Lower %bodyfat as natural u got? (and how long)

[Seijuro]

I really can't understand the fascination with numbers/percentages. The numbers are inaccurate, if I were to get calipered today by two different people the margin of difference could be out as far as 4% (I've seen this first hand).

BTW Jonno. Mate you look unreal 365 days a year.

Just to talk about... Of course mirrow rules

[Seijuro]

I'm guessing around 5-6%, but I am not really sure.  Maintained this conditioning for about a 4-6 weeks. 








My weight was between 175 - 180 lbs in the above pics.  I maintained that conditioning for about 1-2 months before a show.  Below is a pic "before" I cut down that year.  I weighed around 215 lbs in the pic below and im 5'9.  i was carrying a lot of bodyfat.




hoping to get big this year and do another diet to achieve the same conditioning as the pics above. 

I think lowest in these pics could be 10%

[Seijuro]

i have a christmas tree in my back in the first pic and im not even flexing or pulling my arms back... i think i was a good bit lower than 10%...

I don't think so, it seams to be quite fat inside (visceral, inside muscle, between muscle fascias...  I think u are natural, so under 10% u should be slender. Anyway, good work!

[RamJam]

those "electric hand things" are not very accurate...sorry for using such technological terms for those who dont know what simply huge is talking about.

[Seijuro]

hmmm... im not saying i was competition shape, but i htink was under 10% pretty easily.  i had my bodyfat checked at the time, but I dont know how accurate those electronic hand things are...

hehe! I think u are around 9-10% Hope to post some pics in few days with 5%

[Seijuro]

I got 6% just for 3 days a couple of times...  So hard to be there, i was 71kg with 1'75m. Also, how u diet? I tried many things always with no carbs, just salad and protein... I've seen that when I take few protein (60gr per day), I'm like dead, of course I go down fast but also pathetic fast recovery to soft fat

Now I see I was more than 6%. And the fast recovery was "water recovery". I'm going down now, 72kg again (and now with good hidratation), and I see I have to go to 62kg, THEN it will be really around 6%. How easy to think I'm so lean when the fat is inside and muscle is like full of everything (fat, water...), I can see abds and stuff like that, but it means nothing, I have lots of fat still. June the first I post pics.

[Seijuro]

get your lean body mass checked before you start the diet...

then do a calculation to get what weight you need to be at to hit 5% with that lean body mass.  this assumes you lose no muscle along the way, but is still a good way to set your goal weight.

Body needs around 1gr of protein per kg of lean body mass, little bit more maybe if there is training... So anyway I won't lose many grams of muscle, I think what happens is that when someone get really lean, he loses lots of "plasma", so water, glycogen, fat from inside... Also interesting to see that I can lift same maximum weight, and I feel much more coordination.