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Re: 2 russian bombers land in venezuela
« Reply #50 on: September 11, 2008, 02:46:32 PM »
They are okay, but no match for US and Israeli pilots.

Dju actually think the Israeli's would risk a single fighter pilot in a war that doesn't directly involve them?

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Re: 2 russian bombers land in venezuela
« Reply #51 on: September 11, 2008, 02:47:59 PM »
Sort of off topic: Wasn't the Mob going to assassinate Castro at one point?  That would have been kind of neat, lol

They took out Oswald instead, ...so it's taken us a while to get to the truth, ...but it's out there.  :D
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Re: 2 russian bombers land in venezuela
« Reply #52 on: September 11, 2008, 02:53:08 PM »
Dju actually think the Israeli's would risk a single fighter pilot in a war that doesn't directly involve them?



No.  I'm just comparing pilots.  Israel has some of the best pilots in the world.

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Re: 2 russian bombers land in venezuela
« Reply #53 on: September 11, 2008, 02:55:09 PM »
They are okay, but no match for US and Israeli pilots.

Thats my point...raise ur hand if ur country has very highly trained military that has years of actual combat experience. Oh wait.....and yes while Russia has done a few things, give me a break......all those pictures of them bombing the shit out of the Georgian capital...folks that was supposed to be precision bombing. They suck, they have a huge rusting military. Yes in  few years they could be a relative threat, with their petro dollars etc...but they are much more dangerous locally, not globally. Two bombers, without refuelers, AWACS, fighter escort are near worthless. Of all the things we're really good at, we're really really really good at knocking ur shit down, sinking ur shit, and jamming ur shit. I don't believe we'd even need to send any manned aircraft to sink the vaunted Venezuelan navy. Its easier to do that then take down a small village  sitting on some Afghan mountain.
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Re: 2 russian bombers land in venezuela
« Reply #54 on: September 11, 2008, 02:58:13 PM »
Thats my point...raise ur hand if ur country has very highly trained military that has years of actual combat experience. Oh wait.....and yes while Russia has done a few things, give me a break......all those pictures of them bombing the shit out of the Georgian capital...folks that was supposed to be precision bombing. They suck, they have a huge rusting military. Yes in  few years they could be a relative threat, with their petro dollars etc...but they are much more dangerous locally, not globally. Two bombers, without refuelers, AWACS, fighter escort are near worthless. Of all the things we're really good at, we're really really really good at knocking ur shit down, sinking ur shit, and jamming ur shit. I don't believe we'd even need to send any manned aircraft to sink the vaunted Venezuelan navy. Its easier to do that then take down a small village  sitting on some Afghan mountain.

Watch out!  The Venezuelan military is highly trained for parades.  So is the military of many other countries.   :)

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Re: 2 russian bombers land in venezuela
« Reply #55 on: September 11, 2008, 03:01:02 PM »
Its funny, we trained alot of their Officers etc, I'm sure their thrilled with him.
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Re: 2 russian bombers land in venezuela
« Reply #56 on: September 11, 2008, 03:08:22 PM »
Its funny, we trained alot of their Officers etc, I'm sure their thrilled with him.

Venezuela and the US were friends for many years.  I hope it goes back to that soon.  Chavez is not as smart as Castro, and he is already making a lot of Venezuelans angry, even those who support him.  If he doesn't watch it, he'll get overthrown by his own people.

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Re: 2 russian bombers land in venezuela
« Reply #57 on: September 11, 2008, 03:10:59 PM »
We need another Right Wing nutbag to step up. I pine for the good old "school of the America" days ;D
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Re: 2 russian bombers land in venezuela
« Reply #58 on: September 11, 2008, 03:14:17 PM »
We need another Right Wing nutbag to step up. I pine for the good old "school of the America" days ;D

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Re: 2 russian bombers land in venezuela
« Reply #59 on: September 11, 2008, 03:15:34 PM »
We need another Right Wing nutbag to step up. I pine for the good old "school of the America" days ;D

You would  :'(
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Re: 2 russian bombers land in venezuela
« Reply #60 on: September 11, 2008, 03:18:07 PM »
This is what heppened to the last Venezuelan dictator, Pérez Jiménez’s, in 1957.

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Pérez Jiménez’s illegitimacy was so patent that some officers were conspiring to overthrow him. There was also some cautious civilian clandestine agitation. On the last day of 1957, a military uprising coordinated by officers of air and tank forces struck, but the coordination was not that good. The air force rebels flew over Caracas and dropped randomly some bombs while a commander started out from Maracay with a column of tanks. Somehow the signals got crossed, the tanks turned back, and the pilots fled the country. These officers probably thought that Pérez Jiménez would turn tail in the face of this demonstration, but the bulk of the armed forces remained loyal. However, this show of defiance did set off a sequence of events which eventually made Pérez Jiménez fear for his political survival.

The underground civilian opponents started goading the people in Caracas, where they needed little goading and were out in the streets whenever and wherever they could. The repressive secret police rounded up all civilian suspects, but this was like trying to do the little Dutch boy trick. The popular resistance to the government was not just a pardo thing and reached to all levels of society. The navy had taken a non-committal attitude in a situation where its guns were not of any service. It was not in on any conspiracy. There were signs of restiveness in the land forces with some officers working to rules, so to speak, but there was not at any time a military insurrection. But the crowds were getting bigger and bigger. Finally, with various suitcases stuffed with dollars, Pérez Jiménez took off in his private DC-3 and sought refuge in the Dominican Republic, where his resilient colleague, Rafael Leonidas Trujillo, had been ruling since 1930.

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Re: 2 russian bombers land in venezuela
« Reply #61 on: September 11, 2008, 03:19:16 PM »
Well it would be camps for the leftie's and tequila fridays for the righty's. I might go with clothing optional saturdays in the emperial palace
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Re: 2 russian bombers land in venezuela
« Reply #62 on: September 11, 2008, 03:28:27 PM »
Thats my point...raise ur hand if ur country has very highly trained military that has years of actual combat experience. Oh wait.....and yes while Russia has done a few things, give me a break......all those pictures of them bombing the shit out of the Georgian capital...folks that was supposed to be precision bombing. They suck, they have a huge rusting military. Yes in  few years they could be a relative threat, with their petro dollars etc...but they are much more dangerous locally, not globally. Two bombers, without refuelers, AWACS, fighter escort are near worthless. Of all the things we're really good at, we're really really really good at knocking ur shit down, sinking ur shit, and jamming ur shit. I don't believe we'd even need to send any manned aircraft to sink the vaunted Venezuelan navy. Its easier to do that then take down a small village  sitting on some Afghan mountain.


Haha and America is about to lose it's fucking AAA credit rating around the world.  We will be where Russia sooner rather than later thanks to our "invincibility" around the world as you put it. 

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Re: 2 russian bombers land in venezuela
« Reply #63 on: September 11, 2008, 03:29:13 PM »
Only on paper, unless Castro is dead.  If Castro is still alive and conscious, Raul can't take a dump without Castro's permission.
zombie at best...  I doubt many decisions are coming from the barely breathing corpse.

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Re: 2 russian bombers land in venezuela
« Reply #64 on: September 11, 2008, 05:00:15 PM »
More and more people are pissed at us. I'm telling you, either we vote the Rumsfelds/Wolfowitzes outta power or the rest of the world is going to take us out.

ROFL...grow some balls.
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Re: 2 russian bombers land in venezuela
« Reply #65 on: September 11, 2008, 05:03:18 PM »
You liberals better move on out of the states, wouldn't want you getting into a fight you can't handle and are to scared to confront.

So put down your white flags and move on up to Canada, I hear it is a great place to live and they are so peaceful.
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Re: 2 russian bombers land in venezuela
« Reply #66 on: September 11, 2008, 05:39:35 PM »
You liberals better move on out of the states, wouldn't want you getting into a fight you can't handle and are to scared to confront.

So put down your white flags and move on up to Canada, I hear it is a great place to live and they are so peaceful.

You're officially the dumbest bastard on this board.  I urge everyone to ignore any further posts made by this jackass.

Thank you!
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Re: 2 russian bombers land in venezuela
« Reply #67 on: September 11, 2008, 06:55:04 PM »
You're officially the dumbest bastard on this board.  I urge everyone to ignore any further posts made by this jackass.

Thank you!

Typical response from an idiot who believes in censorship.  I on the other hand read, many posts I don't agree with. 

Pretty telling of your character and lack of tolerance.  Liberals like you are very hypocritical.  Your post exposed and proved what I am saying, is the truth.  Please be a man of you word and "ignore any further posts by this jackass".   :-*
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Re: 2 russian bombers land in venezuela
« Reply #68 on: September 11, 2008, 07:14:54 PM »
You liberals better move on out of the states, wouldn't want you getting into a fight you can't handle and are to scared to confront.

So put down your white flags and move on up to Canada, I hear it is a great place to live and they are so peaceful.
you move...  You're the psycho fools starting shit everywhere.  Don't blame us for thinking all out war is a last resort.  It used to be a rightwing notion too!!!  Before you all got neoconned in the membrain ;)

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Re: 2 russian bombers land in venezuela
« Reply #69 on: September 11, 2008, 07:18:42 PM »
you move...  You're the psycho fools starting shit everywhere.  Don't blame us for thinking all out war is a last resort.  It used to be a rightwing notion too!!!  Before you all got neoconned in the membrain ;)

Haven't heard one Republican threaten to leave the country if Obama wins. 

I do recall many Democrats saying that shit last election, hence my statement is a valid one.  Please don't take all of my posts so literally, there is not going to be a mass exodus of Democrats because they rarely do as they say.

I hope this clarified the context of my post.
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Re: 2 russian bombers land in venezuela
« Reply #70 on: September 11, 2008, 07:27:53 PM »
Haven't heard one Republican threaten to leave the country if Obama wins. 

I do recall many Democrats saying that shit last election, hence my statement is a valid one.  Please don't take all of my posts so literally, there is not going to be a mass exodus of Democrats because they rarely do as they say.

I hope this clarified the context of my post.
I just told you that you should be the one leaving.  You psychos are the people who hijacked the greatest country ever and are driving us at full speed toward your precious end times bullshit, while the rest of us are held hostage in the back seat.  So I don't care who said what, I'm saying you need to leave.  I've had enough of being told I need to leave, people like me are not the problem, you fools are.

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Re: 2 russian bombers land in venezuela
« Reply #71 on: September 11, 2008, 09:55:35 PM »
I just told you that you should be the one leaving.  You psychos are the people who hijacked the greatest country ever and are driving us at full speed toward your precious end times bullshit, while the rest of us are held hostage in the back seat.  So I don't care who said what, I'm saying you need to leave.  I've had enough of being told I need to leave, people like me are not the problem, you fools are.

Take your pansy ass to Canada and while you are there, remember how you lived off the freedom provided to you by men smarter and more brave than you in America.

Bottom line is liberal pussies had control of this county for too long and allowed terrorists to kill thousands and make mental midgets out of people similar to you who think, "terrorists just want to be listened to and be hugged".  Move along... <as O'Canada serenades your ass to the north>
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Re: 2 russian bombers land in venezuela
« Reply #72 on: September 11, 2008, 10:11:29 PM »
Take your pansy ass to Canada and while you are there, remember how you lived off the freedom provided to you by men smarter and more brave than you in America.

Bottom line is liberal pussies had control of this county for too long and allowed terrorists to kill thousands and make mental midgets out of people similar to you who think, "terrorists just want to be listened to and be hugged".  Move along... <as O'Canada serenades your ass to the north>
traitor meltdown...  Go back to school, study American History and government instead of shooting spit balls at the teacher.  Then come back and apologize for being the idiot neocon you are and maybe we'll let you stay.

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Re: 2 russian bombers land in venezuela
« Reply #73 on: September 11, 2008, 10:20:15 PM »
traitor meltdown...  Go back to school, study American History and government instead of shooting spit balls at the teacher.  Then come back and apologize for being the idiot neocon you are and maybe we'll let you stay.

Did I strike a nerve? 

Let me stay?  Censureship seems to be your theme tonight? 

I say you handle me and quit trying to abuse Mod status as a means of ridding the forum of alternative viewpoint.  LOSE YOUR Typical Left Wing Liberal agenda that talks about tolerance as long as the view is similar to theirs.

Now you "let me stay"  LMAO!



 
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