Are you admitting to the slavery? Isn't it "indentured servitude"?
..."go into your wife's handmaid" anyone?
God doesn't need to ask the handmaid's permission?
Ummmm.......you are referring to scenario with Abraham and Sarah, one to produce an heir for Abe, since they were TOO IMPATIENT to wait on God to deliver His promise. To top it all off, this was actually SARAH'S idea; and we have no indication that Hagar objected to her mistress' plan. To the contrary, Hagar was actually gloating that she could have children and Sarah could not, hence starting the beef between the two.
Would you like some Grey Poupon with those toes of yours?
You guys are so blinkered... Lott offers his wife and daughters up that they might be "used" rather than having the people of Sodom and Gomorrah rape the Angels visiting his household. Don't the wife and daughters get a vote? Can't the Angel of Death fend for himself?
One, he didn't offer his wife.
Two, Lot's act was one of cowardice.
And, three, (the part you missed most of all, in your haste to run your mouth), the angles who visit Lot end up BLINDING the would-be rapists and scattering them, leaving Lot and family unharmed.
The Bible is a product of its time... women have no say... women are property... and women slaves are sexual playthings... there are so many examples of this kind of thing in the Bible (many have been raised here) that you guys would be copy-and-pasting flimsy apologist articles and searching for nicer alternate translations till Judgment Day.
What we have is many examples of your having little clue about what you speak. Again, you forget that the men who raped and killed that concubine were sought out to face the DEATH penalty for their crimes. Women weren't property or sexual playthings; in fact, they were allowed to actually own property (i.e. Naomi, who inherited her husband's estate after her husband and sons died).
The real questions are:
-Why isn't there a prohibition against slavery in the ten commandments? Even Jesus didn't speak out against slavery.
-Why isn't there a commandment prohibiting torture?
-Why isn't there a commandment prohibiting rape?
...don't slavery; torture and rape rank above swearing? ("Lord's name in vain")
Why is a Bigfoot-hunting loser living in Ireland a better more moral authority than your all powerful storm god? Why do you guys feel the need to circle jerk when you don't address the issues you can't defend?
The Luke
Now this is TOO FUNNY, coming from someone who's been ducking questions asked of him on another thread for over TWO WEEKS!!!
What part of rape being a capital offense don't you understand? Of course, that would be covered under the adultery commandment. Not to mention the minor fact that Israel was CONSTANTLY instructed to treat foreigners and servants kindly, as they were constanly reminded of the harsh treatment they received in Egypt. The laws of the Torah are based on the Commandments, boy genius.
But, since you’re so quick to yap about the commandments, perhaps you cite #5, you know, the one that says, “Honor your father
AND YOUR MOTHER”. Add to that the fact that women, along with their husbands, could defend their daughters' honor, when their names were being slandered by fickle men. So much for "women have no say".
And, what you can't seem to process inside that head of yours is that the "slavery" of OT times was basically of a VOLUNTARY nature, often to keep people from being impoverished or starving to death. It was NOT chattel slavery, in which people (based on race/ethnicity) were kidnapped from a foreign land (another capital offense) and subjected to lifetime enslavement against their will, with no rights or privileges, whatsoever.
Come back when you actually get a clue!!!
