Author Topic: Am i naive in thinking THIS can be achieved DRUG FREE (Read 72737 times)

hipolito mejia · « **Reply #25 on:** December 13, 2008, 10:52:34 AM »

Quote from: The Showstoppa on December 13, 2008, 10:48:00 AM

Really? I think his quads are terrible.

Hi Tom Platz.

MAXX · « **Reply #26 on:** December 13, 2008, 10:53:37 AM »

Quote from: The ChemistV2 on December 13, 2008, 10:49:45 AM

The guy in that pic may not be natural, but that look can be achieved drug free. I've seen it on others and myself. For the average gym guy that doesn't have the ability to train hard (and smart) or the discipline and knowledge to follow the right nutritional protocols, no..he probably won't look as good as that guy.

Layne Norton is one of the better and most serious naturals and doesn't have that good legs and chest. That should tell you something...

hipolito mejia · « **Reply #27 on:** December 13, 2008, 10:53:45 AM »

Quote from: The ChemistV2 on December 13, 2008, 10:49:45 AM

The guy in that pic may not be natural, but that look can be achieved drug free. I've seen it on others and myself. For the average gym guy that doesn't have the ability to train hard (and smart) or the discipline and knowledge to follow the right nutritional protocols, no..he probably won't look as good as that guy.

Bullshit.

timfogarty · « **Reply #28 on:** December 13, 2008, 10:54:50 AM »

Quote from: The Coach on December 13, 2008, 10:16:40 AM

Yes it can.

yes it can, if you're still in your adolescences. if you're not very muscular and already past 25, you'll need assistance.

The ChemistV2 · « **Reply #29 on:** December 13, 2008, 10:55:48 AM »

Quote from: hipolito mejia on December 13, 2008, 10:53:45 AM

Bullshit.

What part is bullshit?

Canadian_Muscle · « **Reply #30 on:** December 13, 2008, 10:58:07 AM »

If you think that's the absolute natural limit, then you should just quit.

Mrdibbs · « **Reply #31 on:** December 13, 2008, 10:58:19 AM »

Quote from: hipolito mejia on December 13, 2008, 10:52:34 AM

Hi Tom Platz.

Epic being impressed by soft 22 inchers

MAXX · « **Reply #32 on:** December 13, 2008, 10:59:29 AM »

Quote from: Canadian_Muscle on December 13, 2008, 10:58:07 AM

If you think that's the absolute natural limit, then you should just quit.

what do you look like

Canadian_Muscle · « **Reply #33 on:** December 13, 2008, 11:03:54 AM »

Quote from: MAXX on December 13, 2008, 10:59:29 AM

what do you look like

Why would that matter? I didn't say I looked better, but I don't think this is at all unattainable naturally. Especially if if the guy is 25 and started training at 15 or something.

MAXX · « **Reply #34 on:** December 13, 2008, 11:09:35 AM »

Quote from: Canadian_Muscle on December 13, 2008, 11:03:54 AM

Why would that matter? I didn't say I looked better, but I don't think this is at all unattainable naturally. Especially if if the guy is 25 and started training at 15 or something.

if you dont look that good then what the hell do you know about it

kyomu · « **Reply #35 on:** December 13, 2008, 11:09:54 AM »

YES. Absolutely attainable.
What a bunch of losers here...

no one · « **Reply #36 on:** December 13, 2008, 11:12:15 AM »

AHAHAHAHAHAHA....

i LOVE how all the 170 pound keyboard warriors in this thread are saying you can't have this kind of development naturally.

epic insecurity.

for all you know he is 5'6- 5'9 and 180 pounds, and that is very achievable.

just because the majority of you look like shit, don't think everyone who doesn't has to take steroids to have a decent physique.

reality's a bitch.

Canadian_Muscle · « **Reply #37 on:** December 13, 2008, 11:14:07 AM »

Quote from: MAXX on December 13, 2008, 11:09:35 AM

if you dont look that good then what the hell do you know about it

Because i've seen plenty of naturals that have achieved a look similar to that without drugs.

I'm 5'6 and can't dunk a basketball, but that doesn't mean other guys my height can't.

MAXX · « **Reply #38 on:** December 13, 2008, 11:14:54 AM »

Quote from: no one on December 13, 2008, 11:12:15 AM

AHAHAHAHAHAHA....

i LOVE how all the 170 pound keyboard warriors in this thread are saying you can't have this kind of development naturally.

epic insecurity.

for all you know he is 5'6- 5'9 and 180 pounds, and that is very achievable.

just because the majority of you look like shit, don't think everyone who doesn't has to take steroids to have a decent physique.

reality's a bitch.

you are the keyboard warrior. you have never posted a pic as far as i know. and im 100% certain you dont look better than the guy in the pic posted

(neither does kyomu but he seems to think so)

no one · « **Reply #39 on:** December 13, 2008, 11:22:39 AM »

Quote from: MAXX on December 13, 2008, 11:14:54 AM

you are the keyboard warrior. you have never posted a pic as far as i know. and im 100% certain you dont look better than the guy in the pic posted

(neither does kyoumo but he seems to think so)

listen bonerack-

unlike you who struggles to lift a fork to his mouth due to his limpish wrists, the guy pictured has great genetics, trains hard and probably know a great deal about nutrition. don't cry like a bitch because he's that much better than you.

keep walking around the gym with your buddies in your little groups of 3-4 in your board shorts and wife beaters with your hats on crooked displaying your MASSIVE 160 physiques while you stare at guys like this desperately wishing you could look like that one day, when the reality of if is you'll always be the 150 twig who's girlfriend checks out guys like that and secretly wishes she wasn't with a toothpick like you.

don't worry, 'MAXX'- your girl would fuck him in a heart beat if she had the chance, and thats where your insecurity stems from.

sorry about your luck.

hipolito mejia · « **Reply #40 on:** December 13, 2008, 11:23:09 AM »

Quote from: Mrdibbs on December 13, 2008, 10:58:19 AM

Epic being impressed by soft 22 inchers

Not impressed really, Maradona had similar or bigger quads around 82 (and he wasnt in to bb)....

just read my first post in this tread and chances are u might get the idea.

hipolito mejia · « **Reply #41 on:** December 13, 2008, 11:24:09 AM »

Quote from: no one on December 13, 2008, 11:12:15 AM

AHAHAHAHAHAHA....

i LOVE how all the 170 pound keyboard warriors in this thread are saying you can't have this kind of development naturally.

epic insecurity.

for all you know he is 5'6- 5'9 and 180 pounds, and that is very achievable.

just because the majority of you look like shit, don't think everyone who doesn't has to take steroids to have a decent physique.

reality's a bitch.

How old are you ?

hipolito mejia · « **Reply #42 on:** December 13, 2008, 11:26:34 AM »

Quote from: Canadian_Muscle on December 13, 2008, 10:58:07 AM

If you think that's the absolute natural limit, then you should just quit.

Its not about limit its about convination.

kyomu · « **Reply #43 on:** December 13, 2008, 11:27:39 AM »

Quote from: MAXX on December 13, 2008, 11:14:54 AM

you are the keyboard warrior. you have never posted a pic as far as i know. and im 100% certain you dont look better than the guy in the pic posted

(neither does kyomu but he seems to think so)

Oh really I have already beat this pic guy in 1995

no one · « **Reply #44 on:** December 13, 2008, 11:27:53 AM »

Quote from: hipolito mejia on December 13, 2008, 11:24:09 AM

How old are you ?

what's wrong sweetheart?

you don't quite stack up either and are hurt inside by the reality you never will?

i understand.

by the way 'you don't get teardrops or abs like that without steroids' is amongst the dumbest things i have ever read on a bodybuilding forum- and thats saying something.

nice work.

JasonH · « **Reply #45 on:** December 13, 2008, 11:28:33 AM »

I think he's natural and yes it is attainable.

bodybuilder1234 · « **Reply #46 on:** December 13, 2008, 11:31:28 AM »

Is he natural? I dont know

But that physique can be attained naturally, just look at Jrod and Layne Norton. And they aint even the best naturals out there

Ursus · « **Reply #47 on:** December 13, 2008, 11:32:47 AM »

NO.

you will need greater than average genetics and dedication with a good metabolism

JasonH · « **Reply #48 on:** December 13, 2008, 11:33:44 AM »

I reckon it's natural on the basis that taking roids improves the shoulder width to a considerable size - it's one of the first things you notice on a gear user - this guy's shoulder width isn't that great. Good pecs, abs and quads though.

hipolito mejia · « **Reply #49 on:** December 13, 2008, 11:35:34 AM »

Quote from: kyomu on December 13, 2008, 11:27:39 AM

Oh really I have already beat this pic guy in 1995

No you didnt ..I dont mean to put u down you look great... but your flexing he's just walking at the beach still he has the tear drop muscle in quads bigger and larger than yours plus his skin looks thinner than yours, he has small forearms but the thick vain that makes a shadow gives away the sauce presence in his physique.