Author Topic: Blame Dorian for the state of modern BBing...... (Read 7676 times)

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #25 on:** March 03, 2009, 01:00:11 PM »

Quote from: bigbobs on March 03, 2009, 12:54:24 PM

So what's your point? As the other pics in this thread show you can find pics of any of the larger pros where they are breathing in and haven't yet tightened their waist and makes their waist look large. But here toe to toe, both Yates and Nasser are trying to hold their waist in at the same bodyweight of 270 and Yates' waist has a number of inches over Nasser's

Yates' wasn't holding his his waist FYI read the contest report for the 97 Olympia McGough comments on this specifically , this is 1997 Dorian holding his waist tight , that particular year Dorian's gut was terrible anyway no excuses but Nasser had a massive gut as well he just held it in better

bigbobs · « **Reply #26 on:** March 03, 2009, 01:02:08 PM »

Nasser El Sonbaty - the first mass monster (270 + at average height) to keep the waist tight

bigbobs · « **Reply #27 on:** March 03, 2009, 01:03:28 PM »

Quote from: NarcissisticDeity on March 03, 2009, 01:00:11 PM

Yates' wasn't holding his his waist FYI read the contest report for the 97 Olympia McGough comments on this specifically , this is 1997 Dorian holding his waist tight , that particular year Dorian's gut was terrible anyway no excuses but Nasser had a massive gut as well he just held it in better

Okay so he was standing there letting his waist hang out intentionally?

And yes, I agree with you that Nasser did hold it in better and while they were both at the same bodyweight. Thanks for supporting my point.

Immortal_Technique · « **Reply #28 on:** March 03, 2009, 01:04:12 PM »

Quote from: NarcissisticDeity on March 03, 2009, 11:41:34 AM

Perfect back double biceps shot , complete from head to toe .....lacks nothing

Talk about delts overpowering arms. If we're gonna pick holes. zero back width in that shot too, thick as a brick with dense traps etc, but not much in the biceps department for a double biceps shot.

Parker · « **Reply #29 on:** March 03, 2009, 01:04:16 PM »

Quote from: bigbobs on March 03, 2009, 10:50:57 AM

Nasser pushed the envelope even further in the offseason reaching up to 330 lbs with abs

(311 lbs in the last picture)

And Victor Richard would have made him looked like a kid. That's if we are talking about Off season.

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #30 on:** March 03, 2009, 01:04:59 PM »

Quote from: bigbobs on March 03, 2009, 01:02:08 PM

Nasser El Sonbaty - the first (and only?) mass monster (270 + at average height) to keep the waist tight

What does tight mean? he held his gut in?

bigbobs · « **Reply #31 on:** March 03, 2009, 01:06:31 PM »

Quote from: Parker on March 03, 2009, 01:04:16 PM

And Victor Richard would have made him looked like a kid. That's if we are talking about Off season.

You are delusional to think offseason Vic was bigger than offseason Nasser

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #32 on:** March 03, 2009, 01:07:26 PM »

Quote from: Immortal_Technique on March 03, 2009, 01:04:12 PM

Talk about delts overpowering arms. If we're gonna pick holes. zero back width in that shot too, thick as a brick with dense traps etc, but not much in the biceps department for a double biceps shot.

keep looking maybe you'll find something to call a ' flaw ' to unbiased and people who know how poses are judged that is as good as it gets

bigbobs · « **Reply #33 on:** March 03, 2009, 01:09:08 PM »

Quote from: NarcissisticDeity on March 03, 2009, 01:04:59 PM

What does tight mean? he held his gut in?

Yes, his waist was not out of control like the other mass monsters such that he was able to hold it in when posing

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #34 on:** March 03, 2009, 01:10:11 PM »

Quote from: bigbobs on March 03, 2009, 01:02:08 PM

Nasser El Sonbaty - the first mass monster (270 + at average height) to keep the waist tight

Sorry that was already taken by Victor Richards in the 80s

and I don't know about CA but the average hight in the USA is 5'9" Vic is right around that with a small tight waist at 270 pounds , thanks for playing tough

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #35 on:** March 03, 2009, 01:11:22 PM »

Quote from: bigbobs on March 03, 2009, 01:09:08 PM

Yes, his waist was not out of control like the other mass monsters such that he was able to hold it in when posing

It was there just in control . o.k thanks for clarifying that

bigbobs · « **Reply #36 on:** March 03, 2009, 01:11:33 PM »

Quote from: NarcissisticDeity on March 03, 2009, 01:10:11 PM

Sorry that was already taken by Victor Richards in the 80s and I don't know about CA but the average hight in the USA is 5'9" Vic is right around that with a small tight waist at 270 pounds , thanks for playing tough

hahaha I expected you to be smarter than the type to give in to the Vic Richards 270 lbs @ 5'9" hype

JasonH · « **Reply #37 on:** March 03, 2009, 01:11:48 PM »

Victor was a damn good bodybuilder - shame he didn't compete against the top guys. $:-\$

Palpatine Q · « **Reply #38 on:** March 03, 2009, 01:12:13 PM »

Nasser just has a shitty look to his physique, now matter how big he is.

bigbobs · « **Reply #39 on:** March 03, 2009, 01:12:43 PM »

Quote from: NarcissisticDeity on March 03, 2009, 01:11:22 PM

It was there just in control . o.k thanks for clarifying that

Unlike Yates who could not keep it in control even at 270, let alone 289 like Nasser was at the 99 Arnold Classic

bigbobs · « **Reply #40 on:** March 03, 2009, 01:13:27 PM »

Quote from: BigJ on March 03, 2009, 01:11:48 PM

Victor was a damn good bodybuilder - shame he didn't compete against the top guys. $:-\$

He would have been "left for the dead"

JasonH · « **Reply #41 on:** March 03, 2009, 01:16:33 PM »

Quote from: bigbobs on March 03, 2009, 01:13:27 PM

He would have been "left for the dead"

Still would have been good to see how high he would have placed in an Olympia.

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #42 on:** March 03, 2009, 01:16:51 PM »

Quote from: bigbobs on March 03, 2009, 01:11:33 PM

hahaha I expected you to be smarter than the type to give in to the Vic Richards 270 lbs @ 5'9" hype

That's your response?

bigbobs · « **Reply #43 on:** March 03, 2009, 01:17:40 PM »

Quote from: BigJ on March 03, 2009, 01:16:33 PM

Still would have been good to see how high he would have placed in an Olympia.

The reason he never competed was to maintain the mystique as to how he would have placed had he competed, and people like you fall for that.

SargeJohn · « **Reply #44 on:** March 03, 2009, 01:18:53 PM »

Dorian is completely the wrong person to take any blame. He was the champion...he wasn't the one making decisions who would win Mr O's. Different people are responsible for bodybuilding's current state. Also it is very boring to read these religious endless arguments about Nasser and Dorian. The thing is that you people (in this case) don't even care about Dorian or Nasser...for you they're just tools which you use to argue brainlessly.

Parker · « **Reply #45 on:** March 03, 2009, 01:20:06 PM »

Quote from: bigbobs on March 03, 2009, 01:06:31 PM

You are delusional to think offseason Vic was bigger than offseason Nasser

Dude, your Delusional Period, take a look at that vid. Vic, was genetic phenom. He liked lifting weights, he was bigger than 99.9% of getbiggers at age 17 and had the muscle (and pics) to prove it.

He just didn't like getting in shape. And, Paul Dillett was bigger than Nasser as well.

And by the way, I have a question, you always talk about "Great Arab Genetics", but every female you post up that you claim is signif other, is either blonde or brunette white chick ( or a if they are arab, they aren't brown, or they are very Euro looking) . What's the deal, about bangin' Arab woman? It seems that Arab men in thongs, have great arab genetics, but arab women don't have the genes for you liking

QuakerOats · « **Reply #46 on:** March 03, 2009, 01:20:21 PM »

Quote from: pumpster on March 03, 2009, 11:13:40 AM

I give you the original GH man AKA the bricklayer.

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #47 on:** March 03, 2009, 01:20:58 PM »

Quote from: bigbobs on March 03, 2009, 01:12:43 PM

Unlike Yates who could not keep it in control even at 270, let alone 289 like Nasser was at the 99 Arnold Classic

270 pounds , in control

QuakerOats · « **Reply #48 on:** March 03, 2009, 01:22:14 PM »

Quote from: Parker on March 03, 2009, 01:20:06 PM

Dude, your Delusional Period, take a look at that vid. Vic, was genetic phenom. He liked lifting weights, he was bigger than 99.9% of getbiggers at age 17 and had the muscle (and pics) to prove it.

He just didn't like getting in shape. And, Paul Dillett was bigger than Nasser as well.

And by the way, I have a question, you always talk about "Great Arab Genetics", but every female you post up that you claim is signif other, is either blonde or brunette white chick ( or a if they are arab, they aren't brown, or they are very Euro looking) . What's the deal, about bangin' Arab woman? It seems that Arab men in thongs, have great arab genetics, but arab women don't have the genes for you liking

epic hypocrisy, you do the exact same thing when it comes to black bodybuilders.

wild willie · « **Reply #49 on:** March 03, 2009, 01:23:57 PM »

let's just agree that none of us like to see bloated stomachs and torn bodyparts.

that is not what bodybuilding was meant to be about.