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Re: Germans Highest average IQ In The World: 107
« Reply #75 on: March 05, 2009, 01:23:22 PM »
Do the Germans resent the Americans stationed there?  ???
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Re: Germans Highest average IQ In The World: 107
« Reply #76 on: March 05, 2009, 01:24:16 PM »
 You know, Pumpy, I agree with you here. At the Nuremberg Trials, Goering said Germany could have easily defeated the U.S, or the U.K or the U.S.S.R, but not all three combined, and that Hitler's key mistake was to fight on three fronts - in Africa vs the Brits led by Montgomery, in Northwestern Europe vs the U.S + the Brits and the eastern front vs the Soviets. However, most military specialists believe that, in the year of 1941, the Wehrmatch could have defeated all three combined if German generalship had been at the formidable level of it's military technology, organization and tactical competence. When fighting against a foe(U.S + U.S.S.R) that had 10 times it's population and 50 times it's resource capacity, German generals couldn't afford to make even a single mistake to win the war, and they made several. It is amazing, though, that even then the U.S still took almost an year to go from Normandy to Berlim despite having 20 times more military industry than Germany, and that Germany was on it's knees and had 65% of it's resources committed on the Eastern front. It puts in perpective just how massively powerful the German army was even at the end.

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Re: Germans Highest average IQ In The World: 107
« Reply #77 on: March 05, 2009, 01:28:02 PM »
Frankfurt was a huge base.  Ours was tiny.  I loved Germany.

I was near Friedberg, where Elvis Presley was stationed.  ;D ;D

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Re: Germans Highest average IQ In The World: 107
« Reply #78 on: March 05, 2009, 01:31:13 PM »
I once lived in Augsburg.
Birthplace of Ernst Stavro Blofeld.  :D

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Re: Germans Highest average IQ In The World: 107
« Reply #79 on: March 05, 2009, 01:56:51 PM »
 Again, you are not taking into account the stress Britain put on Germany's industrial military capability. Britain is an island and thus the Germans could never invade it, and the Royal Air Force starting in 1940 bombed Germany's heavy industry on the Rhine almost daily. This combined with the fact that the Wehrmacht was always bailing out the incompetent Italians in northern Africa, plus the heavy civil resistence in occupied Eastern Europe, put a great deal of strain on Germany and significantly aided the Soviets. This, combined with the fact that the Russians had 3 times more heavy industry, 2 times the population, 4 times the oil and knew the territory much better because they were fightring at home, made it almost impossible for Germany to win. And BTW, the Wehrmacht got to Moscow's suburbs and almost took it.

  As for what you said about Hitler's options, he would have to take several nations before he could hit Russia from the south, and it's doubtful whether that would be somehow superior to hitting Germany from Eastern Europe. Germany's Waterloo was Stalingrad, and that's because Hitler insisted on taking the city instead of just wiping it from the face of the Earth. If I were Paulus, what I would have done would be to move my troops in two split groups, one to the south and the other to the north, then enveloping the city from all sides, barricating the city and stopping anyone from fleeing, and then just bomb the city to rubbles from the air and with long-distance artillary. That would have been the smart thing to do. Eventually, the few survivors would surrender and the battle would have been won with the Red Army troops locked inside the city unable to flee or fight back. But Hitler was a proud man who wanted to simply conquer the city in a direct assault, for no other reason than the city was named after his arch-nemesis, and he wanted to humiliate Stalin. Hitler's arrogance and obsession with man-to-man combat - to prove the superiority of German warriors - cost him the war. :)

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You got this one wrong. After Dunkirk England was defenseless. Yes, over 300,000 Allied soldiers made it back to the island but they had to leave all heavy weapons behind. Of course had Hitler not blundered at Dunkirk but instead taken all the Allies as prisoners the invasion of England would have been as easy as 1-2-3. Anyhow, Hitler proceeded to bombard the British airfields and radar stations attempting to gain air superiority to begin the invasion. Had he not shifted his focus to bombing London out of rage he would have gained air superiority and German paratroopers could have taken all valuable airfields until reinforcements would have made it across the channel. In the same fashion the Germans took Crete from the British they could have taken a largely defenseless country/island in August of 1940. This would have kicked the British out of the war and all of Northern Africa, Gibraltar, Crete, Malta and the entire Middle east would have fallen into German hands.

Even with not invading England Hitler could have easily defeated the British in Northern Africa and the Middle East in 1940 right after the victory over France. This would have brought him to the gates of Southern Russia in 1940. Governments like Turkey, Iraq and Iran were all pro-German at the time.

Instead he chose to launch a full frontal attack on Russia in June of 1941. He underestimated the Russian military capacity and despite huge victories in the first few weeks he quickly ran behind his timetable. When he decided to shift his panzers from Army Group North and Army Group Center away from Leningrad and Moscow to take advantage of the Kiew encirclement, the war was lost because there was no way to make it to Moscow before the onset of the rain and mud season in autum. He should have been more daring and kept on moving towards Leningrad and Moscow while letting Army Group South take care of the Kiew encirclement by itself. The war was lost in 1941 by not defeating the Red Army.

It doesn't matter what happened in 1942. The Wehrmacht never regained its strength it had in 1941. Stalingrad or not, in 1942 Germany never again had the overall strength to possibly defeat the Red Army.


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Re: Germans Highest average IQ In The World: 107
« Reply #80 on: March 05, 2009, 01:59:04 PM »
no!  in fact i only came back in germany for fibo and koln or aachen christmas marketand to see some family in jackerath.

thats my hometown !

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Re: Germans Highest average IQ In The World: 107
« Reply #81 on: March 05, 2009, 02:04:16 PM »
Great thread :D

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Re: Germans Highest average IQ In The World: 107
« Reply #82 on: March 05, 2009, 02:05:53 PM »
Do the Germans resent the Americans stationed there?  ???
They didn't when I was there, but that was in teh 90's.

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Re: Germans Highest average IQ In The World: 107
« Reply #83 on: March 05, 2009, 02:16:14 PM »
germany is a model country, it makes even most other first-world nations look like dirty, sprawling shitholes. everything is so clean and orderly

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Re: Germans Highest average IQ In The World: 107
« Reply #84 on: March 05, 2009, 02:19:57 PM »
Germany just needs to get all them Turks out, and stop paying Israel thouse 10 Billion per year..

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Re: Germans Highest average IQ In The World: 107
« Reply #85 on: March 05, 2009, 02:21:57 PM »
Germany just needs to get all them Turks out, and stop paying Israel thouse 10 Billion per year..

why do you say it?
should the usa get rid of all the niggaz?no...
so why should germany get rid of us?the economy would crush into oblivion

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Re: Germans Highest average IQ In The World: 107
« Reply #86 on: March 05, 2009, 02:22:37 PM »
The turks, jews and albanians have destroyed what was once the best country in europe, they are absolutely hated by pure Germans, when I was living in Hannover the turks were coming in by the busloads everyday and setting up their filthy homes.

interesting!


 Again, you are not taking into account the stress Britain put on Germany's industrial military capability. Britain is an island and thus the Germans could never invade it, and the Royal Air Force starting in 1940 bombed Germany's heavy industry on the Rhine almost daily. This combined with the fact that the Wehrmacht was always bailing out the incompetent Italians in northern Africa, plus the heavy civil resistence in occupied Eastern Europe, put a great deal of strain on Germany and significantly aided the Soviets. This, combined with the fact that the Russians had 3 times more heavy industry, 2 times the population, 4 times the oil and knew the territory much better because they were fightring at home, made it almost impossible for Germany to win. And BTW, the Wehrmacht got to Moscow's suburbs and almost took it.

  As for what you said about Hitler's options, he would have to take several nations before he could hit Russia from the south, and it's doubtful whether that would be somehow superior to hitting Germany from Eastern Europe. Germany's Waterloo was Stalingrad, and that's because Hitler insisted on taking the city instead of just wiping it from the face of the Earth. If I were Paulus, what I would have done would be to move my troops in two split groups, one to the south and the other to the north, then enveloping the city from all sides, barricating the city and stopping anyone from fleeing, and then just bomb the city to rubbles from the air and with long-distance artillary. That would have been the smart thing to do. Eventually, the few survivors would surrender and the battle would have been won with the Red Army troops locked inside the city unable to flee or fight back. But Hitler was a proud man who wanted to simply conquer the city in a direct assault, for no other reason than the city was named after his arch-nemesis, and he wanted to humiliate Stalin. Hitler's arrogance and obsession with man-to-man combat - to prove the superiority of German warriors - cost him the war. :)

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Yes, just bypass the city. That way the troops that remain inside will be cut off and not resupplied. A surrender would be inevitable in the end.
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Re: Germans Highest average IQ In The World: 107
« Reply #87 on: March 05, 2009, 02:28:35 PM »
The German people are a conquered people.  Their country and their culture is DONE, FINISHED!  They are has beens as far as a society.  They are one of the most heavily taxed socialist countries in the world.  Their birthrate is one of the lowest in the worlds.  Sad actually. 

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Re: Germans Highest average IQ In The World: 107
« Reply #88 on: March 05, 2009, 02:28:55 PM »
without us turks germany's economy would die

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Re: Germans Highest average IQ In The World: 107
« Reply #89 on: March 05, 2009, 02:30:23 PM »
germany is still the best country to live in
there not many countries which can reach germany's standards...maybe sweden,austria,norway etc

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Re: Germans Highest average IQ In The World: 107
« Reply #90 on: March 05, 2009, 02:31:02 PM »
without us turks germany's economy would die

Yeah right, Germany realy needs all thouse turks to live off its welfare.

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Re: Germans Highest average IQ In The World: 107
« Reply #91 on: March 05, 2009, 02:31:33 PM »
interesting!


Yes, just bypass the city. That way the troops that remain inside will be cut off and not resupplied. A surrender would be inevitable in the end.

How stupid are you guys??? This didn't work with Leningrad and it tied down the bulk of Army Group North for almost 2 yrs. Stalingrad could have been easily re-supplied from the east by the Red Army as the bulk of the German Army was heading south to the oildfields of the Caucus.

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Re: Germans Highest average IQ In The World: 107
« Reply #92 on: March 05, 2009, 02:31:45 PM »

In 1941 England was largely neutralized and the US had not entered the war yet. So pretty much all of the Wehrmacht's resources were committed to Operation Barbarossa and the Wehrmacht failed to defeat the Russians in 1941 as it had set out to do. The Blitzkrieg tactic failed in Russia and the war became a war of attrition that Germany eventually HAD to lose. By not defeating the Russians in 1941 the war was essentially lost.

Operation Barbarossa was Hitler's big fucckup. He never should have invaded Russia without first either beating or settling with Britain. He still could have defeted the Soviets in the end despite bogging down outside Moscow had he not been fighting the US and UK at the same time.  It was US/UK bombing that destroyed his wartime industrial capacity, not the Soviets, and he had to maintain significant numbers of his forces on the Western and Southern fronts whether he was actively engaging in ground fighting or not.
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Re: Germans Highest average IQ In The World: 107
« Reply #93 on: March 05, 2009, 02:32:56 PM »
Yeah right, Germany realy needs all thouse turks to live off its welfare.

i swear i don't know any turk,russian or whatever who lives off welfare...only german white trash live off welfare
the foreigners do the jobs the germans don't want to do,that's how it is

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Re: Germans Highest average IQ In The World: 107
« Reply #94 on: March 05, 2009, 02:34:33 PM »
without us turks germany's economy would die

bank account number or it didn't happen ;D
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Re: Germans Highest average IQ In The World: 107
« Reply #95 on: March 05, 2009, 02:35:21 PM »
it was a losing game to begin with, the soviets' strategy was to put up only sporadic resistance at the border- knowing the the blitzkrieging germans would crush any desperate stand at the border anyway-and instead draw them deeper and deeper into vast russian territory. the germans, already vastly outnumbered were spread thinner and thinner, supply lines got longer and longer, more time passed, weather turned bad, could not keep adequate supplys coming in,meanwhile the soviets were throwing wave after wave at their flanks and weak spots, soviets could continue moving their industy further east and out of reach, its amazing the germans held out as long as they did but barbarossa was inevitably going to fail

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Re: Germans Highest average IQ In The World: 107
« Reply #96 on: March 05, 2009, 02:36:50 PM »
Operation Barbarossa was Hitler's big fucckup. He never should have invaded Russia without first either beating or settling with Britain. He still could have defeted the Soviets in the end despite bogging down outside Moscow had he not been fighting the US and UK at the same time.  It was US/UK bombing that destroyed his wartime industrial capacity, not the Soviets, and he had to maintain significant numbers of his forces on the Western and Southern fronts whether he was actively engaging in ground fighting or not.

If Hilter would not have attacked Russian Stalin would have soon attacked Western Europe. Hitler did the right thing. However, he should have taken care of England in the summer of 1940 when he had the chance.

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Re: Germans Highest average IQ In The World: 107
« Reply #97 on: March 05, 2009, 02:38:07 PM »
Germany just needs to get all them Turks out, and stop paying Israel thouse 10 Billion per year..

exactly this is shameful, a travesty of the highest order, and should be stopped immediately

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Re: Germans Highest average IQ In The World: 107
« Reply #98 on: March 05, 2009, 02:39:49 PM »
it was a losing game to begin with, the soviets' strategy was to put up only sporadic resistance at the border- knowing the the blitzkrieging germans would crush any desperate stand at the border anyway-and instead draw them deeper and deeper into vast russian territory. the germans, already vastly outnumbered were spread thinner and thinner, supply lines got longer and longer, more time passed, weather turned bad, could not keep adequate supplys coming in,meanwhile the soviets were throwing wave after wave at their flanks and weak spots, soviets could continue moving their industy further east and out of reach, its amazing the germans held out as long as they did but barbarossa was inevitably going to fail

This strategy was not implemented by the Red Army until 1942. In 1941 they threw in everything they had and did not retreat an inch thus loosing so many men. They had no good military strategy. It wasn't until 1942 when they started to learn from their mistakes of the previous year.

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Re: Germans Highest average IQ In The World: 107
« Reply #99 on: March 05, 2009, 02:40:31 PM »
Do Germans in general believe in the holocaust ?
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