][54]


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Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
« Reply #54 on: August 29, 2008, 08:38:03 AM »
I disagree with that as do the facts.
]Obama holds assignments on the Senate Committees for Foreign Relations; Health, Education, Labor and Pensions; Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs; and Veterans' Affairs, and he is a member of the Congressional Black Caucus.
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As a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Obama made official trips to Eastern Europe, the Middle East, and Africa. In August 2005, he traveled to Russia, Ukraine, and Azerbaijan. The trip focused on strategies to control the world's supply of conventional weapons, biological weapons, and weapons of mass destruction as a first defense against potential terrorist attacks.<61>

Following meetings with U.S. military in Kuwait and Iraq in January 2006, Obama visited Jordan, Israel, and the Palestinian territories.

He left for his third official trip in August 2006, traveling to South Africa, Kenya, Djibouti, Ethiopia and Chad. In a nationally televised speech at the University of Nairobi, he spoke forcefully on the influence of ethnic rivalries and corruption in Kenya.

Obama worked with Russ Feingold (D–WI) to eliminate gifts of travel on corporate jets by lobbyists to members of Congress and require disclosure of bundled campaign contributions under the "Honest Leadership and Open Government Act", which was signed into law in September 2007.

He joined Chuck Schumer (D-NY) in sponsoring S. 453, a bill to criminalize deceptive practices in federal elections, including fraudulent flyers and automated phone calls, as witnessed in the 2006 midterm elections.

Obama also introduced the "Iraq War De-Escalation Act", a bill to cap troop levels in Iraq, begin phased redeployment, and remove all combat brigades from Iraq before April 2008.<68>

Later in 2007, Obama sponsored with Kit Bond (R-MO) an amendment to the 2008 Defense Authorization Act adding safeguards for personality disorder military discharges, and calling for a review by the Government Accountability Office following reports that the procedure had been used inappropriately to reduce government costs.

joined Chuck Hagel (R-NE) in introducing legislation to reduce risks of nuclear terrorism.A provision from the Obama-Hagel bill was passed by Congress in December 2007 as an amendment to the State-Foreign Operations appropriations bill.

Obama also sponsored a Senate amendment to the State Children's Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) to provide one year of job protection for family members caring for soldiers with combat-related injuries. After passing both houses of Congress with bipartisan majorities, SCHIP was vetoed by President Bush in early October 2007, a move Obama said "shows a callousness of priorities that is offensive to the ideals we hold as Americans."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama


THESE ARE BARACK'S ACCOMPLISHMENTS IN THE U.S. SENATE TO DATE:

** First legislation, the HOPE Act, which increased Pell Grants to $5100, and later joined Senator Kennedy on the Higher Education legislation that passed July 20, by a vote of 78-18. That legislation also included funding for Predominantly Black Colleges to assist with counseling, tutoring and other needs of low income students. It also creates the Teaching Residency Act which will create a school-based teacher preparation program in high needs schools to provide each teacher with a mentor, content instruction, classroom management skills, a master’s degree and state certification, and a 2 year follow-up program.


**The Coburn-Obama Government Transparency Act of 2006
is an act that requires the full disclosure of all entities or organizations receiving federal funds beginning in fiscal year (FY) 2007 on a website maintained by the Office of Management and Budget.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Funding_Accountabi...


**The Lugar-Obama Nuclear Non-proliferation and Conventional Weapons Threat Reduction Act
Authored by U.S. Sens. Dick Lugar (R-IN) and Barack Obama (D-IL), the Lugar-Obama initiative expands U.S. cooperation to destroy conventional weapons. It also expands the State Department's ability to detect and interdict weapons and materials of mass destruction.
Signed into Law on January 11, 2007.
http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/chrisblas...


**The 2007 Government Ethics Bill
http://www.rollcall.com/issues/53_17/news/19664-1.html?...
http://www.commonblog.com/story/2007/9/14/164837/331

** The “Democratic Republic of the Congo Relief, Security, and Democracy Promotion Act.
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s109-2125

** S116 - Summer Learning demonstration project to provide summer learning grants and encourage new teaching methods.
http://www.pasesetter.org/demonstrationPrograms/nasd.ht...

and this one, moved out of committee just a few days ago:
Obama's Global Poverty Act of 2007, passed out of committee just a few days ago
WASHINGTON, D.C. - U.S. Senators Barack Obama (D-IL), Chuck Hagel (R-NE), and Maria Cantwell (D-WA) and Congressman Adam Smith (D-WA) today hailed the Senate Foreign Relations Committee's passage of the Global Poverty Act (S.2433), which requires the President to develop and implement a comprehensive policy to cut extreme global poverty in half by 2015 through aid, trade, debt relief, and coordination with the international community, businesses and NGOs. This legislation was introduced in December. Smith and Congressman Spencer Bachus (R-AL) sponsored the House version of the bill (H.R. 1302), which passed the House last September.
http://obama.senate.gov /



Amendments, that have all passed:

S.Amdt.159 to S.Con.Res.18 - To prevent and, if necessary, respond to an international outbreak of the avian flu.

S.Amdt.390 to H.R.1268 - To provide meal and telephone benefits for members of the Armed Forces who are recuperating from injuries incurred on active duty in Operation Iraqi Freedom or Operation Enduring Freedom.

S.Amdt.670 to H.R.3 - To provide for Flexible Fuel Vehicle (FFV) refueling capability at new and existing refueling station facilities to promote energy security and reduction of greenhouse gas emissions.

S.Amdt.808 to H.R.6 - To establish a program to develop Fischer-Tropsch transportation fuels from Illinois basin coal.

S.Amdt.851 to H.R.6 - To require the Secretary to establish a Joint Flexible Fuel/Hybrid Vehicle Commercialization Initiative, and for other purposes.

S.Amdt.1362 to S.1042 - To require a report on the Department of Defense Composite Health Care System II.

S.Amdt.1453 to S.1402 - To ensure the protection of military and civilian personnel in the Department of Defense from an influenza pandemic, including an avian influenza pandemic.

S.Amdt.2301 to H.R.3010 - To increase funds to the Thurgood Marshall Legal Educational Opportunity Program and to the Office of Special Education Programs of the Department of Education for the purposes of expanding positive behavioral interventions and supports.

S.Amdt.2605 to S.2020 - Expressing the sense of the Senate that the Federal Emergency Management Agency should immediately address issues relating to no-bid contracting.

S.Amdt.2930 to S.2349 - To clarify that availability of legislation does not include nonbusiness days.
S.Amdt.3144 to S.Con.Res.83 - To provide a $40 million increase in FY 2007 for the Homeless Veterans Reintegration Program and to improve job services for hard-to-place veterans

S. Amdt 41 to S. 1 To require lobbyists to disclose the candidates, leadership PACs, or political parties for whom they collect or arrange contributions, and the aggregate amount of the contributions collected or arranged.

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Barack has Written a total of 890 Bills and Co-sponsored Another 1096 since he started serving in the U.S. Senate.

You just eslapped Coach in the face.  ;D

Thanks for those facts; I did not know most of them. You do have to admit that Obama has gained some serious experience from his campaign though.

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Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
« Reply #55 on: August 29, 2008, 08:38:41 AM »
Reminds me of Tony's therapist in Soprano's...Dr Melfi

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Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
« Reply #56 on: August 29, 2008, 08:39:53 AM »
Palin also was investigated for corruption and abuse of power.  Nice!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin


Joe, you can now see Obama and Palin's work side by side.  Obama destroys her.  It's not even debatable.


The woman is highly inexperienced


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Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
« Reply #57 on: August 29, 2008, 08:40:13 AM »
He's only been a legislator. He's never ran a State or held any executive office that I'm aware of.
That comparison doesn`t make any sense.  By your standards you think mayor of a small town for a brief term equates to more experience than being an effective Senator for 30 plus years.

You, sir, are a moron.

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Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
« Reply #58 on: August 29, 2008, 08:40:23 AM »
I'm guessing you've already cracked one off to her  :D

No I am gonna need a nude or at least a swim suit shot for the.   Hell I will even settle for her in jeans with a little camel toe.

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« Reply #59 on: August 29, 2008, 08:40:48 AM »
You just eslapped Coach in the face.  ;D

Thanks for those facts; I did not know most of them. You do have to admit that Obama has gained some serious experience from his campaign though.

No, Obama didn't author hardly any of those. Obama reaks of corruption as it's been well documented.

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Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
« Reply #60 on: August 29, 2008, 08:42:21 AM »
No, that actually gives her more experiance that Obama. Although she's only had one term as GOVERNER, it's an executive office, Obama can't say that, as well as Biden.

So now you're just jumping behind this selection? When Obama chose Biden, I was taken aback. But now it's looking like a brilliant play.


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Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
« Reply #61 on: August 29, 2008, 08:42:26 AM »
Guys - please don't even foster a debate here - look at their record.

Obama has worked at state and national lawmaking level, authored almost 900 bills, co-sponsoring 1900.

he's on foreign relations committee.

She has been governor of alaska for 18 months, minus vacations.




Oh, and I don't think she's ever traveled to Iraq either, joe? ;)

Remember how bad you criticized Obama for only being there twice?

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Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
« Reply #62 on: August 29, 2008, 08:42:39 AM »
That comparison doesn`t make any sense.  By your standards you think mayor of a small town for a brief term equates to more experience than being an effective Senator for 30 plus years.

You, sir, are a moron.

In case you haven't heard dickhead.......shes the GOVERNOR OF ALASKA.

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Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
« Reply #63 on: August 29, 2008, 08:43:24 AM »
Smart choice IMO.

Votes go for the top of the ticket so I think I'd rather have the inexperienced minority or woman at VP rather than at the top.

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Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
« Reply #64 on: August 29, 2008, 08:43:29 AM »
No, Obama didn't author hardly any of those.

yes, Joe.

Barack has Written a total of 890 Bills and Co-sponsored Another 1096 since he started serving in the U.S. Senate.

No denying this one.  Palin is a part-time mayor and 18-month governor.

Grossly inexperienced.

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Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
« Reply #65 on: August 29, 2008, 08:44:13 AM »
No, Obama didn't author hardly any of those. Obama reaks of corruption as it's been well documented.
Barack has Written a total of 890 Bills



Prove it. Show us the documentation.  Show us.

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Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
« Reply #66 on: August 29, 2008, 08:44:36 AM »
In case you haven't heard dickhead.......shes the GOVERNOR OF ALASKA.

For 18 months, minus vacations.  And she did have to fight abuse-of-power charges at that time as well.

I think there are about 500 republicans MORE QUALIFIED than her, Joe.

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Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
« Reply #67 on: August 29, 2008, 08:45:54 AM »
jesus christ , what a bad choice for the Rep.

Going after the Hillary vote would work if they got Hillary, this lady has no exp and like said b4 , is one heartbeat away from the Presidency.... if McCain dies  (like all 80 year olds) then we have Miss February 1987 as the president ...


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Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
« Reply #68 on: August 29, 2008, 08:46:41 AM »
In case you haven't heard dickhead.......shes the GOVERNOR OF ALASKA.
I was comparing your executive vs. legislative standards.  ::)

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Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
« Reply #69 on: August 29, 2008, 08:48:42 AM »
In case you haven't heard dickhead.......shes the GOVERNOR OF ALASKA.
you know why all the TV shows in alsaka have the common thread of tons of guys and no chicks, cause there are no chicks in Alaska....she might be one of the 12 bitches in the whole state worth banging ... and like Alaska has so much in common with the mainland..... 90% of Alaska is uninhabited hahahahah
they fucked this one up, they were better off with Liberjew  or Romney ....here comes the backlash .. this bitch better start sucking dick, she has like 100,000,000 million to do ... lol hahahahha
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Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
« Reply #70 on: August 29, 2008, 08:49:54 AM »
Epic Friendship ...

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Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
« Reply #71 on: August 29, 2008, 08:50:51 AM »
Here is the REALLY fearful thought.

If Mccain used his poor judgement as evidenced by his Vice-President selection, one must shudder to think as to whom he shall choose for his cabinet and other appointed positions.

His Judicial selections would be a downright frightening debacle.  This should be a huge red flag.

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« Reply #72 on: August 29, 2008, 08:51:32 AM »
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Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
« Reply #73 on: August 29, 2008, 08:52:22 AM »
she was on CNBC Monday, rattled by a standard line of VP questioning by maria Bartiromo.

Giggly and shit.  

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Re: McCain announces his VP selection!
« Reply #74 on: August 29, 2008, 08:53:51 AM »
Here is the REALLY fearful thought.

If Mccain used his poor judgement as evidenced by his Vice-President selection, one must shudder to think as to whom he shall choose for his cabinet and other appointed positions.

His Judicial selections would be a downright frightening debacle.  This should be a huge red flag.
I agree.... how can this lady step up to the the president  if the old man croaks
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