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Re: The greatest Olympia showing ever: Dorian Yates at the 1995 Mr. Olympia
« Reply #125 on: December 24, 2008, 03:11:30 PM »
Ronnie getting a massive owning by the Awesome One!  It's not even close.

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Re: The greatest Olympia showing ever: Dorian Yates at the 1995 Mr. Olympia
« Reply #126 on: December 24, 2008, 03:11:39 PM »
So, asking someone who has absolutely no knowledge of the sport, or clue of how to adjudicate a physique is an accurate way to decide who is better?    ::)  That's some logic.

Typical Coleman fans like what he likes and doesn't care for the facts

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Re: The greatest Olympia showing ever: Dorian Yates at the 1995 Mr. Olympia
« Reply #127 on: December 24, 2008, 03:17:22 PM »
Ronnie getting a massive owning by the Awesome One!  It's not even close.

Ronnie's back that year was supposed to be the widest ever but look at the difference in lat width , Ronnie's look smaller than Haney's just look at how much of the lats can be seen and look at how his lats insert into his torso there is a natural transition and Ronnie's looks like they've been stopped no flow and look at the difference in pecs

haney by a long shot

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Re: The greatest Olympia showing ever: Dorian Yates at the 1995 Mr. Olympia
« Reply #128 on: December 24, 2008, 03:22:01 PM »
Ronnie's back that year was supposed to be the widest ever but look at the difference in lat width , Ronnie's look smaller than Haney's just look at how much of the lats can be seen and look at how his lats insert into his torso there is a natural transition and Ronnie's looks like they've been stopped no flow and look at the difference in pecs

Haney by a long shot

Exactly!  It seems in vogue today to associate improvement with higher body weights.  Whatever happened to quality?  Sure, Ronnie was huge in 2003.  Big deal.  A much lighter Haney is taking him to school. 

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Re: The greatest Olympia showing ever: Dorian Yates at the 1995 Mr. Olympia
« Reply #129 on: December 24, 2008, 03:26:53 PM »
Exactly!  It seems in vogue today to associate improvement with higher body weights.  Whatever happened to quality?  Sure, Ronnie was huge in 2003.  Big deal.  A much lighter Haney is taking him to school.

I always laugh when people say 2003 was his best , it just screams ignorance ...he was impressive as fuck but his best not by a long shot , conditioning sucked , balance & `proportion sucked , gut was atrocious

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Re: The greatest Olympia showing ever: Dorian Yates at the 1995 Mr. Olympia
« Reply #130 on: December 24, 2008, 03:30:53 PM »
I always laugh when people say 2003 was his best , it just screams ignorance ...he was impressive as fuck but his best not by a long shot , conditioning sucked , balance & `proportion sucked , gut was atrocious

That shot of Ronnie is illustrative of one of the most unbalanced physiques of all time.  It's ironic that the Coleman trolls fixate on a torn bicep, when their hero is so astonishingly unbalanced.  Haney so outclasses Ronnie, it's not even funny.  If 1995 Yates had lined up against 2003 Ronnie, the bloated Texan would have been left for dead.

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Re: The greatest Olympia showing ever: Dorian Yates at the 1995 Mr. Olympia
« Reply #131 on: December 24, 2008, 03:35:40 PM »
That shot of Ronnie is illustrative of one of the most unbalanced physiques of all time.  It's ironic that the Coleman trolls fixate on a torn bicep, when their hero is so astonishingly unbalanced.  Haney so outclasses Ronnie, it's not even funny.  If 1995 Yates had lined up against 2003 Ronnie, the bloated Texan would have been left for dead.

I agree these guys harp on the bicep and Ronnie has a host of proportion issues starting right at the bottom calves way you small and not even fully developed for his quads , glutes that can be seen in from poses , how is this proportionate? along legs short torso , forearms shaped like bowling pins and not in proportion with his biceps/triceps , especially in 2003 hams not in proportion with his quads this is evident in profile the whole side of the leg looks like a 90/10 split between the hams and quads that's not proportion , but they're willing to overlook at his because he's so massive lol idiots don't have a clue on how contests are judged

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Re: The greatest Olympia showing ever: Dorian Yates at the 1995 Mr. Olympia
« Reply #132 on: December 24, 2008, 03:39:08 PM »
I agree these guys harp on the bicep and Ronnie has a host of proportion issues starting right at the bottom calves way you small and not even fully developed for his quads , glutes that can be seen in from poses , how is this proportionate? along legs short torso , forearms shaped like bowling pins and not in proportion with his biceps/triceps , especially in 2003 hams not in proportion with his quads this is evident in profile the whole side of the leg looks like a 90/10 split between the hams and quads that's not proportion , but they're willing to overlook at his because he's so massive lol idiots don't have a clue on how contests are judged

When the trolls see the shot of Haney destroying Ronnie, it'll be meltdown city.  ;D

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Re: The greatest Olympia showing ever: Dorian Yates at the 1995 Mr. Olympia
« Reply #133 on: December 24, 2008, 03:41:02 PM »
When the trolls see the shot of Haney destroying Ronnie, it'll be meltdown city.  ;D

they need to see what aesthetics and mass combined look like and it ain't Coleman

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Re: The greatest Olympia showing ever: Dorian Yates at the 1995 Mr. Olympia
« Reply #134 on: December 24, 2008, 03:41:31 PM »
Ronnie's back that year was supposed to be the widest ever but look at the difference in lat width , Ronnie's look smaller than Haney's just look at how much of the lats can be seen and look at how his lats insert into his torso there is a natural transition and Ronnie's looks like they've been stopped no flow and look at the difference in pecs

haney by a long shot

  The hugeness of Coleman's back in 2003 is a myth. Sure, it was enormous, but it had no more size than Dorian's at 270 lbs or so or that of Jean-Pierre Fux. I have a picture from the 2004 Olympia when Ronnie's back was even wider of Ronnie and Jay doing the rear lat spread and Jay is more than holding his own against Coleman even though he was 272 lbs vs Ronnie's 296 lbs. Here is Peter McGough's statement regarding the rear lat spreads of Ronnie and Jay in that contest:

 ""What's it gona be, Big Man?", Triple H inquires. "Rear-lat lghts-out-game-over spread", the reigning champ asserts.  Many in attendance immediately realized the tactical error Coloeman had made. Could he win the pose? He could. Was it a garanteed "game over"? Not by a long shot."

  If Cutler can give Coleman at his biggest ever a run for his money in terms of lat width, then Dorian at 260lbs could certainly match Ronnie 2003 in this criteria as well. Frankly, Dorian and Jay are roughly the same in terms of lat width, so you need to be deluded to believe that Ronnie 2003 would make Dorian look small in the lat department. Dorian's lats would give Ronnie's a run for their money in terms of width just like Jay's, but with the added bonus of having vastly superior definition and hardness. Ronnie's back looks wider than it truly is because his waist is smaller and also because his lats attach higher. The higher attachment gives the lats more sweep, which, oddly enough, adds to the illusion of size to the lats. Remember that Coleman's massive size increase from 2002 to 2003 was mostly quads and gut.

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Re: The greatest Olympia showing ever: Dorian Yates at the 1995 Mr. Olympia
« Reply #135 on: December 24, 2008, 03:45:24 PM »
 The hugeness of Coleman's back in 2003 is a myth. Sure, it was enormous, but it had no more size than Dorian's at 270 lbs or so or that of Jean-Pierre Fux. I have a picture from the 2004 Olympia when Ronnie's back was even wider of Ronnie and Jay doing the rear lat spread and Jayis more than holihis own against Coleman even though he was 272 lbs vs Ronnie's 296 lbs. Here is Peter McGough's statement regarding the rear lat spreads of Ronnie and Jay in that contest:

 ""What's it gona be, Big Man?", Triple H inquires. "Rear-lat lghts-out-game-over spread", the reigning champ asserts.  Many in attendance immediately realized the tactical error Coloeman had made. Could he win the pose? He could. Was it a garanteed "game over"? Not by a long shot."

  If Cutler can give Coleman at his biggest ever a run for his money in terms of lat width, then Dorian at 260lbs could certainly match Ronnie 2003 in this criteria as well. Frankly, Dorian and Jay are roughly the same in terms of lat width, so you need to be deluded to believe that Ronnie 2003 would make Dorian look small in the lat department. Dorian's lats would give Ronnie's a run for their money in terms of width just like Jay's, but with the added bonus of having vastly superior definition and hardness. Ronnie's back looks wider than it truly is because his waist is smaller and also because his lats attach higher. The higher attachment gives the lats more sweep, which, oddly enough, adds to the illusion of size to the lats. Remember that Coleman's massive size increase from 2002 to 2003 was mostly quads and gut.

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2003 no excuses now , I'll bet Yates 1997 had a back at least as wide if not wider

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Re: The greatest Olympia showing ever: Dorian Yates at the 1995 Mr. Olympia
« Reply #136 on: December 24, 2008, 03:46:31 PM »
This is a great shot (1996?).  Look how balanced Dorian is from head to toe! 


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Re: The greatest Olympia showing ever: Dorian Yates at the 1995 Mr. Olympia
« Reply #137 on: December 24, 2008, 07:34:33 PM »
This is a great shot (1996?).  Look how balanced Dorian is from head to toe! 



yup 1996

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Re: The greatest Olympia showing ever: Dorian Yates at the 1995 Mr. Olympia
« Reply #138 on: December 24, 2008, 08:43:10 PM »
LOL ND and his own gimmick account are verbally blowing each other... :-X
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Re: The greatest Olympia showing ever: Dorian Yates at the 1995 Mr. Olympia
« Reply #139 on: December 24, 2008, 08:44:14 PM »
Holy f*ck! No living human has ever been this dehydrated before!

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Re: The greatest Olympia showing ever: Dorian Yates at the 1995 Mr. Olympia
« Reply #140 on: December 24, 2008, 08:44:24 PM »
dorian getting owned from the back by nasser

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Re: The greatest Olympia showing ever: Dorian Yates at the 1995 Mr. Olympia
« Reply #141 on: December 24, 2008, 08:57:28 PM »
When the trolls see the shot of Haney destroying Ronnie, it'll be meltdown city.  ;D

Haney destroying Ronnie?

where?

 ::)
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Re: The greatest Olympia showing ever: Dorian Yates at the 1995 Mr. Olympia
« Reply #142 on: December 25, 2008, 05:46:31 AM »
LOL ND and his own gimmick account are verbally blowing each other... :-X

ha ha ha gimmick , sorry dummy this is my only account ...you wanna put your money where your mouth is?  ;)

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Re: The greatest Olympia showing ever: Dorian Yates at the 1995 Mr. Olympia
« Reply #143 on: December 25, 2008, 06:33:18 AM »
Haney destroying Ronnie?

where?

 ::)

Right here!   ;D  I know full well you'll avoid commenting on these shots again, as there is no way to refute that Haney is making Ronnie look like the unbalanced mess that he is.  Go ahead and post other shots as a misdirect, as you always do.  You can't handle the truth.  Keep running away, chicken.   ;D

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Re: The greatest Olympia showing ever: Dorian Yates at the 1995 Mr. Olympia
« Reply #144 on: December 25, 2008, 09:03:58 AM »
where?

ronnie is like Lee Haney on steroids 8)
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Re: The greatest Olympia showing ever: Dorian Yates at the 1995 Mr. Olympia
« Reply #145 on: December 25, 2008, 11:19:17 AM »
where?

ronnie is like Lee Haney on steroids 8)

Ummm in the pic Mr1derful posted Haney IS destroying Ronnie.  You just ignore that and post different shots.  Yes thats just one shot but the fact is Haney looks better.

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Re: The greatest Olympia showing ever: Dorian Yates at the 1995 Mr. Olympia
« Reply #146 on: December 25, 2008, 11:20:35 AM »
Ummm in the pic Mr1derful posted Haney IS destroying Ronnie.  You just ignore that and post different shots.  Yes thats just one shot but the fact is Haney looks better.
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absolutely in other shots NO in that particular shot Haney all the way

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« Reply #147 on: December 25, 2008, 12:54:47 PM »
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absolutely in other shots NO in that particular shot Haney all the way

I actually prefer Haney in the front double.  Ronnies quads kill his but Haney's waist and midsection is SO much better.  I think Ronnies Midsection really throws his physique off.  It's too round or something and his funky abs are ugly.

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Re: The greatest Olympia showing ever: Dorian Yates at the 1995 Mr. Olympia
« Reply #148 on: December 25, 2008, 01:00:51 PM »
dorian getting owned from the back by nasser

Look no arms in the back double-bi.

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Re: The greatest Olympia showing ever: Dorian Yates at the 1995 Mr. Olympia
« Reply #149 on: December 25, 2008, 01:02:04 PM »
Ummm in the pic Mr1derful posted Haney IS destroying Ronnie. 

Funny because in reality he's not destroying Coleman at all-an empty statement that's not verified by the evidence provided. ND and gimmicks firing blanks again. ;)

Here you have the worst MM in BB history (rivaled by the keg's) followed by arguably the best.