Female slaughters defenseless elephant with bow for a bet

[MindSpin]

I'm sure that there are plenty of people working in slaughterhouses who actually enjoy their work. 

Should applicants for those jobs be required to demonstrate they don't really like killing animals? 

Help me understand how it's okay to derive pleasure from inflicting fatal harm to other living creatures?

[nycbull]

Reposted from another forum (author Jaga):

I'm not sure what I hope to gain my jumping into this fracas, but as someone who's spent a lot of time in Africa involved with photographing game (I'm not a hunter of big game for the record), I think it's very easy to jump to what I believe are the wrong conclusions....

My understanding from experts on the matter is as follows:

- Countries with well run hunting concessions have outperformed their peer countries that do not allow hunting in terms of maintenance of wildlife herds.

- In most countries today there is an organized culling of the elephant population to prevent the elephants from destroying the ecosystem (the eat a lot and knock down trees to eat, and will grow uncontrolled with no predators).

- What she did was an absurdly dangerous and brave thing to do... crawling in the middle of a herd of 37 elephants and shooting at 12 yard with a bow... almost unthinkable.

- yes, it's a little cras that she did this on a "bet"...she needs better PR. But it might have been more along the lines of Vas and Casie's wager...equally dangerous and foolhardy potentially, with risk of loss of life.

OMG this is the biggest piece of bullshit I have ever read on getbig.

Animals do not overpopulate...there is no such thing you fucking moron. It is not possible, the food supply controls their population. Animals overpopulating is a myth created by Fish Game and Wildlife to sell more hunting licenses. It is a LIE, Animals DO NOT overpopulate.

ANimals DO NOT DESTROY ecosystems.. where the fuck did you go to school?..You know nothing about ecology. Yea watch out everyone there are roving gangs of animals out there destroying ecosystems and carrying knives...beware!!!.

Suggesting this selfish egocentric women needs better PR is like saying Bernard Madoff needs better PR...she is a creepy greedy selfserving careless person who took something good away from the world for her own selfish needs.

"a little crass" ??   She took something beautiful away from all of us and from future generations just to make herself happy.....She is more like a self serving c-unt!

[dr.chimps]

You guys are missing my point, so let me try to clarify.  I'm not against killing animals for their resources.  If there were no grocery stores or restaurants, I would hunt for my food.  Not because I enjoy killing another living creature, but because I would need the food, leather, etc. 

The fact that someone enjoys taking the life of another creature, simply for the fun of it, says a lot.  Regardless of how much skill it takes, it's truly wrong to derive joy from the suffering of another.

Well said. However, it is a part of our nature. Read any war journal. Blood lust is human, real.  

/20 years of humane society donations    

[lax]

She killed a elephant with a bow , bullshit she's not a hunter I don't care who lead here where , bow hunter takes skill it's no easy feat to kill a wild boar nevermind a elephant . that's like saying I can take Joe-Blow to homeplate give them a few pointers and they would crack it out of the ball park .

without your type of 'thinking'

the world would be no poorer

[NarcissisticDeity]

OMG this is the biggest piece of bullshit I have ever read on getbig.

Animals do not overpopulate...there is no such thing you fucking moron. It is not possible, the food supply controls their population. Animals overpopulating is a myth created by Fish Game and Wildlife to sell more hunting licenses. It is a LIE, Animals DO NOT overpopulate.

ANimals DO NOT DESTROY ecosystems.. where the fuck did you go to school?..You know nothing about ecology. Yea watch out everyone there are roving gangs of animals out there destroying ecosystems and carrying knives...beware!!!.

Suggesting this selfish egocentric women needs better PR is like saying Bernard Madoff needs better PR...she is a creepy greedy selfserving careless person who took something good away from the world for her own selfish needs.

"a little crass" ??   She took something beautiful away from all of us and from future generations just to make herself happy.....She is more like a self serving c-unt!

meltdown if there ever was one.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Help me understand how it's okay to derive pleasure from inflicting fatal harm to other living creatures?

Who said they derive pleasure? you keep typing this , when a hunter killed they had a celebration the tribe would survive and flourish there was cause to celebrate . she's proud she accomplished her objective and in the end the carcass didn't go to waste I bet those hungry Africans took great pleasure in eating are they wrong?

[Awesomo]

A lot of pussies lurking around getbig it appears. I would think taking pleasure in hunting an animal would be something inherent in many of us. Obviously back when we were hunter/gathers a lot of pleasure was derived from killing an animal for food, but now we need to feel bad that we killed it, but can still enjoy eating it of course 

[calfzilla]

Why should I stop posting??? Is it because I have a realistic view of the world and understand that the survival of a species is dependant upon its economic worth and you can't handle this simple truth? You can try living under a rock, but that doesn't change the fact that elephants are actually making a come back in population every since the African government changed it's policy and started allowing villages to manage their populations and share in the money generated from hunting and selling their ivory.

Meltdown. 

...And yes, I don't like alternative viewpoints.  People should always agree with me. 

[Parker]

A lot of pussies lurking around getbig it appears. I would think taking pleasure in hunting an animal would be something inherent in many of us. Obviously back when we were hunter/gathers a lot of pleasure was derived from killing an animal for food, but now we need to feel bad that we killed it, but can still enjoy eating it of course 

No, what is inherent in us is to hunt for food, taking only what we need. Not taking up a bet and killing an animal. Right now  in Western Society there is no reason to go out to another continent to kill a elephant.

Our taking pleasure in hunting animals is why the Cougar/mountain lion/Florida Panther populations have dwindled. And then the reintroduction, then the problems, same with the Wolf population. And problems with that. And now our deer population is out of wack and we have deer season because of it.  You see the fuck up reasoning of taking pleasure with killing? It creates an imbalance. 

Yes, in some cultures to prove one's manhood one must kill a lion. Only because lions are Carnivores and inspire fear in our hearts, thus conquering the fear is the main goal. Man inherently kills what he fears or does not understand. Do i agree, No I don't but I understand.

[camelisator]

Hot as hell. I would hit it in a heartbeat. A true milf-warrior.

[brooklynbruiser]

All these tough guys and white knights...so sad.

Personally, I think she's an asshole. Doesn't take mega-skills to roll up to a desensitized animal and pop 'em one in the head. So she did it with a bow and arrow. Big deal. Leaving it to suffer and bleed out overnight is a feather in her cap? It's fucked up. If she was any kind of hunter and not a simple killer, she would have offed it properly. So, people got to eat. I've a feeling they would have eaten anyway. And if they didn't, population control. Sounds like a weak excuse to cover up her need to kill something big with a bow and arrow.

So, we kill animals to avoid overpopulation and exhaustion of resources, yet we breed and consume with impunity. It's not like we're going to give up land/resources to replenish the animals and food supply and we won't be able to produce enough in continually limited space. Following this logic, the animal population will eventually perish until we're the only game in town.

[camelisator]

All these tough guys and white knights...so sad.

Personally, I think she's an asshole. Doesn't take mega-skills to roll up to a desensitized animal and pop 'em one in the head. So she did it with a bow and arrow. Big deal. Leaving it to suffer and bleed out overnight is a feather in her cap? It's fucked up. If she was any kind of hunter and not a simple killer, she would have offed it properly. So, people got to eat. I've a feeling they would have eaten anyway. And if they didn't, population control. Sounds like a weak excuse to cover up her need to kill something big with a bow and arrow.

So, we kill animals to avoid overpopulation and exhaustion of resources, yet we breed and consume with impunity. It's not like we're going to give up land/resources to replenish the animals and food supply and we won't be able to produce enough in continually limited space. Following this logic, the animal population will eventually perish until we're the only game in town.

And?

[brooklynbruiser]

And what? You're the one that took the time to read and reply.

[nycbull]

meltdown if there ever was one.

maybe maybe not 

[Tesla]

So an elephant was killed for sport in Zimbabwe, boo fucking hoo  

I could give a flying fuck about a wild animal getting slaughtered for any reason.  There are countless worse things happening every day.  

Get a sense of proportion.  The human life expectancy in Zimbabwe is about 35 years (an elephant's life expectancy is about 60 years) but I don't hear any of you pantywaists crying about that.  No wonder why Islam is taking over Europe.  

[camelisator]

OMG this is the biggest piece of bullshit I have ever read on getbig.

Animals do not overpopulate...there is no such thing you fucking moron. It is not possible, the food supply controls their population. Animals overpopulating is a myth created by Fish Game and Wildlife to sell more hunting licenses. It is a LIE, Animals DO NOT overpopulate.

ANimals DO NOT DESTROY ecosystems.. where the fuck did you go to school?..You know nothing about ecology. Yea watch out everyone there are roving gangs of animals out there destroying ecosystems and carrying knives...beware!!!.

Suggesting this selfish egocentric women needs better PR is like saying Bernard Madoff needs better PR...she is a creepy greedy selfserving careless person who took something good away from the world for her own selfish needs.

"a little crass" ??   She took something beautiful away from all of us and from future generations just to make herself happy.....She is more like a self serving c-unt!

Settle down pumpkin, hunting men (in this case women) are talking... 600 years ago you would've stayed behind with the "women" cutting yourself in the crotch to simulate menstruation and feel more like a "women"... gayer than a penile rubbing 'Kum Ba Yah' fest. 

[leadhead]

I see no harm with harvesting a elephant as long as the animal is eaten, and the post said it would feed 500. I am a avid deer hunter/bow hunter and see no harm in harvesting an animal to be eaten. Taking dangerous animals such as an elephant can't be a small feat with a bow anyway, hence not many have been harvested by bowhunters. I wouldn't ever hunt exotic game, but I see no reason to bash other hunters for their game of choice. I am very surprised alot of getbiggers are against hunting, as alot of us consume vast amounts of animal protein Some of you guys need to get out of the city and experience a one-on-one encounter with your next meal/protein source ....

Which reminds me, I think I have some venison(deer) backstraps to thaw out for tomorrow... mmmmm tasty

[nycbull]

Settle down pumpkin, hunting men (in this case women) are talking... 600 years ago you would've stayed behind with the "women" cutting yourself in the crotch to simulate menstruation and feel more like a "women"... gayer than a penile rubbing 'Kum Ba Yah' fest. 

yea listen to the these 'he men' coming out the woodwork now,,,gym bunnies who spend most of their time looking at themselves in the mirror and wondering what Affliction T shirt they are going to by next....

We are not cavemen anymore...Try evolving, it works.

[nycbull]

I see no harm with harvesting a elephant as long as the animal is eaten, and the post said it would feed 500. I am a avid deer hunter/bow hunter and see no harm in harvesting an animal to be eaten. Taking dangerous animals such as an elephant can't be a small feat with a bow anyway, hence not many have been harvested by bowhunters. I wouldn't ever hunt exotic game, but I see no reason to bash other hunters for their game of choice. I am very surprised alot of getbiggers are against hunting, as alot of us consume vast amounts of animal protein Some of you guys need to get out of the city and experience a one-on-one encounter with your next meal/protein source ....

Which reminds me, I think I have some venison(deer) backstraps to thaw out for tomorrow... mmmmm tasty

bow and arrow hunters are the biggest assholes...worst way for any animal to die with a broken bow lodged in their lung...takes the longest for them to die and most painfull...And skill? thats even more bullshit...The bow and arrows they make now a days are stainless steel killing machines...complete with every contraption to make it as easy as pulling a trigger.

[camelisator]

yea listen to the these 'he men' coming out the woodwork now,,,gym bunnies who spend most of their time looking at themselves in the mirror and wondering what Affliction T shirt they are going to by next....

We are not cavemen anymore...Try evolving, it works.

gay bunnies can do the fuck they want. I hear you like 'em explain all the above. What the fuck do you care if an animal dies by "arrow wound" or any other way? Thousands of animals die daily in slaughter houses and it's not all rosy. Are you going to stop eating meat (with the exception of the dearly man sausage of course)...?

[nycbull]

gay bunnies can do the fuck they want. I hear you like 'em explain all the above. What the fuck do you care if an animal dies by "arrow wound" or any other way? Thousands of animals die daily in slaughter houses and it's not all rosy. Are you going to stop eating meat (with the exception of the dearly man sausage of course)...?

man sausage never hurt anyone....you are right slaughter houses are way worse, so why is that an exuse to inflict even more burden on the animal kingdom...when is enough enough, how much suffering is too much? I am not against any sustainable and humane approved use of animals for food, unfortunately we dont live in a world that understands that...There are population control techniques, using birth control, that have been proven effective and can be used in many areas that are overdeveloped here and in Africa, but money and greed stop their use. 

We have evolved out of the caves many many years ago and the only reason we still exist and can claim dominion over the earth is the evolutionary mistake of compassion, compassion for strangers and for other species...it may be a mistake but it makes life on earth worth living.

All I am asking is for people to use their intelligence and compassion. 

[Bast175]

let's stick to the real issue: it's too dangerous for females to carry weapons.

[clued-up]

I'm impressed she killed one with a bow great shot.

I agree.. that bitch is fearless.

[bigmc]

I agree.. that bitch is fearless.

she is quite the hero 

[tbombz]

nycbull absolutely PWNING 'camelisator' by responding in a calm manner without resorting to personal attacks, while the idiot boy throws insults without reason to try to cover the fact his arguments are weak, just like his family name.