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Author Topic: BJ Penn Continues Pursuit of NSAC Claim, Seeks Exhaustion in Order to Take the I  (Read 666 times)
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« on: May 15, 2009, 05:29:26 AM »

You may have thought grease gate was dead, but it's not.  Penn's attorney and his mother were in Nevada again this week for a further hearing.

Team Penn has conceded that NSAC won't do anything, and they are now trying to get NSAC to make an official ruling against them so they can take the issue to court:


While addressing the NSAC, Penn's attorney appeared anxious to exhaust all avenues of action from the commission in order to take his complaint to a different venue.

"This whole process, and I've indicated this to you before, is relating to the administrative procedures that we have to exhaust administrative procedures for us to move forward with this issue," Nahabedian said. "I need to have the commission make a definitive statement as to their decision, and I would request that the commission provide us with information relating to these motions represented because they are directed to the commission. They're not directed to anybody else."

In order to bring this issue into a Nevada court, Penn must exhaust all administrative remedies.  His lawyer is trying to urge a swift judgment that he knows will be adverse so he can take the next step and bring suit.  NSAC for its part appears to be in no hurry to take any action.  This thing could get ugly even faster in court.  If Penn files suit St. Pierre will undoubtedly respond with counterclaims of his own. 

I don't know what Penn's angle is, and I don't know anybody besides the true believers that think he is doing this because he is so concerned about justice.  Maybe he's trying to bring down St. Pierre out of spite, or maybe he's trying to get himself a rematch with St. Pierre.  The latter sounds a bit conspiratorial, but it would be an interesting strategy to file suit and then condition dropping it upon St. Pierre agreeing to fight him again.

It's almost hard to remember the days when I had so much respect for BJ Penn.  I really think that the realization that he's not a better fighter than St. Pierre has crushed him mentally, and he's doing everything he can to try to convince himself it wasn't legitimate.  If it means spending hundreds of thousands of dollars in legal fees to bring St. Pierre down, he's willing to go there.

I almost think they should just do a third fight if both of them win their next fights.  There are no clear contenders at their weight classes after Florian and Alves, and the issue remains unsettled.  The octagon is there to put things to rest, and as apathetic as I am about a third fight, the idea of GSP vs. Mike Swick doesn't exactly sound amazing to me either.

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« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2009, 06:30:08 AM »

This is all horseshit. The only way to get an administrative ruling overturned ( in most courts in this country as far as I know) is to prove fraud, abuse of discretion by the administrative law judge or panel that issued the ruling, or manifest disregard of the facts or law by the judge/ panel. This is a nearly impossible standard of proof to meet, absent some sort of bonafide corruption that BJ can demonstrate.

Admin law decisions are almost never reversed- And I am shocked that there isn't binding arbitration at work here before a court of law will even hear BJ's case.

All this does is tarnish BJ's legacy, bolster GSP's image and waste time and money.
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« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2009, 08:39:56 AM »

This is all horseshit. The only way to get an administrative ruling overturned ( in most courts in this country as far as I know) is to prove fraud, abuse of discretion by the administrative law judge or panel that issued the ruling, or manifest disregard of the facts or law by the judge/ panel. This is a nearly impossible standard of proof to meet, absent some sort of bonafide corruption that BJ can demonstrate.

Admin law decisions are almost never reversed- And I am shocked that there isn't binding arbitration at work here before a court of law will even hear BJ's case.

All this does is tarnish BJ's legacy, bolster GSP's image and waste time and money.

very true and agree 100%
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« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2009, 09:30:50 PM »

BJ is trying to salvage his reputation as the best P4P in court, because he has no chance dong it in the ring.

I did'nt like him before........but he has now gone from annoying to sickening.
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« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2009, 10:43:09 PM »

i think this whole greasegate thing is not only making bj look desperate but it makes mma look bad in a way, ill guarantee you that if bj does beat kenflo in august the crowds gonna boo bj right out of the octagon and arena, even when bj,s introduced as hes coming into the octagon to fight he will be bood imo. im not gonna boo the man but im dissapointed in bj cause i was a big fan
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« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2009, 06:49:57 AM »

i think this whole greasegate thing is not only making bj look desperate but it makes mma look bad in a way, ill guarantee you that if bj does beat kenflo in august the crowds gonna boo bj right out of the octagon and arena, even when bj,s introduced as hes coming into the octagon to fight he will be bood imo. im not gonna boo the man but im dissapointed in bj cause i was a big fan


I was a huge fan and still am. Everyone has heard me say BJ is one of my top 3 faves of all time, but he is making me lose interest in him. This is a total Bitch move, if he did cheat or not, BJ should shut his mouth focus on Kenflo and then work his ass off and try to come back and beat GSP or JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP AND DEAL WITH THE LOSS!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2009, 09:06:20 AM »

We all saw his crappy training vid for the last fight.  He is a good fighter, but simply got out-matched, out-talented and out-classed.  All he is doing is proving that he is a whiner not a winner.  He needs to see that he isn't living up to his nickname as "the prodigy"
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« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2009, 10:05:41 PM »

bj = Bitch
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