WHAT EXACTLY IS NEURO-LINGUISTIC PROGRAMMING? DOES IT WORK?

[andreisdaman]

ANYONE HAVE AN IDEA OR THEORY ABOUT THIS?..ANYONE EVER USE IT OR BEEN TRAINED IN IT?  DOES IT WORK?

[emn1964]

ANYONE HAVE AN IDEA OR THEORY ABOUT THIS?..ANYONE EVER USE IT OR BEEN TRAINED IN IT?  DOES IT WORK?

why don't you get off your lazy ass and google it?

[andreisdaman]

why don't you get off your lazy ass and google it?

Congratualations, dickhead, you won the award usually reserved for the the first poster who makes an ass of himself...

Now that you have claimed your award, do you have ANYTHING intelligent to say or to add?

If the post doesn't interest you, then why not move on to something else without comment?...there are over 600 pages of posts here in the opinion site...

hope this helps.

[Exal]

NLP is very real and works like a charm, but please don't abuse it just to get women

[Tapeworm]

Why don't you tell us what you think it is and then we'll tell you if you're on the right track.






PS - The logical positivists were girly men.

[wavelength]

Why don't you tell us what you think it is and then we'll tell you if you're on the right track.






PS - The logical positivists were girly men.

nice

[Max_Rep]

ANYONE HAVE AN IDEA OR THEORY ABOUT THIS?..ANYONE EVER USE IT OR BEEN TRAINED IN IT?  DOES IT WORK?

Yes it works. I was certified in it in 1987.

[Tapeworm]

nice

Well they were.  Wittgenstein was all about penoris.

[wavelength]

Is it the stuff the funny looking man with the throaty voice and the huge paws gets so excited about?

[wavelength]

Well they were.  Wittgenstein was all about penoris.

Don't think I ever read anything from him. I do recall reading some Popper.
Positivism in general is illogical IMO.

[Disgusted]

Go to youtube. Tons of info there.

[Tapeworm]

Don't think I ever read anything from him. I do recall reading some Popper.
Positivism in general is illogical IMO.

I never had anything more than a nodding acquaintanceship with that particular school of thought... which is to say I really don't know jack shit.    But the notion that language controls your view of the world doesn't do it for me.  So what if the eskimos have umpteen words for snow.  I can still differentiate between wet snow, snow that you can't make a good snowball with, snow with big snowflakes, yellow snow, etc. 

It seems to me you "think" before you "language" (even though they'd make fun of me for struggling to get my point across due to my linguistic limitations, aha! they'd say), and that the concept which will be put into words necessarily precedes those words, and is not therefore dependent upon the language which eventually frames it, so that language is the servant of cognition, not the other way around.

BTW, I have no idea if that has anything to do with NLP.

[wavelength]

I never had anything more than a nodding acquaintanceship with that particular school of thought... which is to say I really don't know jack shit.    But the notion that language controls your view of the world doesn't do it for me.  So what if the eskimos have umpteen words for snow.  I can still differentiate between wet snow, snow that you can't make a good snowball with, snow with big snowflakes, yellow snow, etc. 

It seems to me you "think" before you "language" (even though they'd make fun of me for struggling to get my point across due to my linguistic limitations, aha! they'd say), and that the concept which will be put into words necessarily precedes those words, and is not therefore dependent upon the language which eventually frames it.

BTW, I have no idea if that has anything to do with NLP.

Haha, at least you're honest!

Positivism is more like everything starts with sense, resp. there is nothing to be known apart from what can be experienced through your senses. It's the world view of most scientists in the form of the even more restrictive scientific positivism. AFAIK, NLP is based on the theory that the brain is nothing more than a computer (neuronal network) -  the scientific positivistic view - and therefore is resp. can be programmed like one. At least that's what the practitioners like e.g. Robbins think.

[Tapeworm]

Ahhh, I C.

Are you an a priori kinda dude then?  Triangle has 3 sides, etc?

There's also the consideration that cognitive processes like he faculty of reason may have sensual objects as their subject, but exist independently of those objects.  I read Schopenhauer's "The World as Will and Idea" years ago and he made a pretty good run at reconciling things.

[wavelength]

Ahhh, I C.

Are you an a priori kinda dude then?  Triangle has 3 sides, etc?

There's also the consideration that cognitive processes like he faculty of reason may have sensual objects as their subject, but exist independently of those objects.  I read Schopenhauer's "The World as Will and Idea" years ago and he made a pretty good run at reconciling things.

I would say I'm more of a bullshitter dude.

The problem with positivism is that their main rule, that there is nothing beyond what can be experienced through sense, is itself a statement which can never be experienced through sense. Thus, it is self-contradicting.

No doubt there are a-priori (or absoulte) truths, this can also be proven very easily in the same way.

[andreisdaman]

I've always thought that NLP has to do with controling others and getting others to unconsciously do what you want them to do by using some sort of mind-language-body language connection where you use your voice, combined with certain buzz words which promotes placing visions/memories into the minds of subjects...sort of like hypnotizing a woman (or others) into liking you or doing what you want them to do without their knowing.....and this kind of hypnosis is done without putting people into a trance in the traditional way....you actually place then in a trance-like state simply by using words and gestures....some say that some salespeople often use these techniques to get people to buy....supposedly there are classes you take in this...but the actual techniques of how to do this are closely guarded and hard to find by googling....

anyone hear about this and if anyone out there is trained in this can you share some tips and tell us how it's done?...or do you guys think this is all bullcrap??   

[24KT]

ANYONE HAVE AN IDEA OR THEORY ABOUT THIS?..ANYONE EVER USE IT OR BEEN TRAINED IN IT?  DOES IT WORK?

Yes it does work. And it can be abused and has been abused in the past.
If you have some understanding in it, you can guard against it being used against you.

[benz]

Yes it works. I was certified in it in 1987.

Not because you are certified means it works, right?

[andreisdaman]

Yes it works. I was certified in it in 1987.

okay so give us some tips on how to use it....how can we use it to pick up chicks?...

we had an incident in our family a few years ago...the wife of my wife's uncle was walking in the street and she claims that she was somehow put into a trance and forced to take a total stranger home with her where he proceeded to burglarize the apartment...when my wife's uncle came home, his wife was sitting there calmly and just staring into space...as if she were in a trance...weird.....and recently there was a news flash on TV here in NY about a woman who was working as a cashier in a store and supposedly a guy came into the store, went up to her at the register, and asked her to hand over all the money in the register which she did....he did not pull a gun or threaten her in any way....he just asked and she gave it to him....she said she didn't remember doing it.....the guy had supposedly placed her into a trance and simply asked for the money and left...supposedly this kind of thing is possible with NLP..if you know how to use it correctly...