$14B auto bailout dies in Senate

[pumphard]

You could also say that McCain supporters are racists war mongers...for the people by the people.

Ron Paul will be right about this one too...this is just prolonging the inevitable.

You're really reaching with that one, get back to me when you make some sense...........

[MuscleMcMannus]

Bailing out these companies is delaying the inevitable unless they restructure and figure out a way to sell many more cars at a profit.

Give me a goddamn break.  And where the fuck is the restructuring at AIG, CITIBANK, and the other WallStreet banks and financial houses?  HUH?  Aren't we delaying the inevitable bailing their asses out?  I mean shit.............not only did the banks and financial companies fuck over Americans with bad debt they managed to sell it the world over. 

[w8tlftr]

Good!

[MRDUMPLING]

You're really reaching with that one, get back to me when you make some sense...........

As in would it have been any better if McCain would have been elected vs. the "socialist" government we have now? 

Like I have said before...I am more open to a bailout for these manufacturing companies, I just don't agree what is being done about it.  Don't even get me started on these con men known as bank CEOs. 

[pumphard]

When someone starts with McCain voters are racists and war mongers, its hard to take them serious

[Soul Crusher]

Give me a goddamn break.  And where the fuck is the restructuring at AIG, CITIBANK, and the other WallStreet banks and financial houses?  HUH?  Aren't we delaying the inevitable bailing their asses out?  I mean shit.............not only did the banks and financial companies fuck over Americans with bad debt they managed to sell it the world over. 

Yes we are delaying the inevitable.  I was against the original bailout as well. 

I think people from Wall Street need to be shot for what they did, not bailed out, but also feel the same about the auto copmpanies.

If a company cant produce a product or service at a profit, it should declare bankrupcy or figure out a way to become profitable, not bailed out.

[MRDUMPLING]

When someone starts with McCain voters are racists and war mongers, its hard to take them serious

It was a tongue in cheek statement.  It was not serious in anyway.  I should have clarified...I apologize.

[shootfighter1]

How is Bush not a quasi-socialist? 

I think all these bailouts are generally a bad idea, particularly the financial bailout (without a detailed restructuring plan before the loans/money was given).  Sounded like the UAW president and the republican leader from Tenn made some reasonable compromises though...but then it tanked when the UAW president couldn't give a date when employee wages would be more on par with wages from Toyota, Nissan, BMW, etc.
Everyone has to take a cut IMO.  Retirees, executives, the UAW and workers.

[pumphard]

How is Bush not a quasi-socialist? 

I think all these bailouts are generally a bad idea, particularly the financial bailout (without a detailed restructuring plan before the loans/money was given).  Sounded like the UAW president and the republican leader from Tenn made some reasonable compromises though...but then it tanked when the UAW president couldn't give a date when employee wages would be more on par with wages from Toyota, Nissan, BMW, etc.
Everyone has to take a cut IMO.  Retirees, executives, the UAW and workers.

\they had no choice, they had too........its kinda like the scenario where your neighbours house is on fire, you help to put it out cause you don't want your house to catch on fire

[Hedgehog]

Bailing out these companies is delaying the inevitable unless they restructure and figure out a way to sell many more cars at a profit.

I totally agree with you.

If there's a bailout, the tax payers money needs to be given out as conditional loans with thorough control.

Conditional loans where a certain amount has to be used for development of alternative cars to free USA of the oil dependancy.

Because lets face it - right now there are enough of gasoline driven cars in USA.

The car buying frenzy of the last 8 years have largely been fueled by generous - that's right - mortgage deals.

Those have got to go.

So people are more likely to buy used cars, ie trade cars from the existing car park.

Car companies needs to offer something different if they are to survive.

And that sure ain't cars running on gasoline.

[Hereford]

Thats cause the Democrates were trying to repay a favour to the Auto Union with the bailout................. .....

Truth.

Most of what the Dems in regards to auto industry bailouts is payment to the organized crime union organizations.