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Re: Obama: 'Lipstick on a pig'
« Reply #25 on: September 09, 2008, 09:19:07 PM »
So your saying you have a feeling, because you've done it before, and know the feeling? Or you have a feeling because it's an urge you want to satisfy?



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Re: Obama: 'Lipstick on a pig'
« Reply #26 on: September 09, 2008, 09:22:50 PM »
blah blah blah

I thought a pig squeals?

Blah blah blah? Is that the noise you hear often, when your making "pigs squeal"

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Re: Obama: 'Lipstick on a pig'
« Reply #27 on: September 10, 2008, 05:37:44 AM »
I never said I would lose my home, where did you get that from? No, your right, it wouldn't benefit me but all be damned if I'm going to give my money and liberal or not, I don't think anyone on here would want that either. What person in their right mind would want to vote to give up half of their paycheck?
It's communism and I ain't freaking Robin Hood.

where did you get this figure from?

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Re: Obama: 'Lipstick on a pig'
« Reply #28 on: September 10, 2008, 05:48:22 AM »
Uhhh..."lipstick on a pig" is a commonly used phrase. Sarah "I Don't Do Interviews Unless You Promise To Kiss My Fanny" Palin does not own the rights to the word "lipstick" because she used it in a speech.  ::)

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John McCain in Iowa on 10/11/2007 referring to Hillary Clinton's health care plan as putting "lipstick on the pig, but it's still a pig"



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Re: Obama: 'Lipstick on a pig'
« Reply #29 on: September 10, 2008, 05:49:21 AM »
I don't think this is a significant issue or problem.

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Re: Obama: 'Lipstick on a pig'
« Reply #30 on: September 10, 2008, 06:07:35 AM »
I don't think this is a significant issue or problem.

New york media loves drama.  they're running with it today.  Yes, the 'leftist lib media'. 

Cheney used it, mccain used it.  it's a common phrase.

however, since palin is the only one in the race with a lipstick, and she's always making lipstick jokes, they are saying he was attacking her, and now you have mccain campaign talking about how offensive that was to women.

They should harden the fvck up.  When Putin sets up a middle eastern missile defense shield, is she going to have women's groups crying on MSNBC about how offended they are?

I want a TOUGH Muther Fvcker running the USA in this tough world.  I don't want someone whining about how offended they are all day long.

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Re: Obama: 'Lipstick on a pig'
« Reply #31 on: September 10, 2008, 06:36:29 AM »
Amie Parnes reports from Lebanon, VA:

Obama poked fun of McCain and Palin's new "change" mantra.

"You can put lipstick on a pig," he said as the crowd cheered. "It's still a pig."

"You can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper called change. It's still gonna stink."

"We've had enough of the same old thing."

The crowd apparently took the "lipstick" line as a reference to Palin, who described the difference between a hockey mom and a pit bull in a single word: "lipstick."


Here we go....Obama is sinking fast. I thought the Obamessiah was above this


This looks like typical polical BS where he's playing to his base.  I don't see what makes it special or why it would indicate Obama is sinking fast.

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Re: Obama: 'Lipstick on a pig'
« Reply #32 on: September 10, 2008, 06:41:27 AM »
Obamas comment was directed at McCain's newfound claim that he is an agent of change.  It had nothing to do with Palin and I'm sure McCain knows this.

McCain seems to be repeating this strategy of pretending to be offended over non-existent insults.

The irony is that Palins sole purpose seems to be to launch insults at both Obama/Biden while at the same time demanding that she be treated with deference and respect (direct quote from Rick Davis - McCain's campaign manager).  


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Re: Obama: 'Lipstick on a pig'
« Reply #33 on: September 10, 2008, 06:45:34 AM »
If/when palin overplays the offended woman card - just as Hilary did - the backlash could be rough.

Hilary had some initial success from followers with her whining about the boys piling on.  however, because of it, she lost.  She lost that veneer of toughness.  If palin is dumb enough to grab a mic and complain about it, you'll see a lot of her testosterone vote realize "this chick isn't tough after all - if she's complaining on FOX News because of one lipstick comment, how in the world can she handle Iran or Russia cutting oil or starting a war?"

Mccain has issues, but he is tough.  Biden too.  Obama also - he's not the one whining on tv about being offended.  Palinary is the only one doing that.

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Re: Obama: 'Lipstick on a pig'
« Reply #34 on: September 10, 2008, 06:54:32 AM »
If/when palin overplays the offended woman card - just as Hilary did - the backlash could be rough.

Hilary had some initial success from followers with her whining about the boys piling on.  however, because of it, she lost.  She lost that veneer of toughness.  If palin is dumb enough to grab a mic and complain about it, you'll see a lot of her testosterone vote realize "this chick isn't tough after all - if she's complaining on FOX News because of one lipstick comment, how in the world can she handle Iran or Russia cutting oil or starting a war?"

Mccain has issues, but he is tough.  Biden too.  Obama also - he's not the one whining on tv about being offended.  Palinary is the only one doing that.

McCain/Palin about an non-existent insult which, IMO, is even more pathetic.   

All I've heard from Palin are insults directed at Obama and misleading (at best) claims about her own record. 

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Re: Obama: 'Lipstick on a pig'
« Reply #35 on: September 10, 2008, 07:02:48 AM »
Amie Parnes reports from Lebanon, VA:

Obama poked fun of McCain and Palin's new "change" mantra.

"You can put lipstick on a pig," he said as the crowd cheered. "It's still a pig."

"You can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper called change. It's still gonna stink."

"We've had enough of the same old thing."

The crowd apparently took the "lipstick" line as a reference to Palin, who described the difference between a hockey mom and a pit bull in a single word: "lipstick."


Here we go....Obama is sinking fast. I thought the Obamessiah was above this



LOL....Yeah these issues and policies  huh   ::)  ....you guys make me fuckin sick..soundbyte media shit, 2 phrases that become a story.  Fuckin children

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Re: Obama: 'Lipstick on a pig'
« Reply #36 on: September 10, 2008, 07:05:47 AM »
Its an issue because Obama is for change and not the same old politics....blah blah blah...well he's as full of shit as the rest of them except he has no experience.
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Re: Obama: 'Lipstick on a pig'
« Reply #37 on: September 10, 2008, 07:07:33 AM »

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Re: Obama: 'Lipstick on a pig'
« Reply #38 on: September 10, 2008, 07:28:46 AM »
Its an issue because Obama is for change and not the same old politics....blah blah blah...well he's as full of shit as the rest of them except he has no experience.
Experience is really not important unless the candidate has no idea how government works.  At this point, all the candidates have a pretty good idea of the mechnisms of government.

Yeah, Obama does give into rhetorical excesses, no doubt.  Ideas are what this is election is about.  It's what all elections are about--good ideas, bad ideas, fabricated postions, mischaracterized priorities.  In that sense, McCain's economic plan is more 'borrow and spending' where we are under the veil of a 'head-in-the-sand' approach to government.  Everything's great with the economy and the debt...have another tax cut sport!

That approach is literally bankrupting this country.  The US cannot afford another Bush term and that's what McCain will deliver.

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Re: Obama: 'Lipstick on a pig'
« Reply #39 on: September 10, 2008, 07:30:12 AM »
Sure enough.

Today, camp mccain's efforts are totally devoted to announcing how upset they are about Obama's sexism.

They're acting like little bitches.  Palin returns to alaska today, under the shadow of obama attacking her as a pig.

man the fvck up, republicans.  stop acting like offended bitches.

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Re: Obama: 'Lipstick on a pig'
« Reply #40 on: September 10, 2008, 07:31:32 AM »
Sure enough.

Today, camp mccain's efforts are totally devoted to announcing how upset they are about Obama's sexism.

They're acting like little bitches.  Palin returns to alaska today, under the shadow of obama attacking her as a pig.

man the fvck up, republicans.  stop acting like offended bitches.


punk ass sound byte politics...

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Re: Obama: 'Lipstick on a pig'
« Reply #41 on: September 10, 2008, 07:32:24 AM »
Does she?


She's not the Republican nominee for president. She would appear to be aiding the ticket and kicking the dogshit out of Obama..as opposed to the Dem VP, who we barely hear from...but she's doing  more to get McCain elected then anybody else.

240 Obama whines incessantly about unfair media, whats off limits, what people can say..what questions he can be asked...give me a break.
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Re: Obama: 'Lipstick on a pig'
« Reply #42 on: September 10, 2008, 07:45:38 AM »

She's not the Republican nominee for president. She would appear to be aiding the ticket and kicking the dogshit out of Obama..as opposed to the Dem VP, who we barely hear from...but she's doing  more to get McCain elected then anybody else.

240 Obama whines incessantly about unfair media, whats off limits, what people can say..what questions he can be asked...give me a break.

Obama could have stooped to repub levels and just went in on her family like the repubs would have done him if the tables were turned. But he said that goin in on Palins family was over the line.

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Re: Obama: 'Lipstick on a pig'
« Reply #43 on: September 10, 2008, 07:54:02 AM »
Ah..in case u missed it, it was the Dems who went after her family.  ::)
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Re: Obama: 'Lipstick on a pig'
« Reply #44 on: September 10, 2008, 08:00:50 AM »
apparently some are grasping at straws...  since they can't grasp issues...  hypocrisy is a bitch

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A Piggish Debate

September 09, 2008 8:42 PM

Last October, asked about Sen. Hillary Clinton's health care plan, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., was blunt.

McCain said Clinton's proposal was “eerily” similar to the ill-fated plan she devised in 1993.

“I think they put some lipstick on a pig,” he said, “but it’s still a pig.”

A common expression, right?

McCain surely wasn't calling Clinton a pig.

After all, McCain's former press secretary, Torie Clarke, wrote a book called "Lipstick on a Pig: Winning in the No-Spin Era."

Elizabeth Edwards told some health journalists that McCain's health care plan was like “painting lipstick on a pig.”

Tonight Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., said of McCain painting himself as a change agent, "You know, you can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig."

The crowd rose and applauded.

(Some of them no doubt were thinking he may have been in some way alluding to Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin's ad lib during her vice presidential nomination acceptance speech last week, "What's the difference between a hockey mom and a pit bull? Lipstick.")

"You can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper called 'change,'" Obama continued, "it's still gonna stink after eight years. We’ve had enough of the same old thing! It’s time to bring about real change to Washington.  And that’s the choice you’ve got in this election."

Obama's campaign insisted that he was not alluding to Palin at all.

"That expression is older than my grandfather's grandfather," said Obama campaign spox Jen Psaki, "and it means that you can dress something up but it doesn't change what it is. He was talking pretty clearly about the fact that you can't just call yourself change when you've voted with George Bush 90 percent of the time."

Obama has used the expression before. Last September, around the time McCain said it about Clinton's health care plan.

"I think that both Gen. Petraeus and Ambassador Crocker are capable people who have been given an impossible assignment," Obama said in a telephone interview. "George Bush has given a mission to Gen. Petraeus, and he has done his best to try to figure out how to put lipstick on a pig."

Why should anyone believe McCain didn't mean it about Hillary Clinton, but Obama meant it about Palin?

And yet, the inaugural conference call of what the McCain-Palin campaign is calling the "Palin Truth Squad" addressed Obama's remark.

And interestingly, the Truth Squad call was full of half-truths and statements that weren't true at all.

Speaking on behalf of the McCain campaign, former Massachusetts Gov. Jane Swift tonight flatly stated that Obama had called Palin a pig.

"[T]he formation of the Palin Truth Squad couldn't have happened too soon, as we saw when Sen. Obama in Lebanon, Va., this evening uttered what I can only deem to be disgraceful comments comparing our vice presidential nominee Gov. Palin to a pig," Swift said.

"Sen. Obama owes Gov. Palin an apology," she said.

Asked why she was so confident Obama was "comparing" Palin to a pig, she said Palin was the only one of the four candidates on both parties' tickets who wears lipstick.

"She is the only one of the four candidates for president, or the only vice presidential candidate who wears lipstick," Swift said. "I mean, it seemed to me a very gendered comment."

But, Swift added, if "as part of his apology Sen. Obama wants to say, no, he was calling Sen. McCain -- who is a true hero in our country -- a pig, then I suppose we could wait en masse for an apology to that, as well."

It was pointed out to Swift that, after the line about the pig, Obama had said, "You can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper called 'change,' it's still gonna stink after eight years."

Swift then suggested that Obama was calling McCain a fish.

"I have a fourth-grader and two second-graders at home," she said. "I would not teach them that this is sort of a high-minded debate on policy issues when they are calling people rotten old fish or a pig. In fact, it sounds a lot like some of the least intelligent debates on the playground sound like at our elementary school."

A reporter then reminded Swift that in December, McCain was asked about criticisms coming his way from then-opponent Gov. Mitt Romney, R-Mass., and McCain replied, "Never get into a wrestling match with a pig. You both get dirty, and the pig likes it."

Was McCain calling Romney a pig? a reporter asked Swift.

Of course not, Swift said.

It seems to me we should have one rule. If Obama was calling Palin a pig, then McCain was calling Hillary Clinton one. If McCain wasn't, then Obama wa

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Re: Obama: 'Lipstick on a pig'
« Reply #45 on: September 10, 2008, 08:25:28 AM »
Obama is a fake.

Just recently in an interview with MSNBC, Obama stated that the media should "POLICE" McCain and the Republicans.

I don't think it is the media's job to "police" anyone. Their job is to report the facts and what either candidate says.

"Police". Very bad word to use. Seems like Obama is not too good of a speaker without a teleprompter and without memorizing a prepared speech.

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Re: Obama: 'Lipstick on a pig'
« Reply #46 on: September 10, 2008, 08:27:09 AM »
Obama is a fake.

Just recently in an interview with MSNBC, Obama stated that the media should "POLICE" McCain and the Republicans.

I don't think it is the media's job to "police" anyone. Their job is to report the facts and what either candidate says.

"Police". Very bad word to use. Seems like Obama is not too good of a speaker without a teleprompter and without memorizing a prepared speech.


SOUNDBYTE POLITICS AGAIN....FUCKIN KIDS

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Re: Obama: 'Lipstick on a pig'
« Reply #47 on: September 10, 2008, 08:51:42 AM »

SOUNDBYTE POLITICS AGAIN....FUCKIN KIDS

Yet, you can't argue against it.

If "SOUNDBYTE POLITICS AGAIN" is the best response you have, please do us a favor and drown yourself in a septic tank. 

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Re: Obama: 'Lipstick on a pig'
« Reply #48 on: September 10, 2008, 08:58:36 AM »
Obama is a fake.

Just recently in an interview with MSNBC, Obama stated that the media should "POLICE" McCain and the Republicans.

I don't think it is the media's job to "police" anyone. Their job is to report the facts and what either candidate says.

"Police". Very bad word to use. Seems like Obama is not too good of a speaker without a teleprompter and without memorizing a prepared speech.
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Spot on....i think u could play a drinking game on how many times he says um but u'd die of alcohol poisoning
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Re: Obama: 'Lipstick on a pig'
« Reply #49 on: September 10, 2008, 08:59:47 AM »
Yet, you can't argue against it.

If "SOUNDBYTE POLITICS AGAIN" is the best response you have, please do us a favor and drown yourself in a septic tank. 

Yo chill with all that septic shit...

now....

Soundbyte, catch phrase politics is a dumb ass way to choose a public offical. "He said this and it dosent sound good"
Are you shittin me? You sound like a bitchy ass girl...Look at policies and how they will affect you and your family. Not waiting for some kind of verbal slip up to jump on. Fuckin child