Pro-life group calls on Notre Dame to rescind Obama invite

[tu_holmes]

The two have nothing to do with one another. 

One is INNOCENT LIFE the other is not. 

Killing is killing... Pro-life people always try to rationalize it, but it's still killing.

[Cap]

Wrong.

These students are using the fact that they attend a so-called "Catholic institution" to impose their anti-choice views on abortion as a litmus test on whether someone can appear on their campus. If you are going to hide behind the Catholic banner, then you should not attend football or basketball games with a majority black team who I guarantee overwhelmingly support President Obama and his policies, including a woman's right to choose.

Do you honestly think any of those athletes voted for him based on his policies?  I ask because all of the ones I worked with in college could not put together a coherent thought about why they would vote for him.  I think most athletes, male or female, support abortion because they will likely be paying for one in college at some point.

Killing is killing... Pro-life people always try to rationalize it, but it's still killing.

Tell that to the liberals who would rather kill innocent children rather than waterboard Haji to extract information or try to rehab stone killers.  It's a joke that anyone supports abortion over the death penalty.

[Straw Man]

The graduation isn't about abortion.  The protest is about abortion.  There are protests by many about a commencement speaker at the nation's leading Catholic university with abortion views that are antithetical to the Catholic church's stance on abortion. 

so they want to turn their graduation into an opportunity to protest?

I say fine.  I'm sure no one will miss them and actually it would be better if they were not there.

Good riddance

[Dos Equis]

Killing is killing... Pro-life people always try to rationalize it, but it's still killing.

No it isn't.  All killing isn't murder.  Night and day. 

[Dos Equis]

so they want to turn their graduation into an opportunity to protest?

I say fine.  I'm sure no one will miss them and actually it would be better if they were not there.

Good riddance

Good riddance from where?  Their school?  They're leaving anyway. 

And they're not the only ones complaining/protesting.  Go back and look at the thread.  Objections are coming from all over the place and pretty high up the chain.   

[tu_holmes]

No it isn't.  All killing isn't murder.  Night and day. 

I didn't say murder... I said killing is killing.

The end result is a dead body.

[Cap]

I didn't say murder... I said killing is killing.

The end result is a dead body.

So then if the pieces of shit sentenced to life in jail are going to die in jail anyway, then let's just kill them.  Same result, dead body.

[Dos Equis]

I didn't say murder... I said killing is killing.

The end result is a dead body.

Maybe I don't understand what you mean.  Are you saying all killing is the same from a moral standpoint?  Legally?  Something else?

[George Whorewell]

Making my weekly trek to this board makes me believe more and more than abortion should not only be legalized but encouraged......... 

Just kidding- But barely. 

[Cap]

Making my weekly trek to this board makes me believe more and more than abortion should not only be legalized but encouraged......... 

Just kidding- But barely. 

Going to Walmart, or just about anywhere in this country nowadays, makes me believe more and more that contraception needs to be air dropped around the country.

[Straw Man]

Good riddance from where?  Their school?   They're leaving anyway. 

And they're not the only ones complaining/protesting.  Go back and look at the thread.  Objections are coming from all over the place and pretty high up the chain.   

from the commencement ceremony they are not attending

I assume that when they apply for jobs they will only work for people who share their pro-life views, the same goes with renting an apartment, buying a car, groceries, etc...

[tu_holmes]

So then if the pieces of shit sentenced to life in jail are going to die in jail anyway, then let's just kill them.  Same result, dead body.

If that's the stance you take, then you're right... I don't really take that stance.

Maybe I don't understand what you mean.  Are you saying all killing is the same from a moral standpoint?  Legally?  Something else?

No, I was quite clear in what I meant... The end result is still a dead body.

You understand, you just don't want to.

[Straw Man]

If that's the stance you take, then you're right... I don't really take that stance.
No, I was quite clear in what I meant... The end result is still a dead body.

You understand, you just don't want to.

yeah - that is a weird trait of bum and that's actually a compliment. 

I don't think he's actually as dumb as he pretends to be

[Cap]

Tu_holmes, serious respectful question.  If the unwanted babies are taking up too much space and cost too much money, how can a liberal not look at a violent criminal in the same manner.  We let worthless human beings sit in jail for 30-70 years so they can die living off our tax dollars.  Can you honestly justify that to yourself and others?  We decried against killing babies in Vietnam but abort so many in this country.  We prosecute soldiers for murder and the public wants the book thrown at them but because Leroy, or Juan or Billy Ray grew up in poverty they deserve a second chance. 

[Dos Equis]

Going to Walmart, or just about anywhere in this country nowadays, makes me believe more and more that contraception needs to be air dropped around the country.

Hey!  I'm deeply offended by your swipe at Walmart shoppers.   

[Dos Equis]

If that's the stance you take, then you're right... I don't really take that stance.
No, I was quite clear in what I meant... The end result is still a dead body.

You understand, you just don't want to.

What?  You were clear as mud.  You didn't make any sense.  The end result of killing a person in self defense and killing someone to steal their money both result in a dead body, but they're not the same from a moral standpoint or from a legal standpoint.   

[Dos Equis]

yeah - that is a weird trait of bum and that's actually a compliment. 

I don't think he's actually as dumb as he pretends to be

I don't think you're as dense as you appear.  I think it's the drugs.  But I could be wrong.   

[tu_holmes]

Tu_holmes, serious respectful question.  If the unwanted babies are taking up too much space and cost too much money, how can a liberal not look at a violent criminal in the same manner.  We let worthless human beings sit in jail for 30-70 years so they can die living off our tax dollars.  Can you honestly justify that to yourself and others?  We decried against killing babies in Vietnam but abort so many in this country.  We prosecute soldiers for murder and the public wants the book thrown at them but because Leroy, or Juan or Billy Ray grew up in poverty they deserve a second chance. 

I don't really understand why you think I'm one of these liberals you're speaking of.

I am personally a pro-life person... I have two kids after all, and I don't personally believe in Abortion, but I say that because I've never been in a position where I didn't want a child, so respectfully, I have to ask you what it is you think I'm justifying.

[tu_holmes]

What?  You were clear as mud.  You didn't make any sense.  The end result of killing a person in self defense and killing someone to steal their money both result in a dead body, but they're not the same from a moral standpoint or from a legal standpoint.  

I'm not speaking of legality or morals and you know this... I'm quite simply saying that the end result of the dead body is the same.

[Dos Equis]

I'm not speaking of legality or morals and you know this... I'm quite simply saying that the end result of the dead body is the same.

If that's your only point then my response is:  duh.  Of course killing someone results in a dead body.  You tried to tie abortion with capital punishment.  If the way you draw a parallel is the fact both result in a dead body, then yes I understand that point.  It doesn't mean anything, but I understand it. 

[Deicide]

A foetus is a parasitic organism that cannot exist independently of the female. It is not a human being and religious nonsense which has no scientific basis is useless. I would love to see all these pro-life people be forced to take care of unwanted children since they insist that a life in despair, poverty and misery is better that no life...retarded.

[Cap]

I don't really understand why you think I'm one of these liberals you're speaking of.

I am personally a pro-life person... I have two kids after all, and I don't personally believe in Abortion, but I say that because I've never been in a position where I didn't want a child, so respectfully, I have to ask you what it is you think I'm justifying.

I must have misread your post.  I'm talking about killing is killing, the end being a dead body.  I must have taken that out of concept.  I meant liberals in general, not necessarily you.

[w8tlftr]

I take it pro-lifers are against the death penalty as well? 

I am.

[Straw Man]

I don't think you're as dense as you appear.  I think it's the drugs.  But I could be wrong.   

I'm pretty healthy.  I'm not a vegan like you but I have a very healthy diet.

I don't do drugs

how about you?

for some reason I've always thought you were smarter than you appear to be on this site

maybe I was wrong

[Dos Equis]

I'm pretty healthy.  I'm not a vegan like you but I have a very healthy diet.

I don't do drugs

how about you?

for some reason I've always thought you were smarter than you appear to be on this site

maybe I was wrong

I see.  When did you stop smoking marijuana? 

The only thing I've ever admitted is that I will occassionally smoke just like I will occassionally drink some wine.