Bristol Palin says abstinence best path for teens

[Dos Equis]

Good for her.  Good message. 

Bristol Palin says abstinence best path for teens
Associated Press

NEW YORK (AP) — Unwed mother Bristol Palin said Wednesday that abstinence is a realistic way for teens to avoid unwanted pregnancy — a view not shared by the father of her infant son.

Palin, the 19-year old daughter of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, told ABC's "Good Morning America" that she wishes she'd waited to have sex.

Bristol Palin was in New York Wednesday to help promote National Teen Pregnancy Awareness Day.

In the interview, Palin said abstinence is the safest and best choice for teens.

"Regardless of what I did personally, I just think that abstinence is the only way you can effectively, 100% foolproof way you can prevent pregnancy," she said.

But Levi Johnston, Palin's former fiance and the father of her 4-month old baby, Tripp, said abstinence is "not realistic" for young people. He said sexually active teens need to learn about contraception as well.

"Abstinence is a great idea," Johnston told "CBS This Morning" in an interview. "But I also think you need to enforce, you know, condoms and birth control and other things like that to have safe sex. I don't just think telling young kids, 'You can't have sex,' it's not going to work."

Johnston said he and Palin had used condoms but occasionally had slipped up. That's how Tripp was conceived, Johnston said.

Palin said Tripp is getting chubby and is starting to giggle. She called him "the love of my life," but said she wished she could have had him later in life.

Sarah Palin announced her daughter's pregnancy on Sept. 1, days after Sen. John McCain picked her to be his Republican vice presidential running mate.

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[240 is Back]

is this the same chick who said on FOX just 3 weeks ago that abstinence was unrealistic?


Sounds like she's reading her note cards for this speech, but was speaking frankly and honestly during that interview.

[BigNBloated]

LOL of course. It's the best path for anyone who doesn't want a kid but very difficult to follow. Considering every guy in his teens is trying to get laid and girls aren't void of these urges they should definitely come in with a strong Condoms are number 2.

[Dos Equis]

Johnston sums up what I've maintained about the condoms, etc. argument for years:  

"Johnston said he and Palin had used condoms but occasionally had slipped up. That's how Tripp was conceived, Johnston said."

Doesn't work, because kids won't use them consistently.  

[BigNBloated]

Thats obvious beach. Safe sex in exclusive relationships is what should be taught. We teach all this bad shit about sex but no one is teaching people about how to maintain intimate relationships. It's all, DONT DO IT YOU'LL GET DISEASES OR PREGNANT.  I do agree that abstinence is the BEST way to do it because its 100% effective but will most likely only work amongst those with religious motives.

[Dos Equis]

Thats obvious beach. Safe sex in exclusive relationships is what should be taught. We teach all this bad shit about sex but no one is teaching people about how to maintain intimate relationships. It's all, DONT DO IT YOU'LL GET DISEASES OR PREGNANT.  I do agree that abstinence is the BEST way to do it because its 100% effective but will most likely only work amongst those with religious motives.

I pretty much agree.  Definitely easier to teach abstinence from a religious point of view. 

That said, my objection to giving condoms to kids isn't religious based.  I have a fundamental problem with sending mixed messages to kids:  don't have sex, but here's a condom you won't really use in case you do.  The fact is kids are not prepared to have sex and definitely not ready for the consequences of sex, which can include a baby. 

I know the reality is that some kids will still do it, but that doesn't change the fact they're not ready, it would be a mistake, etc.  Doesn't (or at least shouldn't) change the message. 

[240 is Back]

but occasionally had slipped up.

Bullshit.  They were irresponsible idiots.

You don't "slip up".  You choose to stick it in without a condom.  Given the amount of liquor bottle bags hanging from her wall in her pics, I'm guessing alcohol helped out in that decision making process.

Don't blame the condoms.  blame idiot 16 year olds who got drunk and had sex without them.

And if the pics were up on myspace and the parent didn't stop the drinking, and if the parent was allowing sleepovers, then they are at fault too.

[Mr. Magoo]

knowledge is the best path.

[LurkerNoMore]

I wonder what her "view" will change to in another few weeks.

[MCWAY]

Bullshit.  They were irresponsible idiots.

You don't "slip up".  You choose to stick it in without a condom.  Given the amount of liquor bottle bags hanging from her wall in her pics, I'm guessing alcohol helped out in that decision making process.

Don't blame the condoms.  blame idiot 16 year olds who got drunk and had sex without them.

And if the pics were up on myspace and the parent didn't stop the drinking, and if the parent was allowing sleepovers, then they are at fault too.

He's not blaiming the condoms. Plus, Beach Bum was quoting Levi Johnston.

Thats obvious beach. Safe sex in exclusive relationships is what should be taught. We teach all this bad shit about sex but no one is teaching people about how to maintain intimate relationships. It's all, DONT DO IT YOU'LL GET DISEASES OR PREGNANT.......

That's because Johnston and Palin did it and (surprise, SURPRISE) Palin got pregnant. Sex is how we make babies, here.

You're right about safe sex in exclusive relationships. And, from religious point of view, the gold standard (the ultimate example) is sex within the confines of marriage.

[Eyeball Chambers]

At first I thought it said "Bristol Palin says Absinthe best path for teens".

 

[bears]

it really is a tough issue.  im with beach bum on the condom thing.  the sad fact is that all 13-17 year olds are idiots.  i know i was.  so give them rubbers and hope to God they use them.  but then they will inevitably find out that condoms suck.  and they will not use them. 

but condoms work better with lube.  makes it more enjoyable for both parties involved.  it makes using condoms tolerable in my and my wifes opinion.  so now you give them lube.  but now you're the parent sending their 15 year old daughter out on a friday night with a bunch of rubbers and a huge jar of lube.   just tell her not to have sex.  how do you feel about that?

FYI im half kidding around with this post.  i have a young son and i am dreading the talks that i will have to have with him.

[Dos Equis]

it really is a tough issue.  im with beach bum on the condom thing.  the sad fact is that all 13-17 year olds are idiots.  i know i was.  so give them rubbers and hope to God they use them.  but then they will inevitably find out that condoms suck.  and they will not use them. 

but condoms work better with lube.  makes it more enjoyable for both parties involved.  it makes using condoms tolerable in my and my wifes opinion.  so now you give them lube.  but now you're the parent sending their 15 year old daughter out on a friday night with a bunch of rubbers and a huge jar of lube.   just tell her not to have sex.  how do you feel about that?

FYI im half kidding around with this post.  i have a young son and i am dreading the talks that i will have to have with him.

lol.  I agree with you bears.  Once kids experience sex with and without a condom, they will probably never go back.  Your comments about sending the kids out with condoms and lube is really funny.    

I've had the birds and bees talk with my kids.  During the last talk it was actually really funny to see the "oh so that's what the means" look on my little one's face.   

We have a tough road with our respective sons.  There is an enormous amount of pressure to have sex as a kid.  In many circles, you either have to do it, or lie about doing it.  Peer pressure is a real pain.   

If you haven't started the sex talk with your son (and it has to be an ongoing dialog), I'd recommend this book:  http://www.amazon.com/Talk-Child-About-Step-Step/dp/1582380570/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1241648123&sr=8-1

It even has a script.   

[24KT]

Bristol Palin says abstinence best path for teens
Associated Press

NEW YORK (AP) — Unwed mother Bristol Palin said Wednesday that abstinence is a realistic way for teens to avoid unwanted pregnancy

                                                                                                                                           

[Straw Man]

Johnston sums up what I've maintained about the condoms, etc. argument for years:  

"Johnston said he and Palin had used condoms but occasionally had slipped up. That's how Tripp was conceived, Johnston said."

Doesn't work, because kids won't use them consistently.  

sounds like they were having regular sex

I wonder how the daughter got on the pill without the parents consent (surely Palin didn't consent because they would mean she knew they were having sex

even more irrefutable proof that abstinence doesn't work.

[Dos Equis]

They were using condoms.  Even more proof that condoms don't work. 

[2ND COMING]

how dumbed down must you be to post this.

this is like benny blanco posting quotes of obama saying wall street was running wild. NO FUCK.

[Hugo Chavez]

wow, what a bunch of ignorant opinions.  Hey, I got a great idea.  teach your kids abstinence from a "religious point of view" then just let them run around and do whatever they want whenever they want with who whoever they want.  quickly make breakfast for them then you only have to see them at dinner for a short time then they're off to "study" with their classmates and they'll be back by 8:00   Oh don't worry, they're really taking Church serious on Sunday, you're sure of this

Ignorant, ignorant delusional, ignorant ignorant...

[Dos Equis]

Or maybe send your 13 or 14-year old to Planned Parenthood, give them condoms and the pill, a few magazines, some lube (bears . . . lol  ), a couple porno movies, and turn them loose.   

[Straw Man]

They were using condoms.  Even more proof that condoms don't work. 

nonsense, that's like saying not using a seatbelt is proof that seatbelts don't work.

What's funny is how a teenager who was both on the pill (Sarah approved no doubut) and also using condoms has the temerity to preach abstinence.  

Isn't this the same girl who said abstinence was not realistic or something like that?

[Hugo Chavez]

Or maybe send your 13 or 14-year old to Planned Parenthood, give them condoms and the pill, a few magazines, some lube (bears . . . lol  ), a couple porno movies, and turn them loose.   

did I tell you that was giving a shit?  What in what I said would indicate that?   So now you've got it pinned down because hey, you've taught them abstinence from a religious point of view and you don't turn them loose with pornos, lube and Planned Parenthood's phone number

oooh buoy... lol

[Eyeball Chambers]

Such a wholesome young lady

[Dos Equis]

nonsense, that's like saying not using a seatbelt is proof that seatbelts don't work.

What's funny is how a teenager who was both on the pill (Sarah approved no doubut) and also using condoms has the temerity to preach abstinence.  

Isn't this the same girl who said abstinence was not realistic or something like that?

No, that's like saying condoms don't work, because kids won't consistently use them, which is exactly what happened. 

This is the same girl who didn't follow her parents' advice and wound up with a baby.  She's actually in a very good position to talk to teens about the dangers of premarital sex.  She has the baby to prove it. 

[Dos Equis]

did I tell you that was giving a shit?  What in what I said would indicate that?   So now you've got it pinned down because hey, you've taught them abstinence from a religious point of view and you don't turn them loose with pornos, lube and Planned Parenthood's phone number

oooh buoy... lol

Whaa??  Have no idea what you're trying to say. 

[Hugo Chavez]

Whaa??  Have no idea what you're trying to say. 

I know you don't.