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Re: how many carbs should you eat while dieting?
« Reply #25 on: May 02, 2009, 06:10:18 PM »
I hear that Dave.

Dave, post up the study that shows carbs are needed; that muscle growth isnt regulated independently via quite separate kinase pathways unrelated to carb consumption.

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Re: how many carbs should you eat while dieting?
« Reply #26 on: May 02, 2009, 06:22:01 PM »
hahahahahhaahha


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get the fuck out of here mr. wanna-be scott connnely

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I was gonna say the same thing when I read "kinase pathways"

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Re: how many carbs should you eat while dieting?
« Reply #27 on: May 03, 2009, 10:53:26 AM »
To answer the OP question: between 100-200g carbs a day
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Re: how many carbs should you eat while dieting?
« Reply #28 on: May 03, 2009, 10:59:29 AM »
No problem going up to around 400grams of carbs per day on a fatburning diet at around 2800 - 3000 cal/day (which = no more than about 57,14% of calories from carbs at 2800 cal/day). This leaves plenty of room for protein and fats. Works wonders for losing about 1 - 1,4 pounds per week.
This might not work optimally for everybody, but Debussey "has heard" that it works very well for long term dieting for many 8)

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Re: how many carbs should you eat while dieting?
« Reply #29 on: May 03, 2009, 11:01:56 AM »
In the past I have done zero carb with just meat and fish...I have never dropped weight like that but after a few weeks it gets old. It's just in your head. You don't need carbs.


Your body defiantly needs some form of carbs.....

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Re: how many carbs should you eat while dieting?
« Reply #30 on: May 03, 2009, 11:05:34 AM »
ive heard that if you have carbs in your system cardio burns the carbs before it burns any fat,

It depends more on the levels on insulin in your body not the amount of carbs. Keep your diet somewhat low GI and there's nothing to worry about.
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Re: how many carbs should you eat while dieting?
« Reply #31 on: May 03, 2009, 11:22:06 AM »
insulin is released in response to all carbs (except veggies). even so caqlled "good carbs" like oatmeal, brown ricee, whole wheat bread, sweet potatoe...etc.   they all still make your body release insulin.

when insulin is present in the body at levels above what is normal, your body doesnt burn fat.

BUT the amount of time insulin is released in response to a meal is nto that long. so eating carbs doesnt mean your body doesnt burn fat, because eatign carbs doesnt mean insulin is raised all day.


high glycemic, faster digesting carbs would be superior to slower digesting carbs when dieting, beause the faster a carb digests, the higher it gets insulin, the quicker the carbs are stuffed into muscle, and the faster insulin levels fall back down to a level where fat loss is possible. not only that, but fast carbs cause such a high raise in insulin, the it causes a touch of hypoglycemia....which means you get a consequential big fall in insulin, down below what is normally ..which causes a a big gh release and lots of fat loss.


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Re: how many carbs should you eat while dieting?
« Reply #32 on: May 03, 2009, 11:31:06 AM »
how many carbs depends on how much protein and fat.. total caloric intake is what matters.

try 2500 kcal and if you dont drop weight on that cut it down to 2000.

trial and error no one knows exactly what works for you..

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Re: how many carbs should you eat while dieting?
« Reply #33 on: May 03, 2009, 11:33:49 AM »
No problem going up to around 400grams of carbs per day on a fatburning diet at around 2800 - 3000 cal/day (which = no more than about 57,14% of calories from carbs at 2800 cal/day). This leaves plenty of room for protein and fats. Works wonders for losing about 1 - 1,4 pounds per week.
This might not work optimally for everybody, but Debussey "has heard" that it works very well for long term dieting for many 8)

How ripped have you heard can someone get on such a diet and at what height and weight, theoretically speaking?

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Re: how many carbs should you eat while dieting?
« Reply #34 on: May 03, 2009, 11:36:05 AM »
How ripped have you heard can someone get on such a diet and at what height and weight, theoretically speaking?
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Re: how many carbs should you eat while dieting?
« Reply #35 on: May 03, 2009, 11:36:48 AM »
How ripped have you heard can someone get on such a diet and at what height and weight, theoretically speaking?


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Re: how many carbs should you eat while dieting?
« Reply #36 on: May 03, 2009, 11:47:29 AM »
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Re: how many carbs should you eat while dieting?
« Reply #37 on: May 03, 2009, 11:50:21 AM »

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Re: how many carbs should you eat while dieting?
« Reply #38 on: May 03, 2009, 11:53:53 AM »
dude i'm telling you just run 1.5-2 miles on your off days and keep your carbs the same as before and the weight and bodyfat comes off, i'm down 15 pounds since starting it with the only bodypart coming down in size being the stomach.
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Re: how many carbs should you eat while dieting?
« Reply #39 on: May 03, 2009, 11:54:59 AM »
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Would you say that the only way to get ripped is by eating junk food?
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Re: how many carbs should you eat while dieting?
« Reply #40 on: May 03, 2009, 11:55:53 AM »
Would you say that the only way to get ripped is by eating junk food?

of course not :)

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Re: how many carbs should you eat while dieting?
« Reply #41 on: May 03, 2009, 11:57:26 AM »
insulin is released in response to all carbs (except veggies). even so caqlled "good carbs" like oatmeal, brown ricee, whole wheat bread, sweet potatoe...etc.   they all still make your body release insulin.

when insulin is present in the body at levels above what is normal, your body doesnt burn fat.

BUT the amount of time insulin is released in response to a meal is nto that long. so eating carbs doesnt mean your body doesnt burn fat, because eatign carbs doesnt mean insulin is raised all day.


high glycemic, faster digesting carbs would be superior to slower digesting carbs when dieting, beause the faster a carb digests, the higher it gets insulin, the quicker the carbs are stuffed into muscle, and the faster insulin levels fall back down to a level where fat loss is possible. not only that, but fast carbs cause such a high raise in insulin, the it causes a touch of hypoglycemia....which means you get a consequential big fall in insulin, down below what is normally ..which causes a a big gh release and lots of fat loss.



nonsense, fast or slow carbs, high fat, low fat - none of which matters.

the only thing that matters is calories and protein intake.
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Re: how many carbs should you eat while dieting?
« Reply #42 on: May 03, 2009, 12:01:12 PM »
nonsense, fast or slow carbs, high fat, low fat - none of which matters.

the only thing that matters is calories and protein intake.
different diets can achieve different results.

on paper every diet works

in the real world certai diets work better than others

even with equal calories and protien intake


and it depends from person to person


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Re: how many carbs should you eat while dieting?
« Reply #43 on: May 03, 2009, 12:03:19 PM »
different diets can achieve different results.

on paper every diet works

in the real world certai diets work better than others

even with equal calories and protien intake


and it depends from person to person

explain why "on paper" is different from "real world" please. :)

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Re: how many carbs should you eat while dieting?
« Reply #44 on: May 03, 2009, 12:05:12 PM »
explain why "on paper" is different from "real world" please. :)

It doesn't depend on the individual?
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Re: how many carbs should you eat while dieting?
« Reply #45 on: May 03, 2009, 12:06:33 PM »
If you are doing a keto diet keep it under 20-30 to be safe.  Closer to zero is best. 

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Re: how many carbs should you eat while dieting?
« Reply #46 on: May 03, 2009, 12:07:01 PM »
nonsense, fast or slow carbs, high fat, low fat - none of which matters.

the only thing that matters is calories and protein intake.

True - I would say get your cardio sorted before you start dropping food/carbs from your diet. Let the cardio do the fat burning for you.

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Re: how many carbs should you eat while dieting?
« Reply #47 on: May 03, 2009, 12:08:16 PM »
explain why "on paper" is different from "real world" please. :)
on paper... zero fat high carb and zero carb high fat...both work pretty much evenly..

however in the real world zero carb gets faster fat loss....zero fat keeps muscles fuller...

at least with me


also on paper .... al those supplements you say are worthless... well there are tons of papers, peer reviewed studies and such, t prove that alot of those supplements are actually benefical.   ;)   but in the real world most of the time the benefits turn out to be too small to even be noticeable.

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Re: how many carbs should you eat while dieting?
« Reply #48 on: May 03, 2009, 12:08:46 PM »
It doesn't depend on the individual?

That was his second argument, I was asking about the first one.
There will be exceptions to the rules of course and fine tuning is always possible.

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Re: how many carbs should you eat while dieting?
« Reply #49 on: May 03, 2009, 12:09:05 PM »
different diets can achieve different results.

on paper every diet works

in the real world certai diets work better than others

even with equal calories and protien intake


and it depends from person to person



the difference in physiques between high fat/low card and high carb/low fat is around a single pound of difference in muscle mass over 4 months.

if you hate eating one way - who cares if that is the only difference in physiques at the end of 4 months of dieting  ???

studies prove this  8)

also you are stronger with more carbs. so carbs for the win imo.
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