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Re: The 250,000 dollar family
« Reply #50 on: October 27, 2008, 06:59:40 PM »
I never thought people would show so much animosity toward other people that strive to have the best life for themselves and their children. Do you think these families got their income handed to them on a silver platter?

  no i bet they worked hard for it but i also bet that a lot (not all) got a lot of breaks that the family's making 100 didn't get .....all you hear about is people not wanting to pull their weight.....i want high voltage power lines ...but not near my house...i eat pork but don't think of putting a pig farm anywheres near where i live... i want police to make sure i am safe but don't raise my taxes raise that guys over there everyone just keeps passing the f'ing buck and its stupid...tell you what since people don't think its fair that they are being penalized for being successfull...do better and get in the next bracket that isn't being taxed as bad
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Re: The 250,000 dollar family
« Reply #51 on: October 27, 2008, 07:12:50 PM »
boo f'ing hoo...i am sure these people wont be having to hit up the breadlines at worst they will have to give their daughters a Toyota instead of a Honda on the sweet sixteen birthday. Or, i know, how about you make your kids work for their cars and post secondary education (although with them working they wont have as much time to get loser pissed and take nudie photos of themselves for blinkys college girls thread) like thousands of others. That one family talking about their bills and how they had a hard time paying for their daughters uni as the younger one went to a expensive private school...shit if your kids so smart send them to public school if they do good there then yes they are smart...if they do good at a 15000 a year school ,guess what you bought 15000 dollars worth of tutoring and extra help and your kid is not as smart as you think... Christ i wish i made over 200 and all i had to do was go to an office yeah life sure is tuff.... fing pussys

Yay politics of ENVY.







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Re: The 250,000 dollar family
« Reply #52 on: October 27, 2008, 07:36:10 PM »
Yay politics of ENVY.








Seems like this thread has a lot of it going around.

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Re: The 250,000 dollar family
« Reply #53 on: October 27, 2008, 08:35:06 PM »
odilly.

FUCK YOU.


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Re: The 250,000 dollar family
« Reply #54 on: October 28, 2008, 01:34:27 AM »
correct me if im wrong.
but let's say under obamas plan tax rate is 25% for people making under 250k, and 35% for people making under 250k.

if you're making 249k you get taxed 25%
and if you're making over 250k, say 251k, you are not suddenly taxed 35% instead, but every dollar you make OVER 250k is taxed at 35%?
is this right?

Not sure of the exact numbers, ...but my understanding is that under Clinton, the rate was 39%.
Under Bush, he dropped the tax rate by 3 points, bringing it down to 36% for a limited period of time.
What Obama wants to do is to simply allow the tax cut to expire when it runs out, bringing it back to 39% again.

It's like a giant weekend sale at Macy's where you get 3% off on linens. Come Monday, regular prices apply.
Everyone is bitching because they want Obama to extend the sale on linens into the regular week, and Obama is saying we already put linens on sale on the weekend, ...during the week, we want consumers to save on food and clothing.  And the rich are saying, ...but we want more linens, ...and Obama is saying you have enough sheets, if you want more, you have to buy them at regular prices. This week, we're putting clothes and food on sale, 'cause these people can barely afford clothes or food. Macy's is gonna cut these guys a break 'cause you guys have had a break all weekend, but no one has given these guys a break yet on what they need :D
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Re: The 250,000 dollar family
« Reply #55 on: October 28, 2008, 04:24:50 AM »
Not sure of the exact numbers, ...but my understanding is that under Clinton, the rate was 39%.
Under Bush, he dropped the tax rate by 3 points, bringing it down to 36% for a limited period of time.
What Obama wants to do is to simply allow the tax cut to expire when it runs out, bringing it back to 39% again.

It's like a giant weekend sale at Macy's where you get 3% off on linens. Come Monday, regular prices apply.
Everyone is bitching because they want Obama to extend the sale on linens into the regular week, and Obama is saying we already put linens on sale on the weekend, ...during the week, we want consumers to save on food and clothing.  And the rich are saying, ...but we want more linens, ...and Obama is saying you have enough sheets, if you want more, you have to buy them at regular prices. This week, we're putting clothes and food on sale, 'cause these people can barely afford clothes or food. Macy's is gonna cut these guys a break 'cause you guys have had a break all weekend, but no one has given these guys a break yet on what they need :D
my question isnt the numbers but whether once you hit the 250k mark of income, whether you are taxed more on every dollar you make OVER 250k, or if ALL the money you make is taxed more once you hit 250k.

i think it's a horrible plan if it's the latter.

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Re: The 250,000 dollar family
« Reply #56 on: October 28, 2008, 06:59:31 AM »
What 'good things' does it do? Support millions of illegals and welfare queens?
Libraries.  Highways.  Education.  Disease control.  FDIC.  The GI Bill.  The National Park System.  And a wholllllle lot more.

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Re: The 250,000 dollar family
« Reply #57 on: October 28, 2008, 09:07:25 AM »
Hahaha. Sarcasm, my socialist friend, it's called sarcasm... 

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« Reply #58 on: October 28, 2008, 09:28:05 AM »
Hahaha. Sarcasm, my socialist friend, it's called sarcasm... 
Sometimes I'm dumb.

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Re: The 250,000 dollar family
« Reply #59 on: October 28, 2008, 09:45:21 AM »
I care about a lot of issues.  Taxes are the first thing on Obama's mind, because he keeps talking about them everyday.  Same with McCain. 

He keeps talking about them becasue Mccain keeps telling people Obama is going to raise everyones taxes... So he has no choice but to keep talking about them...

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Re: The 250,000 dollar family
« Reply #60 on: October 28, 2008, 09:48:51 AM »
correct me if im wrong.
but let's say under obamas plan tax rate is 25% for people making under 250k, and 35% for people making under 250k.

if you're making 249k you get taxed 25%
and if you're making over 250k, say 251k, you are not suddenly taxed 35% instead, but every dollar you make OVER 250k is taxed at 35%?
is this right?

Correct... So with your analogy if a individual made 400,000.   They would get taxed 25% from 1-250,000 then from 250,001 to 400k they would get taxed 35%....

In Obamas plan that person would actually get taxed 4500 more, but would get 7500 tax reduction for health care costs... So they would end up paying 3,000 less than Right now... 

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Re: The 250,000 dollar family
« Reply #61 on: October 28, 2008, 09:50:22 AM »
Sometimes I'm dumb.

No, I wouldn't say you are dumb. You appear to be one of the more intelligent ones on here, which is why your political tendencies perplex me...


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Re: The 250,000 dollar family
« Reply #62 on: October 28, 2008, 09:54:48 AM »
Correct... So with your analogy if a individual made 400,000.   They would get taxed 25% from 1-250,000 then from 250,001 to 400k they would get taxed 35%....

In Obamas plan that person would actually get taxed 4500 more, but would get 7500 tax reduction for health care costs... So they would end up paying 3,000 less than Right now... 

Horseshit.

I don't get taxed on the lower rate to a point, then the next rate to the next benchmark, and so on. If you make 99K, you get taxed on 99K. If you make 100K, you get taxed on the WHOLE 100K at the higher rate.

I got a raise at a job a couple years ago, and when all was figured out, I was making LESS than before, due to being in a higher tax bracket. I actually asked to make $1 less to be in the lower tax bracket...

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Re: The 250,000 dollar family
« Reply #63 on: October 28, 2008, 09:55:43 AM »
But you must factor all the other taxes outside of income tax that will be raised under Obama and a democratic house and senate.  People keep overlooking these...

Capital gains, Payroll tax, corporate tax, taxes on our 401Ks and benefits, taxes on seniors making over $50,000, marriage tax, death/inheritance tax for certain...those are just the ones I know of.

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Re: The 250,000 dollar family
« Reply #64 on: October 28, 2008, 09:57:48 AM »
Hereford, its supposed to be a graduated system on certain ranges of income, your money is supposed to be taxed at different rates based on the range that portion of the $ falls in (the more $, the higher the tax rate).

The problem is thats just for federal income tax.  We pay state, local, rita, and other taxes on top federal taxes.  Its not uncommon for professionals to be taxed 35-40% of their total wages, which is bullshit!

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Re: The 250,000 dollar family
« Reply #65 on: October 28, 2008, 11:33:38 AM »
He keeps talking about them becasue Mccain keeps telling people Obama is going to raise everyones taxes... So he has no choice but to keep talking about them...

He keeps talking about them because they are a central part of his campaign.  He knows that one of the primary advantages conservatives have over liberals is tax philosophy, and if he can be the one championing tax cuts, McCain is in serious trouble.  Seems to be working. 

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Re: The 250,000 dollar family
« Reply #66 on: October 28, 2008, 12:29:01 PM »
No, I wouldn't say you are dumb. You appear to be one of the more intelligent ones on here, which is why your political tendencies perplex me...


No, sometimes I'm on cloud 9 mentally.

In my opinion, all politics is based on values.  I value things a little bit differently than my philosophic counterparts.  I work in a field that should predispose me towards hatred of my government.  I work with IRS/DOL regs quite a bit.  But I don't.  I know the good things that some gov. programs can do from firsthand experience.  I have no problem with a hand up b/c I know people make mistakes repeatedly.