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Re: IF there is no God who governs human life?
« Reply #50 on: July 01, 2009, 01:10:19 AM »
So what does it prove Nordic Spermaman? There were/are small kids, for example, who died very young and knew nothing of turn over of organisms, nor natural selection, nor that actually the death is should be expected, they would love to but they are suddenly dead.

So what you're saying is you're not intelligent enough to understand Darwinian natural selection; you try to bypass this by speaking like some fool with ideas of grandeur.
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Re: IF there is no God who governs human life?
« Reply #51 on: July 01, 2009, 11:24:28 AM »



if he showed himself..crime would drop drastically...and there would be no athiests...simple

Kindly consider the question: what would your good do if evil did not exist, and what would the earth look like if shadows disappeared from it?

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Re: IF there is no God who governs human life?
« Reply #52 on: July 01, 2009, 11:32:34 AM »
So what you're saying is you're not intelligent enough to understand Darwinian natural selection; you try to bypass this by speaking like some fool with ideas of grandeur.


"I love fools' experiments. I am always making them." - Charles Darwin

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Re: IF there is no God who governs human life?
« Reply #53 on: July 02, 2009, 11:22:18 AM »
 and again

 since there is no god, but a natural selection governs human life, those doctors who killed MJ now gonna say, since we do not govern a shit it's not our fault but the natural selection, no crime no time my man.
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Re: IF there is no God who governs human life?
« Reply #54 on: July 02, 2009, 06:54:34 PM »
Kindly consider the question: what would your good do if evil did not exist, and what would the earth look like if shadows disappeared from it?


it'd be heaven!  8)
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Re: IF there is no God who governs human life?
« Reply #55 on: July 02, 2009, 07:54:05 PM »
it'd be heaven!  8)

don't encourage him this thread is 2 pages to long.
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Re: IF there is no God who governs human life?
« Reply #56 on: July 02, 2009, 08:00:48 PM »
don't encourage him this thread is 2 pages to long.


lol..k i'll stop
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Re: IF there is no God who governs human life?
« Reply #57 on: July 03, 2009, 04:06:52 AM »
it'd be heaven!  8)
Since everyone heard more or less of heaven may I ask you why there is so much evil? That girl who remained alive in airplane crash unlike those 100 + people who got suddenly dead is that good or evil for her? Since you started speaking like religious people, what do you know of heaven and hell, enlighten us... :-X

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Re: IF there is no God who governs human life?
« Reply #58 on: July 03, 2009, 05:42:30 AM »
"I love fools' experiments. I am always making them." - Charles Darwin

Wow, another display of ignorance and stupidity.

Since everyone heard more or less of heaven may I ask you why there is so much evil? That girl who remained alive in airplane crash unlike those 100 + people who got suddenly dead is that good or evil for her? Since you started speaking like religious people, what do you know of heaven and hell, enlighten us... :-X

Evil is a human invention. A tiger killing a monkey isn't evil; it's survival. But hope is lost with people lacking intelligence like your good self.
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Re: IF there is no God who governs human life?
« Reply #59 on: July 03, 2009, 07:38:59 AM »
Since everyone heard more or less of heaven may I ask you why there is so much evil?

1) i ws being facetious
2) there is no god..hense so much evil
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Re: IF there is no God who governs human life?
« Reply #60 on: July 03, 2009, 12:07:14 PM »
1) i ws being facetious
2) there is no god..hense so much evil

The only evil on this planet is from the hands of humans.
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Re: IF there is no God who governs human life?
« Reply #61 on: July 03, 2009, 12:52:00 PM »
cliff notes governs getbig.  try it again

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Re: IF there is no God who governs human life?
« Reply #62 on: July 03, 2009, 01:06:27 PM »
The only evil on this planet is from the hands of humans.

agree...and even that can be explained away by "an increase in entopry" :D

its is the natural order of things to go from a state of order to a state of disorder
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Re: IF there is no God who governs human life?
« Reply #63 on: July 04, 2009, 08:58:37 AM »
Evil is a human invention. A tiger killing a monkey isn't evil; it's survival. But hope is lost with people lacking intelligence like your good self.

 Good as well I may observe, but what of that? An aisteroid killing everything on the planet is it survival, good or bad?

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Re: IF there is no God who governs human life?
« Reply #64 on: July 04, 2009, 08:59:44 AM »
2) there is no god..hense so much evil

 He doesn't need to be showing himself off. If there is no God, then, the question still remains, who governs human life and, in general, the whole order of things on earth?'
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Re: IF there is no God who governs human life?
« Reply #65 on: July 04, 2009, 09:17:09 AM »

 
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He doesn't need to be showing himself off.

well now you r speaking for god??lol...and if thats true he miiight wanna make an apperance...lotsa suffering going on around the world for god to sleep in like a high skool drunk


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If there is no God, then, the question still remains, who governs human life


why do you think human life is governed? its not
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Re: IF there is no God who governs human life?
« Reply #66 on: July 04, 2009, 03:54:11 PM »
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Re: IF there is no God who governs human life?
« Reply #67 on: July 05, 2009, 05:44:52 AM »
 
lotsa suffering going on around the world for god to sleep in like a high skool drunk

 2 min read Giving it a thought (If you have brain) there is an answear

The man's  sufferings were so great that at times he  began  talking to
himself.
     'Oh, fool  that I am ...' he muttered, swaying on the stone in the pain
of his heart and clawing  his swarthy chest with his nails. 'Fool, senseless
woman, coward! I'm not a man, I'm carrion!'
     He  would fall silent,  hang  his head, then,  after drinking some warm
water from a wooden flask, he would revive again and clutch now at the knife
hidden on his chest under the tallith,  now at the  piece of parchment lying
before him on the stone next to a stylus and a pot of ink.
     On this parchment some notes had already been scribbled:
     The minutes run on, and I,  Matthew Levi, am here on Bald Mountain, and
still no death!'
     Further:
     The sun is sinking, but no death.'
     Now Matthew Levi wrote hopelessly with the sharp stylus:
     'God! Why are you angry with him? Send him death.'
     Having written this, he sobbed tearlessly and again  wounded  his chest
with his nails.
     The reason for Levi's despair lay  in the terrible misfortune  that had
befallen Yeshua and him and, besides that, in the grave error that he, Levi,
in his  own opinion, had committed.  Two days earlier,  Yeshua and  Levi had
been in Bethphage near Yershalaim, where they had visited a certain gardener
who liked Yeshua's preaching very much. The two visitors had spent the whole
morning  working in  the garden,  helping their  host, and planned to go  to
Yershalaim towards evening when it cooled off. But Yeshua began to hurry for
some reason, said he had urgent business in  the city, and left alone around
noontime. Here  lay Matthew Levi's first error. Why, why had he let  him  go
alone!
     Nor was Matthew Levi to go to Yershalaim that evening. He was struck by
some unexpected and  terrible ailment. He began to shake, his whole body was
filled with  fire, his teeth chattered,  and he kept asking to drink all the
time.
     He  could  not go  anywhere.  He collapsed  on  a horse  blanket in the
gardener's shed and lay there till dawn on Friday, when the illness released
Levi as unexpectedly as it had fallen upon him. Though he was still weak and
his legs  trembled,  he  took  leave  of  his  host and,  oppressed  by some
foreboding  of  disaster, went  to  Yershalaim.  There he  learned that  his
foreboding  had not deceived him  - the  disaster occurred. Levi was  in the
crowd and heard the procurator announce the sentence.
     When the  condemned men were led off to the mountain, Matthew  Levi ran
alongside the file in the crowd of the curious, trying to let Yeshua know in
some inconspicuous way that at least  he, Levi, was there with him,  that he
had  not abandoned him  on  his last  journey, and  that he was praying that
death would overtake Yeshua as soon as possible. But Yeshua, who was looking
into  the distance towards where  he  was being taken, of course did not see
Levi.
     And  then, when the procession  had  gone  about a  half-mile along the
road,  a  simple and  ingenious thought  dawned  on  Matthew,  who was being
jostled by the crowd just next to the file, and in his excitement he at once
showered himself with curses for  not having thought of it earlier. The file
of  soldiers  was not  solid,  there were  spaces between them. Given  great
dexterity  and a precise calculation, one could  bend down, slip between two
legionaries, make it  to the cart and jump  into it.  Then Yeshua  would  be
saved from suffering.
     One instant  would be enough  to stab Yeshua in the back with a  knife,
crying to  him:  'Yeshua!  I save you  and go  with  you! I,  Matthew,  your
faithful and only disciple!'
     And if God granted him one more free instant,  he would also have  time
to stab himself and avoid death on a post. This last, however, was of little
interest  to Levi, the  former tax collector. He was  indifferent to how  he
died. He wanted one thing, that Yeshua,  who had never  in his life done the
least evil to anyone, should escape torture.
     The plan was a very  good one, but the fact of the matter was that Levi
had no knife with him. Nor did he have a single piece of money.
     Furious  with himself,  Levi got out of the crowd and  ran  back to the
city.  A  single  feverish  thought was leaping in his burning head: how  to
procure a  knife  there in  the city,  in any way possible, and have time to
overtake the procession.
     He  ran up  to the city gate,  manoeuvring amid the throng of  caravans
being sucked  into the city, and saw to his  left the open door  of a little
shop  where bread  was sold. Breathing hard after running down  the scorched
road, Levi got control of  himself, entered the shop  very sedately, greeted
the woman behind the counter, asked her to take the top loaf from the shelf,
which for some  reason he liked better than the  others, and when she turned
around, silently  and quickly  took from the counter that than  which  there
could  be nothing better  - a long, razor-sharp bread knife  -  and  at once
dashed out of the shop.
     A few moments later he  was again on the Jaffa road. But the procession
was no longer in sight. He  ran. At times  he had to  drop down right in the
dust and lie motionless to recover his breath. And so he would lie there, to
the astonishment of people riding on mules or walking on foot to Yershalaim.
     He would lie listening to  his heart pounding not only in his chest but
in his head and ears. Having recovered his breath a little, he would jump up
and continue running,  but  ever slower and  slower. When he finally  caught
sight of the long procession raising dust in the distance, it was already at
the foot of the hill.
     'Oh, God! ...' Levi moaned, realizing that he was going to be too late.
And he was too late.
     When the fourth  hour of the  execution  had gone  by, Levi's  torments
reached  their  highest degree and he fell into a  rage. Getting up from the
stone, he flung to the ground the stolen knife -  stolen in vain, as he  now
thought - crushed the flask with his foot, depriving himself of water, threw
off his kefia, seized his thin hair, and began cursing himself.
     He cursed himself,  calling  out meaningless  words,  growled and spat,
abused his father and mother for bringing a fool into the world.
     Seeing  that  curses  and  abuse  had no  effect  and  nothing  in  the
sun-scorched place was changed by them, he  clenched  his  dry fists, raised
them,  squinting, to the  sky, to  the sun  that  was  sliding  ever  lower,
lengthening the shadows  and  going  to  fall  into the  Mediterranean,  and
demanded  an immediate miracle from God. He demanded  that God  at once send
Yeshua death.
     Opening his eyes, he became convinced that  everything  on the hill was
unchanged, except that the blazing spots on the centurion's  chest  had gone
out. The sun was  sending  its rays into the backs of the executed men,  who
were facing Yershalaim. Then Levi shouted:
     'I curse you. God!'
     In a  rasping voice he shouted that he was convinced of God's injustice
and did not intend to believe in him any longer.
     You  are  deaf!'  growled Levi. `If  you were not deaf,  you would have
heard me and killed him straight away!'
     Shutting his eyes, Levi waited for  the fire that  would  fall from the
sky and strike him instead. This did  not happen, and  Levi, without opening
his eyes,  went on shouting offensive and  sarcastic things at  the sky.  He
shouted about his total disappointment,  about  the existence of other  gods
and religions. Yes, another god  would not  have allowed it, he  would never
have allowed a man like Yeshua to be burnt by the sun on a post.
     'I  was mistaken!' Levi cried in a completely hoarse voice. 'You are  a
god  of evil! Or are your eyes  completely clouded by smoke from the  temple
censers,  and  have  your ears ceased to  hear anything but  the  trumpeting
noises of the priests? You are not  an almighty god! You  are a black god! I
curse you, god of robbers, their soul and their protector!'
     Here  something blew  into  the face of the former  tax collector,  and
something rustled under his feet. It blew once more,  and  then, opening his
eyes,  Levi saw that, either under  the influence of his curses, or owing to
other reasons, everything in the world was changed......

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Re: IF there is no God who governs human life?
« Reply #68 on: July 05, 2009, 05:45:43 AM »
 why do you think human life is governed? its not

 Before you would think whether the human life is goverened or not, think about yourself in particular. As it's been already said, you've come on this planet Earth involuntarily and without invitation or your permisson, you weren't goverened who your parents are. Up say to 5 years old you were completely goverened by your parents who protected you from the dangerous situations and haven't let you die of hunger or end up in the box on the street... Up say 15 y.o. you couldn't have explained coherently whether you govern at all on your way or not as again your parents, if prudent, took care of your ass. Suddenly you think you can govern something and try to build a plan for the better fate, success, secured future, career. You were alpha male a bit and ended up locked for 3 years. You thought once you freed you will take it serious. But you tragically and suddenly die, shit happens as you say it in the US. You deprived of the opportunity of making a plan for a thousand years - but cannot even vouch for your own tomorrow and generally you're unable to say what you're going to do this same evening? You say the probability of you going to work tomorrow is very high the probability of god actually not being shy and showing face tomorrow...nil! I may as well say the probability of me to spit on the floor now is very high and god showing his face - nil. It doesn't mean anything in the general scheme of things at all, nor for me, nor for ya. You were goverened from the moment you saw the light, you were as if the fly, did understand nothing and knew nothing of science, nor anything. Poker face and good guy Barack Obama smashed that fly while being interviewed and the fly suddenly dead. It can happen with your good self any moment, in the night for example and the last words you here - can it be... I hope you aren't one of those who sleeps for half and hour, then jumps up and keeps walking and walking about to see whether the evil people have not set fire to something, have not stolen something or were intending to kill ya? The man is suddenly mortal as the fly, there is the trick. We heard of Darwinian natural selection, theory of chaos, flew on the moon but what of that?????????? No one can vouch he will wake up tomorrow, no one. Even your idolised hero Enstein couldn't have vouched for his own tomorrow. What could he do had the car overrode his brain while he was a toddler? Had it not been Enstein it would have been some other clown, there is no logic but idle chance...You get a boner speaking like the knowitall scientist, do as you like but leave the rest to heaven.

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Re: IF there is no God who governs human life?
« Reply #69 on: July 05, 2009, 07:24:08 AM »
oh please make it stop....there is no god I pray every night for this thread to go away.oh god please oh great mighty powerful all knowing supreme being please make it stop.....somehow I don't think this will work
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Re: IF there is no God who governs human life?
« Reply #70 on: July 05, 2009, 07:48:46 AM »
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No one can vouch he will wake up tomorrow, no one. Even your idolised hero Enstein couldn't have vouched for his own tomorrow

THAT is your proof of god...

ok can i vouch for something 100%...

wanna make a $1000 bet?

God wont show himself for the next month...

how about that.i'm predicting 30 days in advance!  ;)
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Re: IF there is no God who governs human life?
« Reply #71 on: July 05, 2009, 10:30:59 AM »
THAT is your proof of god...

ok can i vouch for something 100%...

wanna make a $1000 bet?

God wont show himself for the next month...

how about that.i'm predicting 30 days in advance!  ;)

Supreme intelligence my halfwit interlocutor. There are three classes of people: those who see, those who see when they are shown, those who do not see. You're the 3'rd.
 I know you're ready to argue till the day of judgment. To argue, be thinking you can govern something -- how interestin it is...

Ok can i vouch for something 100%...

Wanna make a $1000 bet?

You will not see my girlfriend I fock for the next month. 30 days in advance.

Tell me frankly you live in the USA? You gonna lose in the long run, and it shows already.

Wind of change??? ;)

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Re: IF there is no God who governs human life?
« Reply #72 on: July 05, 2009, 10:52:03 AM »
Supreme intelligence my halfwit interlocutor. There are three classes of people: those who see, those who see when they are shown, those who do not see. You're the 3'rd.
 I know you're ready to argue till the day of judgment. To argue, be thinking you can govern something -- how interestin it is...

Ok can i vouch for something 100%...

Wanna make a $1000 bet?

You will not see my girlfriend I fock for the next month. 30 days in advance.

Tell me frankly you live in the USA? You gonna lose in the long run, and it shows already.

Wind of change??? ;)


you have sex out of wed lock?
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Re: IF there is no God who governs human life?
« Reply #73 on: July 05, 2009, 10:57:25 AM »
This thread is not THG approved. :-\
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Re: IF there is no God who governs human life?
« Reply #74 on: July 05, 2009, 12:21:37 PM »


You will not see my girlfriend I fock for the next month. 30 days in advance.




give me your addy and i will come see...see i provide an immediate solution..

now gimme an immediate solution on how to see god
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