Has Dante "Doggcrapp" Ever been lean?

[Meso_z]

A permabulker "afraid" to diet down. 

suffering from "turkey neck".

[MCWAY]

A permabulker "afraid" to diet down. 

suffering from "turkey neck".

And he's afraid to diet down because.........

[Meso_z]

And he's afraid to diet down because.........

in the fear of losing fat "size" and retard strength.

[io856]

What would be the purpose of him "dieting down"?

[MCWAY]

in the fear of losing fat "size" and retard strength.

That makes no sense. He's not competing; so why does he need to go on a contest diet. As I said earlier, he's HUGE.

Ripped, he's at least 225 lbs (a superheavyweight).

[Meso_z]

That makes no sense. He's not competing; so why does he need to go on a contest diet. As I said earlier, he's HUGE.

Ripped, he's at least 225 lbs (a superheavyweight).

hes huge no doubt.

[MCWAY]

hes huge no doubt.

Are you denying that, ripped, he would NOT be, at the very least, meet the minimum 225, required to compete at a super-heavyweight?

[Meso_z]

Are you denying that, ripped, he would NOT be, at the very least, meet the minimum 225, required to compete at a super-heavyweight?

yes, he might be.

[MCWAY]

yes, he might be.

That leads me to my next point. There are few super-heavyweight competitors, who aren’t pushing 300 in the off-season. You don’t get that size without putting away the groceries.

As I said, too many people are afraid to start chowing down, eating and drinking the necessary calories to put on the beef. While you should do your best to minimize bodyfat accumulation, you WILL NOT put on pure muscle all of the time (whether you take steroids or not).

This may be just my opinion, but it appears that some people justify their own lack of progress, especially when they see someone substantially BIGGER and STRONGER than they are, by calling them “fat”.

[Meso_z]

That leads me to my next point. There are few super-heavyweight competitors, who aren’t pushing 300 in the off-season. You don’t get that size without putting away the groceries.

As I said, too many people are afraid to start chowing down, eating and drinking the necessary calories to put on the beef. While you should do your best to minimize bodyfat accumulation, you WILL NOT put on pure muscle all of the time (whether you take steroids or not).

This may be just my opinion, but it appears that some people justify their own lack of progress, especially when they see someone substantially BIGGER and STRONGER than they are, by calling them “fat”.

are you reffering directly to me? Ihave only wrote on page 8 in all these pages, answering to the title : "Has Dante "Doggcrapp" Ever been lean?"

[GetItOnNY]

Trust me if Dante Dante Dieted down for a dhow he would probably weigh in at 245-255lbs.
I competed as a super heavy, my off season weight was 280-290lbs.I would compete at 252-258lbs, this is official weight by John Lindsays scale.This scale is very accurate, and at the USA'S they weigh down to the 1/4lb.Because some weigh classes end at I think the 1/2lb mark.So when they say your weigh its callled out vocally, for examply 258 1/4lbs .
I would weigh in on Thursday night, just to get the weigh in out of the way.This way Friday I could finish my color, my presentation, and my complete my carb load.
By the time I stepped on stage I bet I weighed about 262lbs after restoring my glycogen, and adding a light amount of sodium right before getting on stage.
You have to remember something.If you are smart, which most guys arent.If you train hard, use the right anabolics and diet correctly you can actually put on muscle for a show.
You ask how? Quite simple, off season I might just use Sustanon 250 and some Primo or Tren.Getting ready for a show, your using more anabolics thereforer your body is more anabolic.If you are smart, again, you wont wear out your receptors on you off season.
By the time my contest prep would come, my receptors were fresh, and werent used to the anabolics I would take.So going into a show, I would add muscle.
Plus when dieting my protein and L-Glutamine level were extremely high so my body was never catabolic.
I have seen Dante, if he was to diet down for a show, with his size, knowledge, and backround he could easily step on stage at 250lbs shredded to the bone.
I bet he would place top 10 if not top 5 in nationals.
Dante knows not to overtrain, how to train and not to put the body in an anabolic state.
These are very very improtant factors when getting ready for a show.

[io856]

Trust me if Dante Dante Dieted down for a dhow he would probably weigh in at 245-255lbs.
I competed as a super heavy, my off season weiht was 280-290lbs.I would compete at 252-258lbs, this is official weight by John Lindsays scale.This sclae is very accurate, and at the USA'S they weigh down to the 1/4lb.Because some weigh classes end at I think the 1/2lb mark.So when they say your weigh its callled out vocally, for examply 258 1/4lbs .
I would weigh in on Thursday night, just to get the weigh in out of the way.This way Friday I could finish my color, my presentation, and my complete my carb load.
By the time I stepped on stage I bet I weighed about 262lbs after restoring my glycogen, and adding a light amount of sodium right before getting on stage.
You have to remember something.If you are samrt, which most guys arent.If you train hard, use the right anabolics and diet correctly you can actually put on muscle for a show.
You ask how? Quite simple, off season I might just use Sustanon 250 and some Primo or Tren.Getting ready for a show, your using more anabolics therefor your body is more anabolic.If you are smart, again, you wont wear out your receptors on you off season.
By the time my contest prep would come, my receptors were fresh, and werent used to the anabolics I would take.So going into a show, I would add muscle.
Plus when dieting my protein and L-Glutamine level were extremely high so my body was never catabolic.
I have seen Dante, if he was to diet down for a show, with his size, knowledge, and backround he could easily step on stage at 250lbs shredded to the bone.
I bet he would place top 10 if not top 5 in nationals.
Dante knows not to overtrain, how to train and not to put the body in an anabolic state.
These are very very improtant factors when getting ready for a show.

very interesting

Although I would understand that you don't want to go too low in the rep range...

What was your experience with your strength in those rep ranges you were comfortable with when preparing for your contests?

[GetItOnNY]

I trained the same pre-contest as I did off season.Why change something if it is working?
I would add more drop sets, and super sets for my contest prep, but the training was very simliar.When I train I work both fast twitch and slow twitch muscles.
Most bodybuilders know that your diet and cardio get you lean not your training.
Alot of guys do all the reps, and double the excercises they do.While there calories are cut in half.This is why they step on stage looking stringy soft and flat.
Ronnie Coleman and Dorian Both training heavy, and hard up until the day of the show.
If you calories are cut in half why would you do more sets? All your body is going to do is release cortisol which will inturn break down muscle.
Alot of guys are so catabolic getting ready for a show that is why they look horrible.

[io856]

I trained the same pre-contest as I did off season.Why change something if it is working?
I would add more drop sets, and super sets for my contest prep, but the training was very simliar.When I train I work both fast twitch and slow twitch muscles.
Most bodybuilders know that your diet and cardio get you lean not your training.
Alot of guys do all the reps, and double the excercises they do.While there calories are cut in half.This is why they step on stage looking stringy soft and flat.
Ronnie Coleman and Dorian Both training heavy, and hard up until the day of the show.
If you calories are cut in half why would you do more sets? All your body is going to do is release cortisol which will inturn break down muscle.
Alot of guys are so catabolic getting ready for a show that is why they look horrible.

thanks for the reply

so would you say your numbers (weight for x reps) stayed relatively the same throughout your prep?

[spinnis]

Don't know what's worse.

Looking like that, or looking like that AND having a shirt that says your name and "big" before it.

[GetItOnNY]

This is going to sound crazy, but I never count reps.Do you time sex? ( you probably do your a getbigger lol) no!!! Why because you go by feel.How can you train to failure when your counting reps.When you count reps psychological barriers get in the way.If I tell you to do 10 reps in your brain on the 9th reps your mind will tell you im alomst done, so I have to be getting tired.If I just told you go to failure you would probalby to 12 reps.
When you train dont counts reps, go by feel!!!!
My sets and reps go as followed. If I do 3 sets of a movement, my reps would be first set 9-12 reps, 2nd set 7-9 reps, 3rd set 4-6 reps.If I am doing 2 sets on an excercise.The first set would be 7-9 reps, and the second set 4-6 reps..
If you notice there are variables, because they are going to be days,when your not as strong and days were you are able to do more reps.
By training this way I found I worked both fast and slow twitch muscle fibers.
I dont do alot of sets either, I do maybe 10-12 for chest, legs and back.For arms 6-8 sets each.Bodybuilding isnt a marathon.Every set should be like a 100 dash, all you have for that particular set.
During contest prep I would do drop sets and super sets here and there.
But remember bodybuilding is all about feel it has nothing to do with sets or reps in my opinion.Just like good sex, its not planned its not timed, its all about the passion and the feel.Training should be just as instinctive

[local hero]

from my experience of loving, you want to go for extra reps in the bedroom.... no matter how much cortisol it releases......


from my experience of contest diets is similar to yours,,,, id actualy get down to a weight( after loosing the initial bulk), and more or less stay at it, just gettn harder and leaner as the diet went on...

[GetItOnNY]

Local hero, sex can never release cortisol unless the girl sucked in bed or you hated the person you were sleeping with.Even in that case you still wouldnt release Corisol.
Sex like intense training releases powerful drug like endorphins that actually stop cortisol from being released.A good sex life is priceless when it comes to training.I made the most growth and progress in my training when my sex life at its best.Never undestimate the power of a healthy love life with another human being.

[tendonitis]

Dante's a good guy, but he'd be an even better guy if he offered free shipping on orders over $100

come on Dante, help a brother out!!   

[GetItOnNY]

Tendonitis.We dont even off free shipping if a customer odrers $1000.
If you using really good raw materials your not going to make large profit margins.
Companies Like Muscle Tech and BSN make 300-500% mark up.
I am lucky to 30%.
Do you want free shipping or a better product.?
He could give you Whey Concentrate instead oF Isolate, put in a pretty bottle like BSN, and give you free shipping.Would that make you happy???.
Im sure you would rather get what you pay for then free shippping.If something is free or sounds to good to be true it usually is.

[bigkid]

Tendonitis.We dont even off free shipping if a customer odrers $1000.
If you using really good raw materials your not going to make large profit margins.
Companies Like Muscle Tech and BSN make 300-500% mark up.
I am lucky to 30%.
Do you want free shipping or a better product.?
He could give you Whey Concentrate instead oF Isolate, put in a pretty bottle like BSN, and give you free shipping.Would that make you happy???.
Im sure you would rather get what you pay for then free shippping.If something is free or sounds to good to be true it usually is.

Calm down.

[GetItOnNY]

Shut up convict!!!

[Miss Demeanor]

why do people use "Big" in their username when they're not big?

Ach IS big by anything but pro bodybuilding standards, and he says he is natural to boot.

You used to say that your buddy Adonis was a "tank."  Well, Ach's contest condition puts him to utter shame ... or do I need to post comparison pictures? 

Why the double-standard, Squad?  Maybe Ach's nose is big (btw, it's smoke a cigarette in the rain with your hands tied behind your back ), but you are barking up the wrong tree here.  Especially for what he claims to be, Ach IS big, even dieted down. 

[Van_Bilderass]

Trust me if Dante Dante Dieted down for a dhow he would probably weigh in at 245-255lbs.
I competed as a super heavy, my off season weight was 280-290lbs.I would compete at 252-258lbs, this is official weight by John Lindsays scale.

Although you are a jackass I have to say that you were on a different level compared to Dante. There is absolutely zero chance of Dante competing at 250, unless Dante was clean at 300 and added a couple dozen pounds of lbm during prep. Looking at his pics I would estimate Dante would end up at approximately the same weight as Arvilla did, possibly 10-15lbs more.

[MCWAY]

Although you are a jackass I have to say that you were on a different level compared to Dante. There is absolutely zero chance of Dante competing at 250, unless Dante was clean at 300 and added a couple dozen pounds of lbm during prep. Looking at his pics I would estimate Dante would end up at approximately the same weight as Arvilla did, possibly 10-15lbs more.

I said that, at the very least, he'd meed the superheavyweight minimum of 225 lbs.

And, superheavys tend to push the 300-lb mark in the off-season, which means they have to consume large amount of victuals (pronounced "vittles", as they say down south).