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Re: For the Dorian haters, eat this. (pic)
« Reply #50 on: September 08, 2008, 06:53:49 PM »

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Re: For the Dorian haters, eat this. (pic)
« Reply #51 on: September 08, 2008, 06:56:46 PM »
LMFAO ' cobra look ' I seen that in the IFBB judging criteria lol

calves are just as important as biceps in this pose and is forearms and is balance & proportion thats how its done


lol cobra look


continue with your meltdown everytime a great pic of Yates is posted  ;)

 I took that phrase directly from Joe Weider's Mr. olympia Training Encyclopedia, describing Lee Haney's front double bi.

talk to them..

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Re: For the Dorian haters, eat this. (pic)
« Reply #52 on: September 08, 2008, 06:57:28 PM »
cobra look >> keg look

lol
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Re: For the Dorian haters, eat this. (pic)
« Reply #53 on: September 08, 2008, 06:59:03 PM »
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continue with your meltdown everytime a great pic of Yates is posted 

thats not very often, if you notice..

dorian gets owned most of the time in pics..

thats why his rep is so bad - both on the boards and with sites like Muscletime..

ever notice you always have to defend him and come up with excuses for his getting owned? ::)

ever stop and think why? ::)
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Re: For the Dorian haters, eat this. (pic)
« Reply #54 on: September 08, 2008, 06:59:22 PM »
The comparisons of the compulsory poses cannot be overemphasized
as these comparisons will help the judge to decide
which competitor has the superior physique from the standpoint of
muscular bulk, balanced development, muscular density and
definition.

Front Double Biceps (see Figure 1)
Standing face front to the judges, with the legs and feet
in-line and a short distance apart, the competitor will raise
both arms to shoulder level and bend them at the elbows.
The hands should be clenched and turned down so as to
cause a contraction of the biceps and forearm muscles,
which are the main muscle groups that are to be assessed
in this pose. In addition, the competitor should attempt
to contract as many other muscles as possible as the
judges will be surveying the whole physique, from head to
toe.

The judge will first survey the biceps muscles looking for a
full, peaked development of the muscle, noting whether
or not there is a defined split between the anterior and
posterior sections of the biceps, and will continue the
head-to-toe survey by observing the development of the
forearms, deltoids, pectorals, pec-delt tie-ins, abdominals,
thighs, and calves. The judge will also look for muscle
density, definition, and overall balance.


Notice they mention forearms , notice they mention calves , notice they mention density , , notice they mention overall balance , all rounds are physique rounds so while Ronnie may meet PART of the criteria better than Dorian OVERALL when all things are considered Dorian beats Ronnie in this and every other pose and why? because ALL ROUNDS ARE PHYSIQUE ROUNDS

Dorian has the clear advantage in density & dryness , clear edge in balance & proportion , clear advantage in posing & presentation , he's more complete and depending on the year he beats Ronnie in muscular bulk , cherry pick all you like Dorian satisfies the majority of the criteria better than Ronnie

now wonder why Kevin Horton said your credibility was seriously compromised LMFAO first using fake pics then making up quotes LOL

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Re: For the Dorian haters, eat this. (pic)
« Reply #55 on: September 08, 2008, 06:59:55 PM »
I took that phrase directly from Joe Weider's Mr. olympia Training Encyclopedia, describing Lee Haney's front double bi.

talk to them..

 ::)

I didn't see it in the IFBB judging criteria I posted  ;)

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Re: For the Dorian haters, eat this. (pic)
« Reply #56 on: September 08, 2008, 07:00:46 PM »
the master of dorian photoshopping babbling on again, to the defense of his hero being owned yet again by a peak Ronnie Coleman.. ::)
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Re: For the Dorian haters, eat this. (pic)
« Reply #57 on: September 08, 2008, 07:03:07 PM »
thats not very often, if you notice..

dorian gets owned most of the time in pics..

thats why his rep is so bad - both on the boards and with sites like Muscletime..

ever notice you always have to defend him and come up with excuses for his getting owned? ::)

ever stop and think why? ::)

no its not often because you and the fan-boys post the worse shots possible LMFAO and Dorian gets owned NO WHERE his rep is bad on the boards because of ignorant fan-boys who's feelings were hurt because their heros got their asses kicked lol and muscletime has the opinion Kev should have won in 92 so that means what?

Shawn Ray said Ronnie shouldn't have won in 1998 LOL that means what? its true?

see shot credibility  ;)

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Re: For the Dorian haters, eat this. (pic)
« Reply #58 on: September 08, 2008, 07:06:41 PM »
the master of dorian photoshopping babbling on again, to the defense of his hero being owned yet again by a peak Ronnie Coleman.. ::)

the master of lies because you have NO proof , all you can do is claim I photoshopped pics I actually PROVED your boy did  ;) until then keep iceskating uphill

Hulkster - knowingly used photoshopped pics
Hulkster - made up a quote which I busted you on
Hulkster - tried to deceive Kevin Horton by giving forcedreps quote and trying to pass it off as Bizzy lol
Hulkster - fan-boy who is Teh Gay and has zero credibility lol

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Re: For the Dorian haters, eat this. (pic)
« Reply #59 on: September 08, 2008, 07:09:08 PM »
and they're off! 

How about this...we'll assume your arguments for any thread concerning Dorian or Ronnie from now till the end of time...this way you don't have to post anymore and others can take a shot:D

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Re: For the Dorian haters, eat this. (pic)
« Reply #60 on: September 08, 2008, 07:11:17 PM »
no its not often because you and the fan-boys post the worse shots possible LMFAO and Dorian gets owned NO WHERE his rep is bad on the boards because of ignorant fan-boys who's feelings were hurt because their heros got their asses kicked lol and muscletime has the opinion Kev should have won in 92 so that means what?

Shawn Ray said Ronnie shouldn't have won in 1998 LOL that means what? its true?

see shot credibility  ;)

LOL so now Muscletime is a bunch of 'ignorant fanboys'? ::)

are you for real? ::)

even they say dorian didn't deserve to win some of his Olympias...
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Re: For the Dorian haters, eat this. (pic)
« Reply #61 on: September 08, 2008, 07:11:23 PM »
yes, because what I think is good is not what the judges think.. ::)

well, if that is the case, why has Ronnie won more contests than any other man alive, 2 more Mr olympias than dorian, including the Arnold Classic, a contest that dorian would never have been capable of winning?

LOL

you are a piece of work.. ::)

who cares how many contests Ronnie won? what is his win/loss ratio ? just 40% LMFAO what is Dorian's 88% yeah I thought so , Ronnie had to compete in every contest he could he wasn't a winner right out of the box like Yates  ;) and he won two more Olympias because he was healthier , and against who? guys Dorian crushed at their primes lol Ronnie beat Jay & Dex OOOOOOHHH lol and Dorian NEVER wanted to compete in the Arnold there was one contest and thats the Mr Olympia

Hulkster = zero credibility  ;)

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Re: For the Dorian haters, eat this. (pic)
« Reply #62 on: September 08, 2008, 07:13:41 PM »
but of that 88% winning percentage how many were truly deserving?

not many if you ask industry insiders like Muscletime..and most of the bb community..apparently.


dorian gets bashed more than any other Mr. O in terms of physique.

just look around...
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Re: For the Dorian haters, eat this. (pic)
« Reply #63 on: September 08, 2008, 07:17:03 PM »
LOL so now Muscletime is a bunch of 'ignorant fanboys'? ::)

are you for real? ::)

even they say dorian didn't deserve to win some of his Olympias...

Who is Muscletime? they have their opinion does it make it right? if thats the case you're fucked  ;)

 Shawn Ray
Ronnie Coleman was the most improved bodybuilder , and they should have an award for that but it SHOULDN'T be the overall title. Ronnie Coleman won the Mr Olympia for making the most improvement.

Ronnie does NOT have the complete physique. He has a certain degree of shape and detail but , let's be honest , he has a lot of weaknesses : calves , hamstrings , midsection. He has flaws on his physique that you just can't find on my physique or Flex Wheeler's physique.

Did they even count the posing routine? Ronnie Coleman is never going to be remembered for a posing routine.


Shawn doesn't feel Ronnie deserved the 1998 Mr Olympia does this now mean its true? LMFAO I love your retard logic

Kevin Levrone on the 2000/2001 Mr Olympias

The plain truth is that I beat Ronnie last year [2000] and Jay Cutler beat Ronnie this year. You should not win the Mr. Olympia if your stomach is hanging out -- period. Last year, I patted Ronnie's stomach during the posedown to draw attention to the fact that he was bloated. That tactic obviously didn't work, and Ronnie beat me in the posedown to successfully defend his title for a third straight Mr. O triumph.


So now the show rolls around and Jay Cutler beats Ronnie in both prejudging rounds: symmetry and muscularity. Ronnie was spilling over with too much water during the muscularity round, and Cutler took it to him in many of the poses that Coleman usually dominates.

How can Cutler lose this contest if he wins in both symmetry and muscularity? How can Ronnie retain his title if his midsection is bloated and distended? Why should the fans get behind a champion who can't present an aesthetic image of what bodybuilding is supposed to be all about?

I'm talking about classical proportions, perfect symmetry and ideal conditioning. Based on that ideal, I should have won the Sandow in 2000, and Cutler should have taken it in 2001.

The fans deserve better than what they are getting. I'm already working hard to ensure that, in 2002, a true peoples' champ can strip the title away from Ronnie Coleman.


uh Oh Ronnie didn't win these either because someone said so

Jon Hotten Muscle :
[Coleman's 1998 Olympia victory] was not a definitive win. In 99, Big Ron was lucky to defeat Flex Wheeler again. Levrone thought he'd beaten him twice, in 2000 and 2002. At the 2002 show, Levrone had won both of the evening rounds (a year on, at the Olympia press conference before the 2003 show, Coleman would chide Levrone, asking him, 'When was the last time you beat me?' Levrone replied, 'Last year.'). In 2001, Jay Cutler beat Ronnie in both the first two rounds and lost by four points.


uh oh Levrone again claing Ronnie lost in 2002 LMFAO and he was LUCKY to beat Flex in 1999 , lets see according to these people Ronnie lost in 1998/1999/2000/2001/2002 LMFAO and who are you to argue with these people they're not 'fan-boys ' lol

Owned using your own logic

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Re: For the Dorian haters, eat this. (pic)
« Reply #64 on: September 08, 2008, 07:18:43 PM »
ND is melting down and on the defensive as he always is. ::)

next thing he will be photoshopping more dorian pics, something that he does so well..

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Re: For the Dorian haters, eat this. (pic)
« Reply #65 on: September 08, 2008, 07:20:17 PM »
but of that 88% winning percentage how many were truly deserving?

not many if you ask industry insiders like Muscletime..and most of the bb community..apparently.


dorian gets bashed more than any other Mr. O in terms of physique.

just look around...

See above LOL

and stop trying to speak for the ' bb community ' you and a bunch of ball lickers aren't the bodybuilding community you're a bunch of ignorant fan-boys who don't even know how contests are judged when you're saying one guy should beat another because he has that ' cobra look ' and he has more ' lumpiness ' LMFAO

Dorian gets bashed because he beat Ronnie , Nasser , Flex , Ray , Levrone , and everyone else , the most dominating bodybuilder of all-time , Dorian owns your mind

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Re: For the Dorian haters, eat this. (pic)
« Reply #66 on: September 08, 2008, 07:22:31 PM »
ND is melting down and on the defensive as he always is. ::)

next thing he will be photoshopping more dorian pics, something that he does so well..



I own you at will , thats why you wouldn't dare touch the judging criteria and my comments on why Yates meets it better

you're melting down left & right , things are seriously bad for you when Kevin Horton calls you a FAG and says your credibility is shot LMFAO

Dorian controls your mind kid and I crush your stupidity  ;)

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Re: For the Dorian haters, eat this. (pic)
« Reply #67 on: September 08, 2008, 07:52:58 PM »
and they're off! 

How about this...we'll assume your arguments for any thread concerning Dorian or Ronnie from now till the end of time...this way you don't have to post anymore and others can take a shot:D

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Re: For the Dorian haters, eat this. (pic)
« Reply #68 on: September 08, 2008, 08:43:04 PM »
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Re: For the Dorian haters, eat this. (pic)
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Re: For the Dorian haters, eat this. (pic)
« Reply #70 on: September 08, 2008, 10:45:22 PM »
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what happened to your avatar you karate master.

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Re: For the Dorian haters, eat this. (pic)
« Reply #71 on: September 08, 2008, 10:47:45 PM »
Complete from head to toe

Great pic of Dorian. The man was made out of granite that year, as well as 1995. His 2 best showings imo.

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Re: For the Dorian haters, eat this. (pic)
« Reply #72 on: September 08, 2008, 11:40:25 PM »
The worst Mr. Olympia in history.
The first Mr. Olympia with a GH gut and one biceps only.
Pathetic.

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Re: For the Dorian haters, eat this. (pic)
« Reply #73 on: September 09, 2008, 12:30:13 AM »
Average at best.

So that puts you WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY below average. How is it to self-own yourself
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Re: For the Dorian haters, eat this. (pic)
« Reply #74 on: September 09, 2008, 12:43:18 AM »
Dorian is barely in Ronnie's league.  The Bodybuilding community will talk about Ronnie for many years.  The "legend" of Dorian began to fade the moment he won stole his sixth sandow.

The dude was great in terms of his condition, back lat spread and calves out side of that he is not special.  As time goes on people will see how unspecial Dorian was and how special Ronnie was.

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