Mid to late 30's and still "Chasing the dream"??

[vice1]

No problem, glad to share. I'm not a businessman... I'm an engineer. As a defense contractor, they're our main customer.

how much money do you make a year being a computer engineer bro?

[wavelength]

Big companies and organizations are often customers of small companies, that's no big deal. No reason for disbelief.

[Camel Jockey]

They don't have the capacity to save or plan, which is why they try to "live the dream" in their quest for teh elusive plastic trophy

Face the music; most that get into bodybuilding aren't the brightest, or most well learned people.

[Alex23]

how much money do you make a year being a computer engineer bro?

depends on your level and industry/sector but down here for commercial products a senior engineer with decent skill set it's somewhere between 100-150k + Bonuses and/or stock options...

[powerbar]

I think whatever your dream is you should try to do whatever you can to reach it.  If your dream is to have a lot of money then do whatever you can to get money.  If you are striving to get a pro card then something other than money probably motivates you.  

[Alex23]

They don't have the capacity to save or plan, which is why they try to "live the dream" in their quest for teh elusive plastic trophy

Face the music; most that get into bodybuilding aren't the brightest, or most well learned people.

QFT. And unlike NFL, NBA, there are only so many spots available, and even so doesn't guarantee you a contract with sustainable income...

[wavelength]

depends on your level and industry/sector but down here for commercial products a senior engineer with decent skill set it's somewhere between 100-150k + Bonuses and/or stock options...

But that's dependent on location, right?
Are you in the valley?

[Man of Steel]

they've got 2 Whoppers for 4 bucks at Burger King right now.

Post of the day!!

[Alex23]

But that's dependent on location, right?
Are you in the valley?

I spent 8 years there including grad school. Moved to San Diego last year. Salary scales are relatively the same... at least at my level.

[wavelength]

I spent 8 years there including grad school. Moved to San Diego last year. Salary scales are relatively the same... at least at my level.

I worked in the bay area for a little while before the dot com crash. Crazy salaries in those days.

[michael arvilla]

sounds like alex is mad at mike arvilla

                                 
                           

[Alex23]

I worked in the bay area for a little while before the dot com crash. Crazy salaries in those days.

Jan 2000... I was at Informatica and hiring kids out of college; would offer them 85-90k, pretty much market... and they would turn it down claiming they had a higher offer from pets.com or some other dot shit... I would simply smile, shake my head and walk away....

so many talents lost....  

[wavelength]

Jan 2000... I was at Informatica and hiring kids out of college; would offer them 85-90k, pretty much market... and they would turn it down claiming they had a higher offer from pets.com or some other dot shit... I would simply smile, shake my head and walk away....

so many talents losts....  

I think I can recall a bimbo or two making 100k and bitching about not enough stock options.
A year later, they could wipe their asses with their stocks.

[Alex23]

I think I can recall a bimbo or two making 100k and bitching about not enough stock options.
A year later, they could wipe their asses with their stocks.

if they even had a job... I remember losing a couple of guys to Ariba "disgruntled employees"... , shit stock, shit company; a year later (nov. 2001) massive layoffs hit them and they came back crawling.

Bittersweet.

[wavelength]

if they even had a job... I remember losing a couple of guys to Ariba "disgruntled employees"... , shit stock, shit company; a year later (nov. 2001) massive layoffs hit them and they came back crawling.

Bittersweet.

Was a great time for Europeans (I'm from Vienna) making a lot of money in a short period of time.

[freespirit]

Is there something, gimmick?

[PANDAEMONIUM]

there is no need to live the 'bodybuilding lifestyle'  . you go to the gym for 60min 4-5 days a week, and after that you go on with your life.

Exactly.  I always laugh at these people who are obsessed 24-7 with anything, really.  You spend any more than an hour in the gym,  you're either trying to squeeze too much into one workout, or you're piddling around too much talking to other people, resting between sets, or--in "kyomu's" case--spending too much time in the sauna giving rubdowns to muscle "daddies"

[Man of Steel]

they've got 2 Whoppers for 4 bucks at Burger King right now.

I sat down and did the math.  According to my calculations I could enjoy 4 Whoppers for 8 bucks!

[drkaje]

Lee Priest said something similar a few years back. Pretty much said he'd be an incredibly successful doctor if the same focus/attention were put towards something more useful than bodybuilding.

Older guys should work out and stay in shape but understand "the dream" is over. Even if they 'win' or place well, what do you really have to show for it?

Living a healthy lifestyle should be the goal.

[Alex23]

Lee Priest said something similar a few years back. Pretty much said he'd be an incredibly successful doctor if the same focus/attention were put towards something more useful than bodybuilding.

Older guys should work out and stay in shape but understand "the dream" is over. Even if they 'win' or place well, what do you really have to show for it?

Living a healthy lifestyle should be the goal.

Great post, you just brought closure to my point.

Thanks drjake.

[Van_Bilderass]

Does Alex23 really care about these wasted lives or is this yet another self-congratulatory thread for Alex23?

[Alex23]

Does Alex23 really care about these wasted lives or is this yet another self-congratulatory thread for Alex23?

Sounds like I've hit a nerve once again.

[drkaje]

Great post, you just brought closure to my point.

Thanks drjake.

What's your honest, unfiltered opinion on the wannabe and neverwas doing tons of cycles?

[Sarcastic Deity]

                                 
                           

i was being serious





















 

[Sarcastic Deity]

Is there something, gimmick?

how's the dope in amsterdam?