Individual rights vs. Public Order advocate

[George Whorewell]

In order to exercise your individual rights without being killed, silenced, ostracized or intimdated for doing so- You need a system of public order. Ideally, the constitution and our laws allow this. Without them, I can react to your individual right to express yourself, by exercising my individual right to stab you to death and set your house on fire. Or, I could react by firing you from your job, etc. Of course, nothing is absolute and the system can temper individual rights. This is necessary as well.

I believe that the "system" should be invoked only when necessary. In general, overreliance on the system is a bad thing. I'd probably arrange it 60%- 70% individual, 30%-40% system of public order.

[w8tlftr]

It's a no brainer. Individual rights.

In my opinion "public order" is just another term for left and right-wing fascism.

[Bindare_Dundat]

In order to exercise your individual rights without being killed, silenced, ostracized or intimdated for doing so- You need a system of public order. Ideally, the constitution and our laws allow this. Without them, I can react to your individual right to express yourself, by exercising my individual right to stab you to death and set your house on fire. Or, I could react by firing you from your job, etc. Of course, nothing is absolute and the system can temper individual rights. This is necessary as well.

I believe that the "system" should be invoked only when necessary. In general, overreliance on the system is a bad thing. I'd probably arrange it 60%- 70% individual, 30%-40% system of public order.

Thats the thing. Individual Rights doesn't mean you can do WHATEVER you want. As I already mentioned those rights come with responsibilities and respect for other peoples rights.

 I don't believe it's laws that outline public order that stop individuals from behaving like animals as much as  it's a natural  understanding that it's wrong to do so, more than anything. The overwhelming majority of people just want to be left alone and leave others alone. Groups that push public order tend to  creat conflict between other groups, not order.

[Eyeball Chambers]

Individual Rights are everything. 

Public order is just code for "Deterrent to Individual Rights".

[Bindare_Dundat]

Individual Rights are everything. 

Public order is just code for "Deterrent to Individual Rights".

LOL @ the "artist formerly known as Ron Paul Fan".

[Soul Crusher]

Thats the thing. Individual Rights doesn't mean you can do WHATEVER you want. As I already mentioned those rights come with responsibilities and respect for other peoples rights.

 I don't believe it's laws that outline public order that stop individuals from behaving like animals as much as  it's a natural  understanding that it's wrong to do so, more than anything. The overwhelming majority of people just want to be left alone and leave others alone. Groups that push public order tend to  creat conflict between other groups, not order.

The founders of this country knew, and even said, that our constitution will only work for moral people so that there is not the need to have excessive control over two legged animals like those in Oakland, CA. 

[Eyeball Chambers]

LOL @ the "artist formerly known as Ron Paul Fan".

HAHA 

[Dos Equis]

In order to exercise your individual rights without being killed, silenced, ostracized or intimdated for doing so- You need a system of public order. Ideally, the constitution and our laws allow this. Without them, I can react to your individual right to express yourself, by exercising my individual right to stab you to death and set your house on fire. Or, I could react by firing you from your job, etc. Of course, nothing is absolute and the system can temper individual rights. This is necessary as well.

I believe that the "system" should be invoked only when necessary. In general, overreliance on the system is a bad thing. I'd probably arrange it 60%- 70% individual, 30%-40% system of public order.

Well said George.  I completely agree with this.