Author Topic: If swine flu becomes big, like the common flu, how will your bbing change.  (Read 2460 times)

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Unlike regular flu, this flu kills the young and healthy, not the elderly and sick.  It does this because of the body's inflamation response to this particular strain.  In other words, having a strong immune system works against you with this one.  In that, this is very much like the "Spanish Flu" of 1918-19, in which 50 million died worldwide. 

If you're not scared, you either don't have a full understanding of the situation, or you're just plain stupid.

Yes I'm not denying that it could potentially be dangerous but so can a lot of other things as well. I think it's stupid to rile yourself up over this until there's really something to worry about. So far the casualties are minuscule and I'm probably 100x more likely to be killed by lightning.
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Hydrogen peroxide my ass.

H2O is water.  add another atom of O and you get H2O2, hydrogen peroxide.

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LOL. My first Google hit was a Chemistry response debunking your 'product.' Enjoy.  ;D

Unless you have gills, it's just an expensive burp!

Oxygenated water (also known as "superoxygenated" water) is offered at hundreds of Web sites. I highly recommend it if you happen to be a fish, but if you have lungs that breathe air, then forget about it! All  water that has been exposed to the air is "oxygenated" to a small extent— about 8 milligrams of O2 per liter of water at room temperature— and this can be increased by pressurizing the water with oxygen gas; each additional atmosphere of oxygen pressure pumps an additional 40 mg into each liter. But what happens when you open the bottle? That's right, the extra oxygen goes right back out— but not immediately, so by drinking oxygenated water, you can still take a bit more oxygen into your stomach. But can any oxygen molecules that don't get burped back out actually find their way into your bloodstream through absorption in the stomach or intestine? I very much doubt it; the lungs are exquisitely adapted to this function, while your digestive system is specialized for absorbing other nutrients. Suppose, instead, that you simply breathe in an extra liter of air (much easier to do than drinking a liter of water!) It's an easy chemistry students' calculation to show that you will be inhaling about 146 mg of oxygen in this way. Not all of it will enter your bloodstream, but you can always take an extra breath; it's free!

These products seem to be pitched especially at the sports community, always on the lookout for that thin advantage that can make all the difference. There is no credible evidence that it does, as the following articles mention:

    * Superoxygenated water is latest sports scam
    * Oxygenated water: Fad and fiction in one expensive burp
    * Oxygen is good—even when it's not there;

I was trying to make a point my friend that there is oxygenated water available, since you were being a smart ass and trying to
say that I was unaware that H20 has oxygen.  Simple as that.  So go eat a banana mr chimps and calm down already.
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The "swine" flu is no worse than a regular flu so get over it. As a matter of fact it's not even as bad as the regular type yearly flu.

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H2O is water.  add another atom of O and you get H2O2, hydrogen peroxide.

I didn't read you're other post fully.
If that is true I stand corrected.
I'm not a chemist.
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I didn't read you're other post fully.
If that is true I stand corrected.
I'm not a chemist.

apparently you have not graduated grade 7 chemistry either  :D

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Nothing change.

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Nothing change.

x2. This isn't the 1800s or early 1900s where Doctors have no clue what's going on. I'm still going back to the gym next week (after finals) and I'm gonna do the same thing I always have. The thing I expect is a huge advancement in medical research within the next couple of weeks.

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I seriously can't believe people are so scared. There's plenty of other diseases out there that can actually affect you but you don't panic over them, do you?. Why go batshit over some dead mexicans?
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I seriously can't believe people are so scared. There's plenty of other diseases out there that can actually affect you but you don't panic over them. Why go batshit over some dead mexicans?


Same with terrorism. The chance of it affecting you = extremely small compared to the other dangers out there. (But the indirect effect terrorism can have on the economy and such = another thing).

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I seriously can't believe people are so scared. There's plenty of other diseases out there that can actually affect you but you don't panic over them, do you?. Why go batshit over some dead mexicans?

yea. I'm a lot more scared of cancer than I am of this flu thing.

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Same with terrorism. The chance of it affecting you = extremely small compared to the other dangers out there. (But the indirect effect terrorism can have on the economy and such = another thing).

Yeah QFT. More people die every year of a simple cold than in the WTC attacks. It's all relative and never forget that folks.
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I seriously can't believe people are so scared. There's plenty of other diseases out there that can actually affect you but you don't panic over them, do you?. Why go batshit over some dead mexicans?

The World Health Organization Just classified this as a 5 on a scale of 6.  It says that a Pandemic in 2 countries that contribute to the
or are a part of the WHO will imminently be hit on a massive scale.
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The World Health Organization Just classified this as a 5 on a scale of 6.  It says that a Pandemic in 2 countries that contribute to the
or are a part of the WHO will imminently be hit on a massive scale.

Sounds a bit unsettling for sure but I'm curios as to how they come to these type of conclusions so quickly?
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Bird flu (H5N1) is a particularly deadly strain of flu that could have turned into a pandemic, if not for the hard work of government health ministries and scientists.    If we're not careful, it still could.

Its like Y2K.   All this hype prior to New Years day 2000, then nothing.  That doesn't mean that it wasn't a real problem.  It means that we computer programmers worked out butts off fixing the problem before that very real deadline.

Thanks for saving the world  ::)

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Bird flu (H5N1) is a particularly deadly strain of flu that could have turned into a pandemic, if not for the hard work of government health ministries and scientists.    If we're not careful, it still could.

Not true. There is nothing presently that has been done nor can be done to prevent a H5N1 derived strain leading to a pandemic. All that could be done would be measures to minimize the rate and extent of spead, and basically give as many people as possible anti-virals. It just happens to be that at this point in time the H5N1 has not evolved in a direction that enables efficiently spread between humans. This could eventually occur by genetic drift (chance), which does happen somewhat quickly in viruses. More likely though is antigenic shift driven by RNA re-assortment with another Influenza  virus, and could occur in a host infected by both, whereby those parts of the viral genome that encode antigenic proteins are derived from a human strain, and other parts that play a role in virulence come from H5N1. History suggests that this will occur again, fortunately it seems to be a rare event.

The swine flu, A H1N1, is not particularly virulent in its current form, though co-infections in people with another Influenza A virus could potentially change that. Or might not.

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THE SWINE PLAGUE COMMETH!
It'll never fill the Iceman's shoes.

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It'll never fill the Iceman's shoes.

Iceman got fat.  :(


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x2. This isn't the 1800s or early 1900s where Doctors have no clue what's going on. I'm still going back to the gym next week (after finals) and I'm gonna do the same thing I always have. The thing I expect is a huge advancement in medical research within the next couple of weeks.
even if there is no possibility to survive and we are going to be terminated, i will die with doing what i like to do.
So whats the difference?

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even if there is no possibility to survive and we are going to be terminated, i will die with doing what i like to do.
So whats the difference?
Just take some antibacterial  in you're pocket.  Swine's already hit my state yesterday.
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