The TRUE natural limit?

[gh15]

sht up already with the pms i answer it one time inregard fr every pic mentioned then dont ask me this nonesense anymore,, give me few min and i answer in regard to every picture ,,

[gh15]

I'm always hearing about different opinions of what can be achieved naturally. Some people claim very high limits of musculature and some people claim that even people who aren't heavier than 170lbs with a 6 pack must be using steroids.

So people...Post pictures of YOUR opinions of what could be naturally achieved with GOOD genetics, EXTREME dedication, YEARS of weight training, PERFECT diet.


Even if the people in the pictures aren't natural...They can still be used as an example of what can be achieved naturally in your opinion.





Please don't post pictures of skinny people or pictures of massive pro-bodybuilders to be funny. (I know people will be dumb and do this anyway).



Here is my opinion on what can be done naturally if everything is done right and the person dedicates a lot lives to building this physique.

hormonized from turinabol to anadrol to needles and inbetween ,,seriious cycles

[gh15]

If he's not a liar, yes. This would be my example BTW:



Can't say for sure if he's natural of course, but this is believable to me.

hormonized ,,bad response to hormones,,the likes of big breaks between cycles and specific products then breaks,,lack if thickness due to needle scare

[gh15]

101% Natural

Supplements Free

All Eggs, Chicken Breast, Garlic & Onions 

2 years Old Pictures, I will update you with the incredible new Development very soon 

hormonized ,,mainly PRO HORMONE products and fat burners

[wavelength]

hormonized ,,bad response to hormones,,the likes of big breaks between cycles and specific products then breaks,,lack if thickness due to needle scare

You think it's absolutely impossible to get to that physique without hormones?

[gh15]

My picture is not about the natural limit...some people with more years of training and with better supplements can achieve a much better physique naturally. So this is why I can't understand when a hobby bodybuilder start using steroids...  Why?

This is me at 18 years old, after 3 years of training, natural. No juice, no fat burners, no diuretic.

hormonized with good response to minimal doses ,,we consider it natural in today bodybuildign but hormones in system

[gh15]

this fella was natural right here and then the 2nd,,pic he is on dbol at 6 tablets at from ciba.

hormonized to the max both pictures,,to the max in those days was not to the max in these days!  they used more of basics not too much exotic because there were not to many exotics

[gh15]

natural in those days but as said before experiemtn with homornes as discussed before in 2005

[gh15]

one of my best friends - I know for a fact he's natural.  trains hard and has unreal genetics

hormonized and has been to growth hormone at low doses,,bad response to hormones

[gh15]

And this is what you can achieve natural if you do everything right, eat, sleep and train well.



And that guy on the pic is to 99% chance juiced.

need more picture of fella ,,this picture is not good enough ,,he has products in his system but need one more picture to give you definite answer if its pro hormones or actual hormones

[gh15]

You think it's absolutely impossible to get to that physique without hormones?

he been to hormones,,the level of condition and dryness in addition to muscle development and good thickness for tiny person ,, just bad response so its all on a miniature level,,this is more of a winstrol turinabol tablets type of fella bneveer the less a user

fella 6.5% if nto 6% and maintaining fullness and some thickness for his tiny size ,,this is what water based hormones or in his case short easter non  aromatze orals help you achieve

gh15 approved

[wavelength]

he been to hormones,,the level of condition and dryness in addition to muscle development and good thickness for tiny person ,, just bad response so its all on a miniature level,,this is more of a winstrol turinabol tablets type of fella bneveer the less a user

fella 6.5% if nto 6% and maintaining fullness and some thickness for his tiny size ,,this is what water based hormones or in his case short easter non  aromatze orals help you achieve

gh15 approved

I'd be interested in your judgement of my physique in two weeks. I want to try getting in my best condition ever.

[JOCKTHEGLIDE]

THANK YOU GOD!!!! YORU THE BEST GOD ANYONE CAN HAVE

[liberalismo]

*cough* liar! *cough* even you are skinny, I don't believe you for one second.

How small must YOU be to think that this can't be achieved naturally?

Or if not small, most of your physique must have been built on steroids. You obviously don't have the drive.

[heretostay13]

natural limit embodied

[Earl1972]

How small must YOU be to think that this can't be achieved naturally?

Or if not small, most of your physique must have been built on steroids. You obviously don't have the drive.

do you look similar to all these guys?

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[beard]

How small must YOU be to think that this can't be achieved naturally?

Or if not small, most of your physique must have been built on steroids. You obviously don't have the drive.

I'm not superhuge. Here is a picture. On that picture I'm NOT natural and I'm proud of that. 

How the hell do you know if I have the drive or not???

BTW I'm sure I both train harder and eat better than you sorry ass!

[beard]

I could easily lie and say I am natural like most dicks out there. And I could add to that that I only been training 1 year seriously... to get some ahs and wows from the "audience". But I'm not that kind of a fucker. I'm an honest guy. I started training a little when I was 15 at a gym and on that pic I'm 24. Don't know how many years I've trained seriously but probably 5 years+. And I don't know when I juiced up for the first time ... Hm I think I tried some andriol when I was 19. And after that some d-bols. After that I did a few cycles every year. Some of them wasn't very productive. I didn't know so much about gearing up at that time.

Today I like to stay in shape and not be too big. Actually I would love to be huge, but I know what it takes and I'm not willing to go down that path. Smart cycling is the key ...

[Vorkosigan]

Good post beard, honesty is lacking on the board

[uberman09]

I could easily lie and say I am natural like most dicks out there. And I could add to that that I only been training 1 year seriously... to get some ahs and wows from the "audience". But I'm not that kind of a fucker. I'm an honest guy. I started training a little when I was 15 at a gym and on that pic I'm 24. Don't know how many years I've trained seriously but probably 5 years+. And I don't know when I juiced up for the first time ... Hm I think I tried some andriol when I was 19. And after that some d-bols. After that I did a few cycles every year. Some of them wasn't very productive. I didn't know so much about gearing up at that time.

Today I like to stay in shape and not be too big. Actually I would love to be huge, but I know what it takes and I'm not willing to go down that path. Smart cycling is the key ...

why would you love to get "huge" exactly?

[beard]

Good post beard, honesty is lacking on the board

Thanx man!

[disco_stu]

I could easily lie and say I am natural like most dicks out there. And I could add to that that I only been training 1 year seriously... to get some ahs and wows from the "audience". But I'm not that kind of a fucker. I'm an honest guy. I started training a little when I was 15 at a gym and on that pic I'm 24. Don't know how many years I've trained seriously but probably 5 years+. And I don't know when I juiced up for the first time ... Hm I think I tried some andriol when I was 19. And after that some d-bols. After that I did a few cycles every year. Some of them wasn't very productive. I didn't know so much about gearing up at that time.

Today I like to stay in shape and not be too big. Actually I would love to be huge, but I know what it takes and I'm not willing to go down that path. Smart cycling is the key ...

i agree, good post. however, whenever i post about my 10 years of training and experience with both natural and drug using BB, complete with the results of every cycle and every measurement, i get cries of BS from tossers here.

same for when i post about my experience observing friends of mine who i used to train and hang with.

BS!!BS!! they cry.

i dont train anymore, have a professional job, family, house, car, great life, and dont need to post for the sake of bragging about how great or not great i once was...i post the complete truth..

but i generally dont bother anymore due to the flak i get from those who perhaps havent had the same results, cant achieve what i did, or dont understand that you can be 250-300lb and not be a pro, or even have a pro/national level physique- or, in fact, dont want to compete.

[beard]

why would you love to get "huge" exactly?

Are you joking? Because it feels great to be strong and massive. The bigger you get the better pump you get, it's just feels great to gain and get big.

It's like asking why do you like pizza?

[liberalismo]

I'm not superhuge. Here is a picture. On that picture I'm NOT natural and I'm proud of that. 

How the hell do you know if I have the drive or not???

BTW I'm sure I both train harder and eat better than you sorry ass!

If you need steroids to get THAT physique then NO WONDER you're so angry at people like Doug Jones who dwarf you naturally. You don't look like you use steroids.

[andreisdaman]

the original guy posted is obviously on a MASSIVE dose..he definitely is NOT natural..come on!!!