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Assuming caloric intake remains constant, and that he reaches 400 grams protein by lowering carbs and fat accordingly, what gains would he see?  Any?

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Re: Natural 200lb bodybuilder jumps from 250 to 400 grams protein daily
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2009, 04:44:24 PM »
probably more hardness.

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Re: Natural 200lb bodybuilder jumps from 250 to 400 grams protein daily
« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2009, 04:47:48 PM »
Explosive diarrhea and protein farts :)

being natural, your body doesn't have the required mechanism to proccess that much protein efficiently.

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Re: Natural 200lb bodybuilder jumps from 250 to 400 grams protein daily
« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2009, 04:49:43 PM »
Explosive diarrhea and protein farts :)

being natural, your body doesn't have the required mechanism to proccess that much protein efficiently.

This long term could possibly lead to colon cancer.
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Re: Natural 200lb bodybuilder jumps from 250 to 400 grams protein daily
« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2009, 04:50:23 PM »
This long term could possibly lead to colon cancer.
::) epic exaggeration.

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Re: Natural 200lb bodybuilder jumps from 250 to 400 grams protein daily
« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2009, 04:50:56 PM »
A lot of dark coloured piss.

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Re: Natural 200lb bodybuilder jumps from 250 to 400 grams protein daily
« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2009, 04:52:54 PM »
A lighter wallet.

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Re: Natural 200lb bodybuilder jumps from 250 to 400 grams protein daily
« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2009, 04:53:22 PM »
::) epic exaggeration.
Obstructive lesions -- colon or Rectal Cancers may present (i.e., reveal symptoms) as slowly worsening Diarrhea syndromes. Stools may be narrow and the abdomen bloated. The patient will likely feel constipated, due to the inability to evacuate.
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Re: Natural 200lb bodybuilder jumps from 250 to 400 grams protein daily
« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2009, 04:54:38 PM »
Explosive diarrhea and protein farts :)

being natural, your body doesn't have the required mechanism to proccess that much protein efficiently.

Malabsorption -- certain foods cannot be absorbed properly and are passed into the stool, resulting in Diarrhea in an attempt to excrete them. Symptoms include those of osmotic Diarrhea (since it acts like one), weight loss, and nutritional deficiencies. Causes include bacterial overgrowth, chronic pancreatitis (pancreas fails to produce the enzymes needed to breakdown food), previous intestinal resections (part of the intestine surgically removed), and lymphatic obstruction.
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Re: Natural 200lb bodybuilder jumps from 250 to 400 grams protein daily
« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2009, 04:55:43 PM »
Hey, best of luck to ya!
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Re: Natural 200lb bodybuilder jumps from 250 to 400 grams protein daily
« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2009, 06:47:40 PM »
Ask boonstack or whatever his name is. 

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Re: Natural 200lb bodybuilder jumps from 250 to 400 grams protein daily
« Reply #11 on: February 11, 2009, 09:43:47 PM »
these dudes are 'tarded .... a natty or not your gonna digest and absorb all of that protein (well 98% on average)....  and youll USE all the protien you eat too... no.. just cuz your 'using' protein doesnt mean yoru growin... thats where most guys get confused..

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Re: Natural 200lb bodybuilder jumps from 250 to 400 grams protein daily
« Reply #13 on: February 11, 2009, 11:22:12 PM »
these dudes are 'tarded .... a natty or not your gonna digest and absorb all of that protein (well 98% on average)....  and youll USE all the protien you eat too... no.. just cuz your 'using' protein doesnt mean yoru growin... thats where most guys get confused..

You might want to read some studies, most of the exogenous protein consumed (for a natural lifter at least) goes out in waste, puts strain on your kidneys and gets thrown out with everything else when you take a  crap, for a natural maybe 50-60% of protein taken in is actually absorbed.

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Re: Natural 200lb bodybuilder jumps from 250 to 400 grams protein daily
« Reply #14 on: February 11, 2009, 11:23:54 PM »
You might want to read some studies, most of the exogenous protein consumed (for a natural lifter at least) goes out in waste, puts strain on your kidneys and gets thrown out with everything else when you take a  crap, for a natural maybe 50-60% of protein taken in is actually absorbed.

protein absortion rate is 98% on average for all healthy human beings

none goes to waste

healthy individuals with healthy kidneys experience no damage at all to kidneys with high protein intake

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Re: Natural 200lb bodybuilder jumps from 250 to 400 grams protein daily
« Reply #15 on: February 11, 2009, 11:35:31 PM »
Assuming caloric intake remains constant, and that he reaches 400 grams protein by lowering carbs and fat accordingly, what gains would he see?  Any?

No significant change in body composition if rate of weight change remains the same (rather than caloric intake).

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Re: Natural 200lb bodybuilder jumps from 250 to 400 grams protein daily
« Reply #16 on: February 12, 2009, 02:08:46 AM »
protein absortion rate is 98% on average for all healthy human beings

none goes to waste

healthy individuals with healthy kidneys experience no damage at all to kidneys with high protein intake

Yes, that's healthy males ingesting about 0.5-1g of protein per kilo of bodyweight, no 300-400g like some of the retards on here.

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Re: Natural 200lb bodybuilder jumps from 250 to 400 grams protein daily
« Reply #17 on: February 12, 2009, 08:33:27 AM »
very good insight, thanks

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Re: Natural 200lb bodybuilder jumps from 250 to 400 grams protein daily
« Reply #18 on: February 12, 2009, 08:37:21 AM »
protein absortion rate is 98% on average for all healthy human beings

none goes to waste

healthy individuals with healthy kidneys experience no damage at all to kidneys with high protein intake
exactly, "captain equipoise" is just spouting the same myths and garbage that people have been talking for years.

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Re: Natural 200lb bodybuilder jumps from 250 to 400 grams protein daily
« Reply #19 on: February 12, 2009, 08:38:24 AM »
A lighter wallet.

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I was thinkin the same thing first and foremost.
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Re: Natural 200lb bodybuilder jumps from 250 to 400 grams protein daily
« Reply #20 on: February 12, 2009, 08:55:22 AM »
Assuming caloric intake remains constant, and that he reaches 400 grams protein by lowering carbs and fat accordingly, what gains would he see?  Any?

That’s too big off a jump. What will likely happen is that he’ll have a lot of tummy aches and feel rather sluggish. This guy should have gone from 250 to 300. Chances are he’ll see good results by sticking with that amount for a few months.

Just as it is with lifting weights, gradual increase in caloric intake (protein, carbs, or fats) makes for a better dietary strategy.

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Re: Natural 200lb bodybuilder jumps from 250 to 400 grams protein daily
« Reply #21 on: February 12, 2009, 10:23:14 AM »
protein absortion rate is 98% on average for all healthy human beings

none goes to waste

healthy individuals with healthy kidneys experience no damage at all to kidneys with high protein intake

Well, no. You can eat all protein you want, but the fact is that your body cannot store any of it, so your body utilize some of it and rest goes to waste. If you eat 100g of protein per meal, you use only 25 grams and 75 grams goes trough your system doing you nothing but harm. If you accelerate your metabolism by using gh or steroids, you can utilize more, but if you don't, you are only wasting your money by eating more than you should. It is very simple maths: your body weight in pounds / 2,2 x 1,8 to 2,5 grams of protein per day. For example 200lb natural builder = 90,9 kilos x 2,5 g = 230g of protein per day. If you eat more, you gain nothing but expenses and a possibility of health hazard because your system still have to deal with all that excess what you eat...   

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Re: Natural 200lb bodybuilder jumps from 250 to 400 grams protein daily
« Reply #22 on: February 12, 2009, 10:37:34 AM »
Well, no. You can eat all protein you want, but the fact is that your body cannot store any of it, so your body utilize some of it and rest goes to waste. If you eat 100g of protein per meal, you use only 25 grams and 75 grams goes trough your system doing you nothing but harm. If you accelerate your metabolism by using gh or steroids, you can utilize more, but if you don't, you are only wasting your money by eating more than you should. It is very simple maths: your body weight in pounds / 2,2 x 1,8 to 2,5 grams of protein per day. For example 200lb natural builder = 90,9 kilos x 2,5 g = 230g of protein per day. If you eat more, you gain nothing but expenses and a possibility of health hazard because your system still have to deal with all that excess what you eat...   

Show me a scientific research that concludes that high amounts of Protein are harmfully. Protein consumption will be maximazed in small doses during the day, providing constants supply of amino-acids. The consuption of 100g of Protein will certainty decrease its absorption, but so will ANY substance taking in excess. Small doses of 30g to 40g during the day are optimal.

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Re: Natural 200lb bodybuilder jumps from 250 to 400 grams protein daily
« Reply #23 on: February 12, 2009, 11:13:09 AM »
Show me a scientific research that concludes that high amounts of Protein are harmfully. Protein consumption will be maximazed in small doses during the day, providing constants supply of amino-acids. The consuption of 100g of Protein will certainty decrease its absorption, but so will ANY substance taking in excess. Small doses of 30g to 40g during the day are optimal.

Why are you asking me, when you have a google right under your nose? Try it, and you will find just those answers you like. If I do the search, you don't like what I find. You can try to figure that question out by thinking what happen to protein you eat. You seem to think that it goes right to your muscles and make them bigger, but that isn't all what is in to it. You body chop proteins to amino acids, which you can utilize in your system up to a certain amount. How about that extra amount of amino acids which you have eaten. Where that goes?  Where those protein farts comes and what make them smell so bad, like you has been decomposed inside? Well, If we simplify the subject to the max and beyond, all the way at the point where it is simple enough for you to understand, that is just what has happen. Excessive protein goes bad in you digestion and it produce gas, ammonia etc. in your system, and only history will prove what will be long term effect to all that, because there isn't any study about teen nerds who has too high protein intake. You guys always miss the big picture: It isn't just smoke, booze, pollution, yellow snow or excessive protein, but all that shit together in your system. What ever you eat today, will probably kill you 10 years from now, so if you want to live to see your first pubic hair, you must be very careful.

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Re: Natural 200lb bodybuilder jumps from 250 to 400 grams protein daily
« Reply #24 on: February 12, 2009, 11:20:39 AM »
I went from 150 to 300 daily grams in the last 3 days.  holy crap, i'm hard all over.  Lots of chicken breasts and apples.  I'm feeling like a well oiled machines.  No mcd either.