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High Vit C & Blood Pressure - Interesting potential link
« on: January 09, 2009, 09:22:57 AM »
http://in.reuters.com/article/health/idINTRE4BT50820081230

By Joene Hendry

NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - A study in young adult women links high blood levels of vitamin C with lower blood pressure.

This "strongly suggests that vitamin C is specifically important in maintaining a healthy blood pressure," lead author Dr. Gladys Block, of the University of California, Berkeley, told Reuters Health.

Previous research linked high plasma levels of vitamin C with lower blood pressure among middle-age and older adults, typically those with higher than optimal blood pressure readings, Block and colleagues report in the Nutrition Journal.

The current study involved 242 black and white women, between 18 and 21 years old, with normal blood pressures, who were participants in the National Heart, Lung and Blood Institute Growth and Health Study. The girls had entered the trial when they were 8 to 11 years old. Over a 10-year period, their plasma levels of ascorbic acid (vitamin C) and blood pressure were monitored.

At year 10, Block and her colleagues found that blood pressure, both the systolic and diastolic (top and bottom reading), was inversely associated with ascorbic acid levels.

Specifically, women with the highest levels of ascorbic acid had a decline of about 4.66 mm Hg in systolic and 6.04 mm Hg in diastolic blood pressure compared with women with the lowest ascorbic acid levels. This difference still held true after researchers allowed for differences in body mass, race, education levels, and dietary fat and sodium intake.

Women with the lowest levels of plasma ascorbic acid likely consumed average amounts of fruits, vegetables, and fortified foods while those with the highest plasma ascorbic acid levels likely ate diets rich in fruits and vegetables or took multivitamins or vitamin C supplements, the researchers note.

Further analyses of vitamin C and blood pressure changes over the previous year, "also strongly suggested that the people with the highest blood level of vitamin C had the least increase in blood pressure," Block said.

Since these findings infer a possible association between vitamin C and blood pressure in healthy young adults, Block and colleagues call for further investigations in this population.

SOURCE: Nutrition Journal, December 17, 2008
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Re: High Vit C & Blood Pressure - Interesting potential link
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2009, 11:49:11 AM »
Very nice find, vitamine c also increases sex drive :D


this stuff is great. it cures a cold if taken to bowel tolerance also. Like 20 grams a day when you are sick.


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Re: High Vit C & Blood Pressure - Interesting potential link
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2009, 11:51:49 AM »
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: Nutr J. 2008 Dec 17;7(1):35. [Epub ahead of print] Links
Vitamin C in plasma is inversely related to blood pressure and change in blood pressure during the previous year in young Black and White women.Block G, Jensen CD, Norkus EP, Hudes M, Crawford PB.
ABSTRACT: BACKGROUND: The prevalence of hypertension and its contribution to cardiovascular disease risk makes it imperative to identify factors that may help prevent this disorder. Extensive biological and biochemical data suggest that plasma ascorbic acid may be such a factor. In this study we examined the association between plasma ascorbic acid concentration and blood pressure (BP) in young-adult women. METHODS: Participants were 242 Black and White women aged 18-21 yr from the Richmond, CA, cohort of the National Heart, Lung and Blood Institute Growth and Health Study. We examined the associations of plasma ascorbic acid with BP at follow-up year 10, and with change in BP during the previous year. RESULTS: In cross-sectional analysis, plasma ascorbic acid at year 10 was inversely associated with systolic BP and diastolic BP after adjusting for race, body mass index, education, and dietary intake of fat and sodium. Persons in the highest one-fourth of the plasma ascorbic acid distribution had 4.66 mmHg lower systolic BP (95% CI 1.10 to 8.22 mmHg, p=0.005) and 6.04 mmHg lower diastolic BP (95% CI 2.70 to 9.38 mmHg, p=0.0002) than those in the lowest one-fourth of the distribution. In analysis of the change in BP, plasma ascorbic acid was also inversely associated with change in systolic BP and diastolic BP during the previous year. While diastolic blood pressure among persons in the lowest quartile of plasma ascorbic acid increased by 5.97 mmHg (95% CI 3.82 to 8.13 mmHg) from year 9 to year 10, those in the highest quartile of plasma vitamin C increased by only 0.23 mmHg (95% CI -1.90 to +2.36 mmHg) (test for linear trend: p<0.0001). A similar effect was seen for change in systolic BP, p=0.005. CONCLUSIONS: Plasma ascorbic acid was found to be inversely associated with BP and change in BP during the prior year. The findings suggest the possibility that vitamin C may influence BP in healthy young adults. Since lower BP in young adulthood may lead to lower BP and decreased incidence of age-associated vascular events in older adults, further investigation of treatment effects of vitamin C on BP regulation in young adults is warranted.


1: Ann N Y Acad Sci. 2002 Apr;959:180-7. Links
Ascorbic acid, blood pressure, and the American diet.Block G.
School of Public Health, University of California, Berkeley, California 94720, USA. gblock@uclink4.berkeley.edu

A large controlled study supported by the NIH, the DASH study (Dietary Approaches to Stop Hypertension), demonstrated that a diet rich in fruits and vegetables can reduce blood pressure in persons with moderate elevation in blood pressure (BP). Fruits and vegetables are important sources of antioxidants such as vitamin C and carotenoids. We conducted a study in which we fed people a diet deficient in vitamin C for 30 days, followed for another 30 days by a diet adequate in vitamin C. Their blood levels of vitamin C and blood pressure (BP) were tracked. Plasma vitamin C was inversely related to diastolic blood pressure one month later (correlation = -0.48, P < 0.0001). Persons whose blood levels of vitamin C went down the furthest on depletion had the highest blood pressure one month later. Persons in the lowest one-fourth of the plasma vitamin C distribution had diastolic BP 7 mm Hg higher than did those in the upper one-fourth of the plasma ascorbic acid distribution. Multivariate control for age, body mass index, other plasma antioxidants, and dietary energy, calcium, fiber, sodium, and potassium did not reduce the plasma vitamin C effect. We believe that this indicates that the tissue stores of vitamin C may be important in regulating blood pressure. It is often thought that Americans' intake of vitamin C is ample, since the average intake is about 100 mg/day. However, this average level obscures the fact that substantial numbers of people actually have habitually low intake levels and low blood levels. African Americans tend to have low blood levels of vitamin C as well as the highest risk of hypertension. Low intake of antioxidant-rich fruits and vegetables may be one of the causes of hypertension.


1: Hypertension. 2001 Feb;37(2):261-7. Links

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Hypertension. 2001 Feb;37(2):268-9.
Ascorbic acid status and subsequent diastolic and systolic blood pressure.Block G, Mangels AR, Norkus EP, Patterson BH, Levander OA, Taylor PR.
National Cancer Institute, Bethesda, MD, USA.

Free radicals and oxidation are involved in several aspects of blood pressure physiology. We investigated the relationship between blood pressure and antioxidants, including plasma ascorbic acid (AscA), in a 17-week controlled-diet study. Study subjects included 68 men aged 30 to 59 years who had a mean diastolic blood pressure of 73.4 mm Hg and a mean systolic blood pressure of 122.2 mm Hg. One month of vitamin C depletion was followed by 1-month repletion with 117 mg/d, repeated twice. All food and drink were provided in the study. Subjects did not smoke or drink alcohol, all consumed fruits and vegetables, and body weight was maintained. Plasma was assayed periodically for AscA, alpha-tocopherol, carotenoids, and lipids. Plasma AscA was inversely related to diastolic blood pressure 1 month later (correlation -0.48, P:<0.0001). Persons in the bottom fourth of the plasma AscA distribution had >7 mm Hg higher diastolic blood pressure than did those in the top fourth of the plasma AscA distribution. Multivariate analysis with control for age, body mass index, other plasma antioxidants, and dietary energy, calcium, fiber, sodium, and potassium did not reduce the plasma AscA effect. One fourth of the variance in diastolic blood pressure was accounted for by plasma AscA alone. Plasma AscA was also significantly associated with systolic blood pressure in logistic regression. Vitamin C may be an important component of the effectiveness of fruits and vegetables in the reduction in blood pressure, and tissue AscA levels may be important in the maintenance of low blood pressure. Long-term intervention studies are warranted.


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Re: High Vit C & Blood Pressure - Interesting potential link
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2009, 12:34:32 PM »
Vitamin C is something that I have been taking for many years. I take 6 grams daily split into 3 to 4 doses. It also will keep your arteries clear as well as keep your BP down. I used to eat when I was younger 1 to 2 dozen eggs (yolks included) and plenty of red meat. As I got older I eat les,s but still the same foods. Had my arteries checked last year and have zero plaque buildup. There are also a couple of amino acids you can take with the C. One will help dissolve existing plaque and the other will keep it from binding to the artery wall. Expect a higher blood cholesterol level while you are doing this from the dissolving plaque. Tons of info I can post, but not time now. If anyone is interested in more let me know.  :)

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« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2009, 01:10:11 PM »
Very nice find, vitamine c also increases sex drive :D


this stuff is great. it cures a cold if taken to bowel tolerance also. Like 20 grams a day when you are sick.

I did an experiment on myself once & found that about 15+ grams a day gave me the shits.  :-\

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« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2009, 03:51:11 PM »
I did an experiment on myself once & found that about 15+ grams a day gave me the shits.  :-\

To find your tolerance just what till that happens and then just back off a couple of grams. I usually take with food.

Vit C will not cure a cold any more than it will prevent them. Of course it will strengthen your immune system. You will still get the virus while taking C and again it may reduce the side effect and shorten the duration of the cold virus.

If you want to stop a cold dead in it's tracks use Zicam. The stuff is a miracle. I have been using this stuff for over 7 years and at the first sign of a cold you need to start using it. I have only had one full blown cold in 7 years. The Zicam only failed me once. From what I can find out the zinc supposedly plugs into the same receptor sites that the virus does and does not allow it to replicate. I called the company about the time that it did not work and was told that since there are almost 500 different cold viruses, there are probably a few that it will not work against. You need to remember  that each time you get a cold you become immune to that specific virus for life.

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« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2009, 04:33:19 PM »
To find your tolerance just what till that happens and then just back off a couple of grams. I usually take with food.

I've taken 10 grams a day for long periods without any problems.

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« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2009, 04:42:34 PM »
I've taken 10 grams a day for long periods without any problems.


That shoud be plenty.

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« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2009, 08:13:48 PM »
To find your tolerance just what till that happens and then just back off a couple of grams. I usually take with food.

Vit C will not cure a cold any more than it will prevent them. Of course it will strengthen your immune system. You will still get the virus while taking C and again it may reduce the side effect and shorten the duration of the cold virus.

If you want to stop a cold dead in it's tracks use Zicam. The stuff is a miracle. I have been using this stuff for over 7 years and at the first sign of a cold you need to start using it. I have only had one full blown cold in 7 years. The Zicam only failed me once. From what I can find out the zinc supposedly plugs into the same receptor sites that the virus does and does not allow it to replicate. I called the company about the time that it did not work and was told that since there are almost 500 different cold viruses, there are probably a few that it will not work against. You need to remember  that each time you get a cold you become immune to that specific virus for life.

no no this shit cures colds at bowel tolerance doses, you can actually experiment with yourself, bowel tolerance increases during viral infections due to lowered intracellular ascorbic acid levels ime.

Virii also mutate so humoral memory is not permenant as one would think. We do have antibodies to specific antigenic triggers but the bugs can outsmart our shitty immune system. Look at TB.

ill see if i can find studies.

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« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2009, 08:38:24 PM »
no no this shit cures colds at bowel tolerance doses, you can actually experiment with yourself, bowel tolerance increases during viral infections due to lowered intracellular ascorbic acid levels ime.

Virii also mutate so humoral memory is not permenant as one would think. We do have antibodies to specific antigenic triggers but the bugs can outsmart our shitty immune system. Look at TB.

ill see if i can find studies.

So am I right in saying that at bowel tolerance levels you can still contract and get the symptoms of the cold virus and then cure it? Cure would not be the correct assumption as all you are doing at this stage would be to shorten the duration as I am sure that there are no studies out there that shows bowel tolerance levels of Vit C can cure which would mean to "kill" the virus once it is contracted. Also, IF Vit C did "cure" meaning kill the cold virus at tolerance levels then you would not even get a symptom once it entered the body as it would be killed off by the Vit C  again, "before you got any symptoms".

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« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2009, 08:48:16 PM »
google Linus Pauling for all the benfits of Vitamin C
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« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2009, 09:05:57 PM »
google Linus Pauling for all the benfits of Vitamin C

Been reading about him for years. Dr Rath has continued on with his work. Have a couple of Dr Rath's book. VERY informative.