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« Reply #6975 on: September 25, 2013, 04:59:17 PM » |
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Dips...not the biggest fan after two people tore their pecs within weeks of each other while dipping.
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« Reply #6976 on: September 25, 2013, 06:59:47 PM » |
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They were probably not using good form bouncing etc., dips one of the best exercises if done in good form.
Haven't missed them. But since we've been talking about them, I'll probably do them next chest day.  |
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« Reply #6977 on: September 25, 2013, 07:19:46 PM » |
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Since starting on GB, always suggest dip's (in one form or another) as a better upper mass builder than the BB or DB bench press. Just as another of my favorites is the bent arm pullover for upper body mass. If one has a too wide a grip or tends to drop to the extreme stretch/bottom on a dip, that may encourage a injury problem. Also bouncing at that bottom position. Just have to apply caution in the way the exercise is done. That holds true for any exercise. Either with only bwt or added weight, if not performing dips correctly, injury could occur. The bench press seems to invite injury for a lot of folks, with dips...not so much.
A "V" bar offers an excellent choice of grip/hand spacing positions, rather than the average dip station/parallel bars, for hitting the upper body. Can experiment with different hand grips; knuckles facing out, forward or even inward. But use caution, a first, if a hand position just does not feel right for you than don't use it. Can even hit the total pec's (lower/upper) using the "V" bar, with certain hand positions. . Might do a search on Gironda and his dip training methods.
One of the better triceps mass exercises is having the elbows tight against the body and the body held in a 180 degree position, as dips are preformed. Have a training partner keeping the body almost straight up during the exercise.
Anywhere from 100 to 150lbs seem about what stronger men use in a normal dip workout. Though most can get good results with much less than that. Gymnast use bwt and also weighted vest in training. The old time BB'er Marvin Eder was the king of dips, 400+ officially recorded at one time. Might try 10X10's or 8X8's as a only movement for the chest in a workout, might surprise yourself with the results. Good Luck.
Side Bar: the secret is out, strands/springs/cables are the secret to Montague's success.
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« Reply #6978 on: September 25, 2013, 07:26:05 PM » |
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Haven't missed them. But since we've been talking about them, I'll probably do them next chest day. you better damnit! bench |
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« Reply #6979 on: September 25, 2013, 08:06:31 PM » |
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you better damnit!
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« Reply #6980 on: September 25, 2013, 08:42:26 PM » |
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I'll be all OCD about them now. im gonna do them for the first time in 3 months tomorrow.....ran for the first time in 3 months yesterday.....good to be getting back in it! bench |
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« Reply #6981 on: September 26, 2013, 02:05:57 AM » |
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Side Bar: the secret is out, strands/springs/cables are the secret to Montague's success.  I see you caught my monthly post on the Training board. Stay tuned for more! |
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« Reply #6982 on: September 26, 2013, 05:36:08 AM » |
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Just 40 minutes morning cardio today...
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« Reply #6983 on: September 26, 2013, 04:27:41 PM » |
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Rack Pulls
DB Rows
Pulldowns
Rope Rows
DB Curls
Cable Curls
Preacher Curls
Row intervals
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« Reply #6984 on: September 26, 2013, 04:32:48 PM » |
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Rack Pulls
DB Rows
Pulldowns
Rope Rows
DB Curls
Cable Curls
Preacher Curls
Row intervals
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« Reply #6985 on: September 26, 2013, 05:02:25 PM » |
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Where do you typically set the pins for rack deads?
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« Reply #6986 on: September 26, 2013, 05:07:23 PM » |
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Defranco shoulder shocker burns like crazy.
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« Reply #6987 on: September 26, 2013, 05:14:24 PM » |
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Just below the kneecap.
That's where I typically do them. I feel that's the closest point to where my back would take over the workload from my legs when doing a full range deadlift. |
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« Reply #6988 on: September 27, 2013, 03:01:40 AM » |
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defranco shoulder shocker How long have you been using it, and how often? |
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« Reply #6989 on: September 27, 2013, 06:49:57 AM » |
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Db shoulder press
Shoulder press machine
Front raises
Side raises
Reverse peck fly machine
Db shrugs
Barbell shrugs
Plus 40 minutes morning cardio.
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« Reply #6990 on: September 27, 2013, 07:38:04 AM » |
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yesterday
5/3/1 flat bench
defranco shoulder shocker
incline ez bar extensions
and some curls
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squats maybe?
bench
I know I could Google it, but explanation is always more effective- what is the DeFranco shoulder shocker? Whatever it is, it sounds like I need it. |
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« Reply #6991 on: September 27, 2013, 07:58:50 AM » |
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I know I could Google it, but explanation is always more effective- what is the DeFranco shoulder shocker? Whatever it is, it sounds like I need it.
Elimination of all overhead pressing. Train chest like a power lifter (explosive/powerful), train upper back like a bodybuilder (gay/homo) 2-3 Giant sets after chest/back work: Seated front plate raise x 10-12 Side lateral with light dumbbells 8-12 Strict seated clean an press with same db 8-12 |
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« Reply #6992 on: September 27, 2013, 08:09:37 AM » |
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Elimination of all overhead pressing. Train chest like a power lifter (explosive/powerful), train upper back like a bodybuilder (gay/homo) 2-3 Giant sets after chest/back work: Seated front plate raise x 10-12 Side lateral with light dumbbells 8-12 Strict seated clean an press with same db 8-12 Looks like he also did some shrugs...how many sets? |
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« Reply #6993 on: September 27, 2013, 09:18:20 AM » |
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Looks like he also did some shrugs...how many sets?
That's the clean and press. 2-3 Giant sets after chest/back work:
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« Reply #6994 on: September 27, 2013, 09:19:51 AM » |
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20 x 10 burpees
5 Pull ups
20 Pushups
50 Flutter Kicks
10 Sit ups
30 Minutes - Stairmaster on intense level.
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« Reply #6995 on: September 27, 2013, 10:40:50 AM » |
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20 x 10 burpees
5 Pull ups
20 Pushups
50 Flutter Kicks
10 Sit ups
20 sets of this? My goodness.... |
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« Reply #6996 on: September 27, 2013, 10:41:52 AM » |
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20 sets of this? My goodness....
Little to no rest whatsoever other than towel to wipe away sweat and a little water. Did it in 40 minutes last night. |
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« Reply #6997 on: September 27, 2013, 10:56:16 AM » |
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Rack Pulls
DB Rows
Pulldowns
Rope Rows
DB Curls
Cable Curls
Preacher Curls
Row intervals
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« Reply #6998 on: September 27, 2013, 04:16:40 PM » |
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Fat Bar Military Press
DB Side Lat Seated/Standing
Rear Delts
Upright Rows
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« Reply #6999 on: September 27, 2013, 04:39:31 PM » |
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Fat Bar Military Press
DB Side Lat Seated/Standing
Rear Delts
Upright Rows
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