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Re: Schwarzenegger collects honorary degree from USC
« Reply #25 on: May 16, 2009, 07:33:26 PM »
some logic there.  that he may have been a better choice than Carter makes him one of the best presidents ever?

btw, I voted for Anderson in that election.


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Re: Schwarzenegger collects honorary degree from USC
« Reply #26 on: May 17, 2009, 04:17:03 AM »
kind of like the 70s and 80s when we had a B-movie actor and TV announcer running for governor and then president

Well... yeah, except Arnold's screen fame eclipses Bonzo boy's.  Someday people are going to roll eyes that we kept confusing celebrity with a calling to govern.

He's one of the greatest BBs of all time and I take my hat off to him for making it big in Hollywood despite his Shatneresque skills, but I still can't believe he got voted in on the heels of T3.  Not saying history will condemn Arnie, but today's average voter might be tomorrow's argument against democracy. 

On the other hand they didn't fall for the Palin act so maybe there's hope.

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Re: Schwarzenegger collects honorary degree from USC
« Reply #27 on: May 17, 2009, 04:21:07 AM »
Well... yeah, except Arnold's screen fame eclipses Bonzo boy's.  Someday people are going to roll eyes that we kept confusing celebrity with a calling to govern.

He's one of the greatest BBs of all time and I take my hat off to him for making it big in Hollywood despite his Shatneresque skills, but I still can't believe he got voted in on the heels of T3.  Not saying history will condemn Arnie, but today's average voter might be tomorrow's argument against democracy. 

On the other hand they didn't fall for the Palin act so maybe there's hope.

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Re: Schwarzenegger collects honorary degree from USC
« Reply #28 on: May 17, 2009, 04:28:46 AM »
Tax revolts starting in California, highest taxes in the USA...HE MIGHT NOT BE BACK....

He makes Predator vs Terminator and they'll vote him right back in.

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Re: Schwarzenegger collects honorary degree from USC
« Reply #29 on: May 17, 2009, 04:37:13 AM »
Maybe it's a shrewd move on USC's part to ensure continued funding in these tough times?   :D


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Re: Schwarzenegger collects honorary degree from USC
« Reply #31 on: May 18, 2009, 08:51:23 AM »
Mr Universe (when it meant something), Mr Olympia, one of the biggest action movie stars of all time, governor of California.  what do you think?

A more balanced appraisal would make it more credible; in terms of his first serious 9-5 job, he's led the cali economy into even deeper straights than it was previously in through poor choices. He won't be remembered fondly in California.

Of course his central motivation to be governor-yet more Arnold self-promo-has borne fruit. So what if it's been expensive for the state lol he'll soon be out of there and on to other projects.


Arnold’s Legacy: Driving the State Towards Bankruptcy
May. 18‚ 2009

Governor Schwarzenegger’s May “budget revise” last week – which proposed more mass layoffs, more painful cuts and more reckless borrowing – had all the makings of the end of a Shakespearean tragedy, where the protagonist has run out of options due to troubles of his own making. One could also view it as the definition of insanity – doing the same thing over again, and expecting a different result. But Arnold was never a good actor, and he’s turned out to be a worse Governor – whose mark will be leaving the state in a maddening fiscal crisis. From his first day in office, Schwarzenegger set off a chain of events by rolling back the Vehicle License Fee – which has cost the state $6.5 billion a year. Then, he convinced voters to pay off one year’s budget deficit – with a $15 billion bond that we’re now paying with interest. And with Republicans in the state legislature refusing to support any taxes whatsoever, Arnold vetoed a “majority-vote” budget in December that Democrats proposed – forcing everyone back to the drawing board. With the May 19th propositions going down, he has tried scaring voters with no success – and now is proposing more of the same. When Schwarzenegger leaves office next year, this catastrophe will be his lasting legacy …

Let’s review the latest outrage from a Governor who smells defeat at the polls tomorrow: lay off 5,000 state employees, cut $5.4 billion from school spending and borrow $7.5 billion from local governments (as if they didn’t have their own share of fiscal problems.) He even wants to lease more sites for off-shore oil drilling to bring in $100 million, even though the state doesn’t have an oil severance tax. No longer content to using scare tactics to get voters to approve his ballot measures, Arnold has said these steps will be necessary even if all Propositions pass – as the deficit now stands at fifteen billion dollars.

So why are we currently in this mess? The short answer is we’re in a bad recession with 11.5% unemployment, and the bottom has fallen out on the state’s revenue. Even the SF Chronicle agrees that laying off state workers is not the way to deal with this sudden and sobering deficit, and would probably make the problem worse. But the long answer is that – through a deadly combination of tax cuts and borrowing money to avoid any tax increases, Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger dug the state into this hole.

In 2003, Schwarzenegger followed up on his campaign pledge to cut the Vehicle License Fee – the so-called “car tax” that had been around since 1935. That step alone blew an annual $6.5 billion hole in the budget, which to date has added up to $35 billion. The Governor went on to walk the next five years in lockstep with the legislature’s Republicans, refusing to support any tax increase whatsoever. It wasn’t until last August that he finally acknowledged a revenue problem, but the only tax he would hike at the time was the sales tax – which adversely affects poor people, and is probably the worst tax to raise when the state is in recession.

But it’s not just a stubborn refusal to support new revenue. Arnold has compounded the problem by borrowing money – which, of course, the state eventually has to pay back with interest. In March 2004, when we had $15 billion deficit and the Governor was popular, Arnold persuaded the voters to pass Proposition 57 – a $15 billion bond to pay off that year’s budget gap. Like the current debate over the May 19th propositions, the argument was that defeat would make awful cuts necessary. Borrowing money is not always a bad thing, if it goes towards permanent infrastructure – like housing, schools or hospitals. But Prop 57 was like using a credit card to buy groceries – not a smart idea!

Now, Proposition 1C would allow the state to borrow up to $5 billion in future lottery revenue – which literally means we would be “gambling on gambling.” It’s an idea that Schwarzenegger has pushed for years, and the only reason many Democrats are voting “yes” is because it’s the only May 19th measure whose defeat would have a major short-term downside. But now Arnold has outdone himself when it comes to pushing fiscally irresponsible tactics – he wants the state to borrow $7.5 billion from county governments (even though they’re broke), just to balance this year’s budget.

As a “post-partisan” Republican who the media fawns over, Schwarzenegger could have used his bully pulpit to bring fiscal sanity to the state. He could have pushed a modest raise in the income tax for the rich, which Republican Governors like Ronald Reagan and Pete Wilson did when the state hit hard times. He could have pushed an oil severance tax, so that California would not be the only oil-producing state to avoid getting its fair share from oil exploration. And most of all, he could have pushed a repeal of the “two-thirds” rule that lets a minority of legislators hold the state budget hostage every year.

Instead, Arnold passed up every such opportunity to do the right thing. When Democrats in the legislature pushed a majority-vote budget in December as an end-run around the “two-thirds rule,” he vetoed it because it didn’t allow enough state privatization. With the May 19th propositions headed to defeat, Democratic leaders plan to re-introduce this proposal. Will the Governor join them, or will he pursue more bad sequels to his Hollywood gimmicks that fail to materialize?

Because Schwarzenegger only has 18 months left in office, and he’s leaving California nothing but a bigger debt. And it’s largely his fault …

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Re: Schwarzenegger collects honorary degree from USC
« Reply #32 on: May 18, 2009, 09:57:13 AM »
Arnold: (in his usual thick German accent) I cood nut haff dunn  it....wiff out plazmosis!"






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