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« Reply #25 on: November 24, 2008, 07:00:55 PM »

you're the one making the hilarious claim that an 18 year old hitting 513 in an IPF approved shirt isn't impressive, fella.  Smiley

mighty strong words runt!!!!


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« Reply #26 on: November 24, 2008, 09:01:15 PM »

ahahaha, dude, his bench (like his squat, deadlift, and total) is a sub-junior world record. http://records.powerlifting.org/world/?lan=en&gender=M&age=sjun

125+kg    Carl Yngvar Cristensen   1990   NOR   146.75   233.5   16.11.2008   Sandnes NOR

apparently you're claiming that you were as strong as the strongest sub-junior in IPF history?? care to modify your statement?  Grin Grin Grin
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« Reply #27 on: November 24, 2008, 09:58:58 PM »

ahahaha, dude, his bench (like his squat, deadlift, and total) is a sub-junior world record. http://records.powerlifting.org/world/?lan=en&gender=M&age=sjun

125+kg    Carl Yngvar Cristensen   1990   NOR   146.75   233.5   16.11.2008   Sandnes NOR

apparently you're claiming that you were as strong as the strongest sub-junior in IPF history?? care to modify your statement?  Grin Grin Grin


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« Reply #28 on: November 24, 2008, 11:36:22 PM »

who did what in the who now?

you said this:

very strong, but 513 with a bench shirt... not very impressive but everything else very good.

that "513 in a bench shirt" is currently a world record in the IPF sub-junior 125+kg class. once again:

125+kg    Carl Yngvar Cristensen   1990   NOR   146.75   233.5   16.11.2008   Sandnes NOR

meaning, in the 125+kg class, Carl Yngvar Cristensen, who was born in 1990 in Norway, weighed 146.75kg/322lb and bench pressed 233.5kg/513lb on november 16th, 2008 during a meet in Sandnes, Norway. so... you basically said a world record lift was "not very impressive".  Wink

admittedly a lifter in the class below beat his bench, but cristensen's squat and deadlift were much higher as he still has the biggest total.
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« Reply #29 on: November 25, 2008, 01:56:12 AM »

Someone remembers what Coach claims he benchpressed @ 16 years of age and weighing 165?
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« Reply #30 on: November 25, 2008, 02:19:24 PM »

you said this:

that "513 in a bench shirt" is currently a world record in the IPF sub-junior 125+kg class. once again:

125+kg    Carl Yngvar Cristensen   1990   NOR   146.75   233.5   16.11.2008   Sandnes NOR

meaning, in the 125+kg class, Carl Yngvar Cristensen, who was born in 1990 in Norway, weighed 146.75kg/322lb and bench pressed 233.5kg/513lb on november 16th, 2008 during a meet in Sandnes, Norway. so... you basically said a world record lift was "not very impressive".  Wink

admittedly a lifter in the class below beat his bench, but cristensen's squat and deadlift were much higher as he still has the biggest total.



sorry buddy im just used to being around stronger  people than that, my buddy pulled 835 as a junior he was 19 yrs old now that is strong. Not saying the kid is not strong but just not impressed
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« Reply #31 on: November 25, 2008, 03:48:41 PM »



sorry buddy im just used to being around stronger  people than that, my buddy pulled 835 as a junior he was 19 yrs old now that is strong. Not saying the kid is not strong but just not impressed

Not trying to turn this into some kind of non tested vs tested fed argument, but were your buddy natural or juicing when pulling that weight?

If he was natural, he's probably the greatest deadlifting talent ever.
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« Reply #32 on: November 25, 2008, 04:01:19 PM »

I believe Joe claimed to bench 525 at 18 and 180 pounds.
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« Reply #33 on: November 25, 2008, 04:17:22 PM »

Not trying to turn this into some kind of non tested vs tested fed argument, but were your buddy natural or juicing when pulling that weight?

If he was natural, he's probably the greatest deadlifting talent ever.


kyle gulledge is his name and if you ask me he could of been  on of the best deadlifters of all time had he stuck with it. Natural or not i dont know either way it was awesome. you can youtube it i think that pull is still up
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« Reply #34 on: November 25, 2008, 04:21:10 PM »

I have followed this kid since he started training in August 2005.

Here is a couple of quotes from his first sessions in the gym:
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Situps: 40x2 + 10 kg

Skulderpress: 11x3  16 kg per hantel
Fronthev: 10x3 7.5 kg per hantel

Shrugs med stang: 20x3 57 kg

Biceps curl med stang: 10x3 32 kg
Biceps curl med stang ovendt grep: 10x3 21 kg

Underarms curl: 10x3 16 kg

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Situps: 40x2 + 10 kg

Oppvarming: starter alltid med litt lette vekter

Benkpress: 3x8  67 kg
Hantelpress: 3x8  26 kg per hantel

Franskpress: 3x10  31 kg
Stående enarms extensions: 3x8  7 kg
In this his second training, he benched 67 kilos for 8 reps.
3 years later he gets 7 world records in one meet. (2 squat, 1 bench, 3 deadlift and 1 total)

I can vouch for him beeing drug free and a true freak! He is 6'1 and 330 lbs. I have competed against him in strongman, in seasons 06 and 07. in 07 i barely beat him. (I started training when he was born)

This year he came 5th in Norways Strongest Man (held by Svend Karlsen), and then did this meet in IPF powerlifting.

More can be read in his traning log since day one: http://www.treningsforum.no/forum/index.php?topic=28947.0
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« Reply #35 on: November 25, 2008, 05:31:53 PM »



sorry buddy im just used to being around stronger  people than that, my buddy pulled 835 as a junior he was 19 yrs old now that is strong. Not saying the kid is not strong but just not impressed

...you're used to being around people stronger than the kid who holds EVERY SINGLE IPF SUB-JUNIOR SUPERHEAVY RECORD.

hedge, help me out here, you're a big supporter of the IPF side of things. apparently this guy is saying that the strongest IPF sub-junior superheavy is mediocre at best compared to other lifters. because lord knows siders wasn't kicking ass an taking names at NERB.

and kyle gulledge? no offense, but you're talking untested, a few years older, and a completely different pull. 835 is disgusting weight and kyle's a monster, but you can't compare a suited sumo pull to a conventional pull in the IPF where the suit might give you 30 pounds on a good day.
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« Reply #36 on: November 25, 2008, 05:59:37 PM »

...you're used to being around people stronger than the kid who holds EVERY SINGLE IPF SUB-JUNIOR SUPERHEAVY RECORD.

hedge, help me out here, you're a big supporter of the IPF side of things. apparently this guy is saying that the strongest IPF sub-junior superheavy is mediocre at best compared to other lifters. because lord knows siders wasn't kicking ass an taking names at NERB.

and kyle gulledge? no offense, but you're talking untested, a few years older, and a completely different pull. 835 is disgusting weight and kyle's a monster, but you can't compare a suited sumo pull to a conventional pull in the IPF where the suit might give you 30 pounds on a good day.

Actually, the suit isn't different between feds in the deadlift, at least it won't do any lifter much good to try using a canvas.
You need the stretch IMO.

The only difference may have been whether this Kyle was  on the juice or not.
Because everything else is, IMO, pretty much the same.
This Norwegian kid is a total freak, no way should we call him average or not impressive.
 But of course brent's friend is a beast as well.

 

   
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« Reply #37 on: November 25, 2008, 06:30:53 PM »

I believe Joe claimed to bench 525 at 18 and 180 pounds.

I think the best benchpresser in the world @198, Dennis Cieri, has an incredible RAW personal best at around 550?
Cieri is around 40 and has been training his whole life.
Bring in the 18 year old 180 lbs'er.Cool     
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« Reply #38 on: November 25, 2008, 06:31:38 PM »

I believe Joe claimed to bench 525 at 18 and 180 pounds.
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« Reply #39 on: November 25, 2008, 07:42:04 PM »

im not disputing wether the kid is a beast or not, all i said was his "bench" was not that impressive to me. I give all the credit were it is due and im a huge fan of powerlifting and i love the fact that we have all these juniors that are putting up huge weight, it should be fun to watch for years to come. That being said i just don't think its all that impressive especially at 330lbs but hey he is still a beast and probably will impress me in the not to distant future.
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« Reply #40 on: November 25, 2008, 11:19:17 PM »

Now I finally get what your point is (I'm being a little thick).
 I actually agree somewhat on the benchpress thing.

Considering what a freak the kid is - yes, the bench is lagging.

His bench 'should' be high 500's for him to be matching his squat number in the bench.

Right now his squat is better, and he looks like he will squat 800 any day from what I've seen in clips.
 
 
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« Reply #41 on: November 26, 2008, 12:32:28 PM »

i agree his bench isn't "as freakish" as his squat and pull (i call it the Ed Coan Effect), but brent here is saying he's not that impressive in general. i'm sorry that four world records set in a single meet doesn't impress you.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #42 on: November 27, 2008, 01:52:08 PM »

7 world records in one meet. (2 squat, 1 bench, 3 deadlift and 1 total)
His first deadlift was 20 kg's above the WR. His third was 47,5 kg's over the old WR.
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« Reply #43 on: November 27, 2008, 02:53:47 PM »

His first deadlift was 20 kg's above the WR. His third was 47,5 kg's over the old WR.

well, granted, but i mean in the end there's only four actually on the books, one for each of the lifts and the total. when you break a record twice in a meet i only count it once, y'know?
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« Reply #44 on: November 28, 2008, 05:46:35 AM »

Ofcourse, but he both broke the past record and moved his own several times. Smiley
4 new records to the lists, but he set seven during the meet. Smiley
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« Reply #45 on: November 29, 2008, 01:09:08 AM »

That is some great powerlifting. He has a great future. If he remains uninjured, he could go on to much bigger lifts
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« Reply #46 on: November 30, 2008, 12:25:36 PM »

i agree his bench isn't "as freakish" as his squat and pull (i call it the Ed Coan Effect), but brent here is saying he's not that impressive in general. i'm sorry that four world records set in a single meet doesn't impress you.  Roll Eyes


jesus their are some thick skulled people on here all i said was his bench was not that impressive, learn to read
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« Reply #47 on: November 30, 2008, 05:57:44 PM »


jesus their are some thick skulled people on here all i said was his bench was not that impressive, learn to read

Nah, dude its how you wrote your reply.  I read it and thought you were some typical GetBig knowitall shitwiper and figured it wasn't worth even thinking about posting anything because you were going to make up shit no matter what.   

The bottom line for anyone whos into powerlifting is the guy is a multiple world record holder.   I don't give a crap what someone does in the gym, its whats done on the platform that matters. 
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« Reply #48 on: November 30, 2008, 06:37:31 PM »

Nah, dude its how you wrote your reply.  I read it and thought you were some typical GetBig knowitall shitwiper and figured it wasn't worth even thinking about posting anything because you were going to make up shit no matter what.   

The bottom line for anyone whos into powerlifting is the guy is a multiple world record holder.   I don't give a crap what someone does in the gym, its whats done on the platform that matters. 


ok... thread closed
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« Reply #49 on: December 01, 2008, 02:39:25 PM »

closed?
naah... Smiley
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