Atlantic City Pro - Luke Wood (pics)

[brudge]

From Luke

Yeah ok mate!! i made this shit up! I had a resting pulse rate of 100 plus but i was just making this up!! I could have easily said i took some injectable lasix or massive dosages of DNP or some other excuse but ive ALWAYS told the truth and this the TRUTH! how im still here is beyond me but bottom line i will be back and my true friends know im telling the truth. I dont give 2 shits what you think or anyone else! Im used to having people think the complete opposite so its no skin off my nose

http://www.anabolex.com/forums/aussie-corner/41161-lukes-explaination-milos-2.html#post634744

If you don't give two shits about what anyone thinks then why bother posting it on getbig. Obviously you are going to get carved...at least on this board.

[King_Raisin]

From Luke

Yeah ok mate!! i made this shit up! I had a resting pulse rate of 100 plus but i was just making this up!! I could have easily said i took some injectable lasix or massive dosages of DNP or some other excuse but ive ALWAYS told the truth and this the TRUTH! how im still here is beyond me but bottom line i will be back and my true friends know im telling the truth. I dont give 2 shits what you think or anyone else! Im used to having people think the complete opposite so its no skin off my nose

http://www.anabolex.com/forums/aussie-corner/41161-lukes-explaination-milos-2.html#post634744

Sorry, but if you feel the need to post pre-contest pics and then go stand on a stage in a thong then obviously you give a shit about what people think.  Nothing wrong with it, but to say he doesn't care what anyone thinks is BS.  Who the fuck cares about his excuses, he looked like Mike Morris up there, and he and Kamali should get together and talk about how they were in top 3, top 4 whatever...its funny only the C-level pros feel the need to make excuses for their shitty showings, I don't see Freeman bitching about being off for this show.

[gymguy]

He could have saved himself so much pain dieting and cardio the past 8 weeks. He was ready 8 weeks ago. You'd think he would know by now....he's been a pro a long time  Very Poor Planning.

[Harley Buckshot]

Thyroid is something I suggest to never mess with.  Even in medically prescribed dosages to patients with thyroid deficiencies, we can see significant side effects when the dose is too high. These dosages written here are crazy.  Guys, don't screw around with your thyroid.  In addition to the potential side effects, you can shut down your thyroid production, which can an absolute disaster. 

IMO, Luke looked magnificent in 2005 NY Pro...before manipulating so many variables.  Back to basics is my amateur and humble opinion.

shootfighter,

I agree with you here. Im sure even friggin dr's that truly KNOW THEIR SHIT wouldnt recommend it even if completely "monitored" for safety purposes.. it may work fine and no probs, but it only takes 1 time to do damage. Do u think the reason thyroid stimulation is so prevelant in bb'ing is due to the "extreme results" u get and totally disregarding the safety of it? Like "well, if Milos says its ok.... its ok".. Personally id stay as far away as possible from it.

[michael arvilla]

He needs to move forward/concentrate on redemption!

[Van_Bilderass]

In addition to the potential side effects, you can shut down your thyroid production, which can an absolute disaster. 

Aren't you a doc? You know that comment isn't medically supported. Do you know a lot of patients who shut down their thyroid for life?

[Van_Bilderass]

Even Arnold says in his encyclopedia how idiotic it is to manipulate your natural thyroid levels... given T3 will get u results, it is also a double edged sword, as i would say is quite apparent now. Isnt test and winny ever enough? 

shootfighter,

I agree with you here. Im sure even friggin dr's that truly KNOW THEIR SHIT wouldnt recommend it even if completely "monitored" for safety purposes.. it may work fine and no probs, but it only takes 1 time to do damage. Do u think the reason thyroid stimulation is so prevelant in bb'ing is due to the "extreme results" u get and totally disregarding the safety of it? Like "well, if Milos says its ok.... its ok".. Personally id stay as far away as possible from it.

Arnold used thyroid hormones. Fact. There are some here who have talked about one doc who "treated" Arnold. He put everyone on thyroid.

Overdosing thyroid is very dangerous. Thyroid gland damage is not common at all.

[Fatpanda]

Aren't you a doc? You know that comment isn't medically supported. Do you know a lot of patients who shut down their thyroid for life?

i agree, it is not medically supported, in even the most extreme long term usage of thyroid, the ntural production kicked back in within 2 weeks.

however no one has ever experimented with such a massive doseage before.

it wil be interesting if luke's thyroid recovers fully or not, if it does it should put the final nail in the coffin of these thyroid drug doom mongers.

[Van_Bilderass]

i agree, it is not medically supported, in even the most extreme long term usage of thyroid, the ntural production kicked back in within 2 weeks.

however no one has ever experimented with such a massive doseage before.

it wil be interesting if luke's thyroid recovers fully or not, if it does it should put the final nail in the coffin of these thyroid drug doom mongers.

Sure, this is an extreme case... if true this should go in the history books. I doubt anyone took this much thyroid ever, even in suicide attempt. My guess is the thyroid will be fine. There could be some other problems... with the heart etc. But a resting pulse of 100 is nothing. I would've guessed it much higher ODing this much.

[shootfighter1]

First & foremost, I worry about my friend and am so glad he didn't have a worse issue.

When we adjust thyroid dosages, we wait at least 6 weeks between serum testing...my point is that the half life is longer than many other meds & hormones.  I knew two people who had a thyroid crash.  1 went into a myxedema coma (Look it up).
Thyrotoxicosis can be deadly, causing various arrythmias.  I've also seen that.  At these doses, thats what I'd be worried about.
Bullshit its not medically supported....your used to seeing thyroid abnormalities that have been treated.  It can be serious.

[Van_Bilderass]

First & foremost, I worry about my friend and am so glad he didn't have a worse issue.

When we adjust thyroid dosages, we wait at least 6 weeks between serum testing...my point is that the half life is longer than many other meds & hormones.  I knew two people who had a thyroid crash.  1 went into a myxedema coma (Look it up).
Thyrotoxicosis can be deadly, causing various arrythmias.  I've also seen that.  At these doses, thats what I'd be worried about.
Bullshit its not medically supported....your used to seeing thyroid abnormalities that have been treated.  It can be serious.

Was the myxedema coma a result of thyroid hormone use in previously healthy people (healthy thyroid)? Thyroid hormone use can have severe sides - I'm just commenting on shutting down the thyroid permanently after using it for bb purposes. Do you know of that happening?

[Harley Buckshot]

Triacana and Cytomel seem to be the "main two".. but isnt their a disparity between the effects of the two? Even if mild...

[shootfighter1]

Most of the people that shut their thyroid down for a long period of time are treated with thyroid medicine and then monitored so I don't know how long is average.  I suppose it would depend on dose, duration of use, and individual suceptibility.  I'd have to do a lit search to answer better.
My basic point is that I've seen some bad cases so I would treat thyroid with great caution.

[nder98]

In my opinion, he def looks like he dropped his gear completely for some reason.

[Croatch]

Can't wait to see this guy completely off gear.  Another "iron warrior".

[nder98]

Can't wait to see this guy completely off gear.  Another "iron warrior".

He was pretty darn close...

[michael arvilla]

In my opinion, he def looks like he dropped his gear completely for some reason.

 In 2 weeks time tho could it really have this much effect?!?!??! (still should be in your system/doing what it does)
                     look at how full n freaky he is at 2 weeks out!

                     (even if he laid in bed for 2 weeks until the show he shouldn't look like he did on stage)

[honest]

No offence luke but next time the same shit will happen and there will be a different excuse.

[tbombz]

For those reading this thread the last few pages, Van Bilderass is the guy with the accurate info. 

[TechnoViking]

I just took a look at the video and although Luke was a mess on stage, I still having him beating Kamali by a single point...

[chaos]

For those reading this thread the last few pages, Van Bilderass is the guy with the accurate info. 

He always is.

[michael arvilla]

I just took a look at the video and although Luke was a mess on stage, I still having him beating Kamali by a single point...

  where is there a video of the show?

[shootfighter1]

I assume it would be very uncommon to have permanent thyroid shut down, typically we see problems for 4-8 weeks...but with thyroid abnormalities, that can seem like a long time and the medical risks are increased compared to altering some of the other hormones.  There was one person I knew who had to stay on thyroid medicine after using high doses without medical monitoring.  Again, the point is that it can be dangerous.
Take for instance the HTPA.  After exogenous androgens, particularly high doses and long duration...you can see some degree of HTPA dowregulation for 3-9 months.  I had to look this up in an endocrinology book & worked with an endocrine specialist for a patient with major problems after a prolonged cycle.  Of course, we told him to stay away from all anabolics!

[kreator]

let's say he's telling the truth about fucking up the dosages, but do you think this fool will stay away from that stuff from now on? i say hell no

[nder98]

In 2 weeks time tho could it really have this much effect?!?!??! (still should be in your system/doing what it does)
                     look at how full n freaky he is at 2 weeks out!

                     (even if he laid in bed for 2 weeks until the show he shouldn't look like he did on stage)

You'd be surprised Mike, I've seen guys come completly "off" and in a month they looked like they popped like a balloon.