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Re: Gov. Sanford admits affair with mistress in Argentina
« Reply #100 on: June 26, 2009, 10:58:48 PM »
This is unbelievable.  Sounds like this man suffers from mental illness.   :-\

Jenny Sanford: How I Found Out About The Affair

BRUCE SMITH | June 26, 2009 09:00 PM EST | AP

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SULLIVANS ISLAND, S.C. — South Carolina first lady Jenny Sanford sat in her oceanfront living room Friday, recalling how her husband repeatedly asked permission to visit his lover in the months after she discovered his affair.

"I said absolutely not. It's one thing to forgive adultery; it's another thing to condone it," Jenny Sanford told The Associated Press during a 20-minute interview at the coastal home where she sought refuge with their four sons. They were her first extended comments on the affair.

She said that when her husband, Gov. Mark Sanford, inexplicably disappeared last week, she hoped he was hiking on the Appalachian Trail, as his staff told those who inquired about his absence. That he had dared to go to Argentina to see the other woman left her stunned.

"He was told in no uncertain terms not to see her," she said in a strong, steady voice. "I was hoping he was on the Appalachian Trail. But I was not worried about his safety. I was hoping he was doing some real soul searching somewhere and devastated to find out it was Argentina. It's tragic."

The Sanfords had separated about two weeks ago. She said her husband told the family that he wanted some time away to work on writing a book and clear his head. The first lady said, "I had every hope he was not going to see her."

"You would think that a father who didn't have contact with his children, if he wanted those children, he would toe the line a little bit," she said.

Sanford, who is staying at the official residence in Columbia, returned Wednesday to end days of speculation on his whereabouts, publicly confess his cheating and emotionally apologize.

Jenny Sanford, a Georgetown-educated, former Wall Street vice president, did not stand next to her husband Wednesday during his pained public confession.
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Sanford said she discovered her husband's affair early this year after coming across a copy of a letter to the mistress in one of his files in the official governor's mansion. He had asked her to find some financial information, she said, not an unusual request considering her heavy involvement in his career.

She would not comment on what was in the letter except to say "enough to figure out an affair was going on."

She felt "shocked and obviously deeply hurt. I didn't think he had it in him," she said. "It's hard to find out your husband is not who you thought he was."

The first lady said she confronted her husband immediately, and he agreed to end the affair. She said she wasn't sure Friday whether he had done so.

"I guess that's what we will have to see. I believe he has," she said. "But he was down there for five days. I saw him yesterday and he is not staying here. We'll just see what kind of spirit of reconciliation he has himself."

The governor declined to discuss details of the letter and how he handled it with his wife.

"This goes into the personal zone," Sanford said Friday. "I'd simply say that Jenny has been absolutely magnanimous and gracious as a wonderful Christian woman in this process."

Jenny Sanford cried at the end of the interview, and said the couple have been to counseling.

"When I found out in January, we both indicated a willingness to continue working on the marriage, but there's not room for three people in a marriage," she said. "I've done everything in my power possibly to keep him from going to see her and to really make sure she was off the table, including asking him to leave."

About an hour after Jenny Sanford talked of her pain and feelings of betrayal, her husband brushed aside any suggestion he might immediately resign, citing the Bible and the story of King David _ who continued to lead after sleeping with another man's wife, Bathsheba, having the husband slain, then marrying the widow.

"What I find interesting is the story of David, and the way in which he fell mightily _ fell in very, very significant ways, but then picked up the pieces and built from there," Sanford told members of his cabinet in a session called so he could apologize to them in person and tell them the business of government must continue.

Meanwhile, questions grew about a trip to Argentina he took last summer. While Sanford has agreed to reimburse the state for part of a more-than $8,000 tab that enabled him to see the mistress, state officials indicated they never intended a South American economic development trip to hold meetings in Argentina. That was only done at the governor's behest, said Kara Borie, a spokeswoman for the state Commerce Department.

Sanford spokesman Joel Sawyer said he did not immediately know whether Sanford's request for business meetings would have allowed him to have taxpayers cover the entire Argentina visit.

Some Republican leaders have called for Sanford to resign and some lawmakers and watchdog groups are pressing for investigations into whether he improperly used state money.

For Jenny Sanford, the focus is the couple's four sons. During her interview, she wept as she displayed the stellar report cards earned by her eldest two sons at their exclusive private school in Columbia.

On the coffee table was a collection of devotional books, including a book of commentary on the Bible's Book of Job, the story of a man whose faith God tests to the extreme.

"Parenting is the most important job there is and what Mark has done has added a serious weight to that job," she said.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/26/jenny-sanford-how-i-found_n_221785.html

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Re: Gov. Sanford admits affair with mistress in Argentina
« Reply #101 on: June 26, 2009, 11:12:05 PM »
Unreal.   

Maybe politicians should be made to have quarterly polygraph and psych evaluations. 

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Re: Gov. Sanford admits affair with mistress in Argentina
« Reply #102 on: July 02, 2009, 11:47:54 AM »
Bennett: Sanford needs to stop 'embarrassing himself'
Posted: 01:37 PM ET
(CNN) – Mark Sanford is "embarrassing himself" and needs to resign as governor of South Carolina, conservative talk radio host and CNN contributor Bill Bennett said Thursday on CNN's American Morning.

Bennett, the latest high profile conservative to call for Sanford's ouster, said it's time for the onetime Republican rising star to ditch politics and focus solely on getting his life back in order.

"I know Mark Sanford. I know him quite well," Bennett said. "He needs to get his life back in order, his marriage back in order. He is embarrassing himself."

"There is the old notion of indecent exposure, usually that refers to somebody showing some skin, and there's another form of indecent exposure. He is telling us way too much," Bennett continued. "We're not interested. He needs to stop and take care of his life."

Bennett also suggested the GOP can easily fill the gap Sanford would leave.

"We have other people," he said. "We have other people who are not only fiscally interesting and sound but also can keep their lives together. "

Bennett's comments come as more than half of the Republicans in the state senate have now called for Sanford to step down, as well as a host of other GOP leaders in the state. Sanford has indicated he does not intend to resign.

"The whole thing is pretty ugly. It needs to stop," Bennett also said.

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Re: Gov. Sanford admits affair with mistress in Argentina
« Reply #103 on: July 02, 2009, 12:01:37 PM »
[Thank God we found out what a fool this guy is now before he decided to run for prez.  What a flake. 

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Re: Gov. Sanford admits affair with mistress in Argentina
« Reply #104 on: July 02, 2009, 12:11:05 PM »
and of course there's got the be touting his christian values:

http://minor-ripper.blogspot.com/2009/06/video-mark-sanford-family-values.html

hasn't he now admitted to being involved with mulitiple women over the years?

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Re: Gov. Sanford admits affair with mistress in Argentina
« Reply #105 on: July 02, 2009, 12:14:27 PM »
[Thank God we found out what a fool this guy is now before he decided to run for prez.  What a flake. 

Tell me about it.  He's just as bad as John Edwards. 

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Re: Gov. Sanford admits affair with mistress in Argentina
« Reply #106 on: July 02, 2009, 02:03:54 PM »
Bleech.
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Re: Gov. Sanford admits affair with mistress in Argentina
« Reply #107 on: July 02, 2009, 03:57:41 PM »
I like this woman.  Excellent statement. 

Jenny Sanford speaks out
Posted: 06:30 PM ET
 
(CNN) — Jenny Sanford, wife of South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford, is speaking out in a new statement about her husband's affair.

"Mark showed a lack of judgment in his recent actions as governor. However, his far more egregious offenses were committed against God, the institutions of marriage and family, our boys and me," Mrs. Sanford said in a statement. "Mark has stated that his intent and determination is to save our marriage, and to make amends to the people of South Carolina. I hope he can make good on those intentions, and for the sake of our boys I leave the door open to it."

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Statement from First Lady Jenny Sanford

Columbia, S.C. – July 2, 2009- The last week has been very painful for me, my family and for the people of South Carolina.  However, throughout this terrible ordeal, the incredible outpouring of kindness, support, and prayer I've received from countless friends and folks I have never even met has been truly uplifting.  I appreciate that more than I can say.  Please know that my sons and I are doing fine, given the circumstances.  We are surrounded by friends and family, and we will make it through this. I believe it is how we respond to the challenges we face in life, and what we learn from them, that is most telling about who we truly are.

There is no question that Mark's behavior is inexcusable. Actions have consequences and he will be dealing with those consequences for a long while. Trust has been broken and will need to be rebuilt. Mark will need to earn back that trust, first and foremost with his family, and also with the people of South Carolina.

The real issue now is one of forgiveness. I am willing to forgive Mark for his actions. We have been deeply disappointed in and even angry at Mark. The Bible says, "In your anger do not sin."  (Psalm 4:4) In this situation, this speaks to the essence of forgiveness and the critical need to channel one's energy into positive steps that uphold the dignity of marriage and the family, and lead to reconciliation over time. My forgiveness is essential for us both to move on with our lives, with peace, in whatever direction that may take us.

Desmond Tutu said "forgiveness is the grace by which you enable the other person to get up, and get up with dignity, to begin anew."  Forgiveness opens the door for Mark to begin to work privately, humbly and respectfully toward reconciliation with me. However, to achieve true reconciliation will take time, involve repentance, and will not be easy.

Mark showed a lack of judgment in his recent actions as governor. However, his far more egregious offenses were committed against God, the institutions of marriage and family, our boys and me.  Mark has stated that his intent and determination is to save our marriage, and to make amends to the people of South Carolina. I hope he can make good on those intentions, and for the sake of our boys I leave the door open to it. In that spirit of forgiveness, it is up to the people and elected officials of South Carolina to decide whether they will give Mark another chance as well.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/07/02/jenny-sanford-speaks-out/#more-58829

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Re: Gov. Sanford admits affair with mistress in Argentina
« Reply #108 on: July 02, 2009, 07:15:08 PM »
i'd like to see a politician say "i could care less who bangs who, just fix the economy".

I thin kmost people would agree with him on it.

I think the closest we might have seen was Prime Minister Pierre Elliot Trudeau, when he said:
"The government has no business in the bedrooms of the nation" -- Pierre Elliot Trudeau

...but then again, ...what would one expect from a Prime Minister who was also single and a swinger?
...and then elopes, while in office, getting married to a woman 30 years younger than him?  :D

I have a soft spot in my heart for Trudeau, ...he's the only politician I know of that had the balls to give newspapers & cameramen the finger when they were stalking him, ...knowing full well his middle finger would be splashed across the front pages of newspapers all over the country.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Elliot_Trudeau
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Re: Gov. Sanford admits affair with mistress in Argentina
« Reply #109 on: July 03, 2009, 12:50:57 AM »
I think the closest we might have seen was Prime Minister Pierre Elliot Trudeau, when he said:
"The government has no business in the bedrooms of the nation" -- Pierre Elliot Trudeau

...but then again, ...what would one expect from a Prime Minister who was also single and a swinger?
...and then elopes, while in office, getting married to a woman 30 years younger than him?  :D

I have a soft spot in my heart for Trudeau, ...he's the only politician I know of that had the balls to give newspapers & cameramen the finger when they were stalking him, ...knowing full well his middle finger would be splashed across the front pages of newspapers all over the country.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Elliot_Trudeau
JAGALICIOUS where have you been my love? I have missed you immensely   :-[ :-*

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Re: Gov. Sanford admits affair with mistress in Argentina
« Reply #110 on: July 03, 2009, 07:35:03 AM »
I think the closest we might have seen was Prime Minister Pierre Elliot Trudeau, when he said:
"The government has no business in the bedrooms of the nation" -- Pierre Elliot Trudeau

...but then again, ...what would one expect from a Prime Minister who was also single and a swinger?
...and then elopes, while in office, getting married to a woman 30 years younger than him?  :D

I have a soft spot in my heart for Trudeau, ...he's the only politician I know of that had the balls to give newspapers & cameramen the finger when they were stalking him, ...knowing full well his middle finger would be splashed across the front pages of newspapers all over the country.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Elliot_Trudeau

I completely agree but then I'm guessing that Trudeau didn't make his religion and moral authority part of his campaign.  I'm also guessing he didn't muse on camera about "christian values, character and honesty"

http://minor-ripper.blogspot.com/2009/06/video-mark-sanford-family-values.html


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Re: Gov. Sanford admits affair with mistress in Argentina
« Reply #111 on: July 03, 2009, 08:04:32 AM »
People cheat on their spouses. Its a fact. Its irrelevant what party they are from.

One thing that Liberals have never been able to wrap their minds around is the fact that when bad behavior ( by bad I mean actions that most people would at the very least find objectionable) is committed by a large group of people, the act itself doesnt become good or acceptable by proxy. For example- Most people regularly watch, or have watched porn. Myself included-- I have a dvd collection that would make Larry Flynt blush. However, do I think that watching porn should be actively encouraged and that children should be able to watch it at their leisure? No- Absolutely not.

The same goes for drug use, drinking, cheating on taxes etc.-- Liberals call conservatives hypocrits because they condemn such actions while many actively engage in such actions themselves. I do not see it that way at all. Human beings have certain appitites and make errors in judgment- from who they fuck, to what they put in their bodies, to what risks they take. Liberals like to champion the fringe limits of personal autonomy- while conservatives like to preach for discretion.

 While I certainly do not believe that cheating on someones spouse makes them unfit to govern (Bill Clinton didn't do a bad job, neither did JFK and on and on) I can understand why the public may not support a politician who freequents whore houses or cheats on their wife and the mother of their children of 20+ years in office. 

Like it or not, public officials are supposed to be role models to a large degree. They govern us- they make the rules, they set the precedents and they are in unique positions of power. With that, comes extra scrutiny, slimeball media coverage and the rest. With the perks, come the burdens.

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Re: Gov. Sanford admits affair with mistress in Argentina
« Reply #112 on: July 03, 2009, 08:06:57 AM »
I completely agree but then I'm guessing that Trudeau didn't make his religion and moral authority part of his campaign.  I'm also guessing he didn't muse on camera about "christian values, character and honesty"

http://minor-ripper.blogspot.com/2009/06/video-mark-sanford-family-values.html


You'd be correct too. I don't ever recall him wearing his religion on his sleeve at all.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Elliot_Trudeau#Spirituality

I was very surprised to discover he was fiercely Catholic. Although not surprising given his background, ...only in that his spirituality was something he kept to himself, ...as it should be in my opinion. Nothing worse than some asshole who insists upon letting you know his or her religion completely out of the blue, without any valid reason, within 5 minutes of meeting you. Throughout my life, ...I've had nothing but trouble from those types. Major red flag in my opinion. Although the plus side of that is, ...you get to recognize the psychos real quick. ie: "I'm a (insert religion here), ...and we believe in being loving & generous and helping to all mankind", ...but that same self-glorifying person can easily sit by and let someone starve or die of thirst in the streets when it's within their power to save a life. Quite the psychotic disconnect in my opinion. Oh well, ....maybe they think they're like the pharoahs, ...and have the ability to take it with them.
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Re: Gov. Sanford admits affair with mistress in Argentina
« Reply #113 on: July 03, 2009, 08:15:29 AM »
If politicians want their personal life to be off limits then they should lead by example and stop using their family/religion as political props.   Unless a politician is breaking the law I don't want to hear about it.  Stick to the issue

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Re: Gov. Sanford admits affair with mistress in Argentina
« Reply #114 on: July 03, 2009, 08:16:09 AM »

Like it or not, public officials are supposed to be role models to a large degree. They govern us- they make the rules, they set the precedents and they are in unique positions of power. With that, comes extra scrutiny, slimeball media coverage and the rest. With the perks, come the burdens.

This is where you and I disagree. I don't believe public officials are supposed to be role models. I don't vote people into office to be role models. I vote them into office to take care of state business, run the economy, and to administrate policy. I think parents should be role models. Any parent who elects a public official to be a role model is a lazy fool. Build and maintain the roads, keep the water safe, administer the needs of the state, keep the economy strong, provide for collective defence and justice, ...but don't set yourself up to be a role model.
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Re: Gov. Sanford admits affair with mistress in Argentina
« Reply #115 on: July 03, 2009, 08:19:57 AM »
If politicians want their personal life to be off limits then they should lead by example and stop using their family/religion as political props.   Unless a politician is breaking the law I don't want to hear about it.  Stick to the issue

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Re: Gov. Sanford admits affair with mistress in Argentina
« Reply #116 on: July 03, 2009, 08:25:26 AM »
If politicians want their personal life to be off limits then they should lead by example and stop using their family/religion as political props.   Unless a politician is breaking the law I don't want to hear about it.  Stick to the issue

great call

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Re: Gov. Sanford admits affair with mistress in Argentina
« Reply #117 on: July 03, 2009, 11:39:28 AM »
People cheat on their spouses. Its a fact. Its irrelevant what party they are from.

One thing that Liberals have never been able to wrap their minds around is the fact that when bad behavior ( by bad I mean actions that most people would at the very least find objectionable) is committed by a large group of people, the act itself doesnt become good or acceptable by proxy. For example- Most people regularly watch, or have watched porn. Myself included-- I have a dvd collection that would make Larry Flynt blush. However, do I think that watching porn should be actively encouraged and that children should be able to watch it at their leisure? No- Absolutely not.

The same goes for drug use, drinking, cheating on taxes etc.-- Liberals call conservatives hypocrits because they condemn such actions while many actively engage in such actions themselves. I do not see it that way at all. Human beings have certain appitites and make errors in judgment- from who they fuck, to what they put in their bodies, to what risks they take. Liberals like to champion the fringe limits of personal autonomy- while conservatives like to preach for discretion.

 While I certainly do not believe that cheating on someones spouse makes them unfit to govern (Bill Clinton didn't do a bad job, neither did JFK and on and on) I can understand why the public may not support a politician who freequents whore houses or cheats on their wife and the mother of their children of 20+ years in office. 

Like it or not, public officials are supposed to be role models to a large degree. They govern us- they make the rules, they set the precedents and they are in unique positions of power. With that, comes extra scrutiny, slimeball media coverage and the rest. With the perks, come the burdens.

Well said George.  I agree with most of this. 

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Re: Gov. Sanford admits affair with mistress in Argentina
« Reply #118 on: July 03, 2009, 05:20:33 PM »
This is where you and I disagree. I don't believe public officials are supposed to be role models. I don't vote people into office to be role models. I vote them into office to take care of state business, run the economy, and to administrate policy. I think parents should be role models. Any parent who elects a public official to be a role model is a lazy fool. Build and maintain the roads, keep the water safe, administer the needs of the state, keep the economy strong, provide for collective defence and justice, ...but don't set yourself up to be a role model.

Jag we disagree about everything and this is no different. What you need to understand is that even if repubs didn't make this an issue, dems would still be looking to crucify repubs who cheated on their spouses. Its not a question of politics, its human nature. Why should the public trust a man or woman that couldnt even remain faithful to their husband or wife? Its a legitimate question regardless of what political party asks the question. It calls the opposing politicians character into question. Even if by and large people dont make a big deal out of cheating, its still a character issue + the public + the media + all opponents will eat it up. As I've said, I dont think cheating affects ones ability to govern. But unless like minded people like you and I somehow terminate human nature, partisan political character assasination and the bi partisan moral majorities morbid interest in the private affairs of public officials- this kind of scrutiny will never end+ inevitably these kinds of screw ups will destroy many careers. Whether a politician runs on family values or not, the effect of being unfaithful to ones spouse will not be minimized or maximized as a result. All is fair in love and war ( and politics).

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Re: Gov. Sanford admits affair with mistress in Argentina
« Reply #119 on: July 03, 2009, 05:52:29 PM »
Jag we disagree about everything and this is no different. What you need to understand is that even if repubs didn't make this an issue, dems would still be looking to crucify repubs who cheated on their spouses. Its not a question of politics, its human nature. Why should the public trust a man or woman that couldnt even remain faithful to their husband or wife? Its a legitimate question regardless of what political party asks the question. It calls the opposing politicians character into question. Even if by and large people dont make a big deal out of cheating, its still a character issue + the public + the media + all opponents will eat it up. As I've said, I dont think cheating affects ones ability to govern. But unless like minded people like you and I somehow terminate human nature, partisan political character assasination and the bi partisan moral majorities morbid interest in the private affairs of public officials- this kind of scrutiny will never end+ inevitably these kinds of screw ups will destroy many careers. Whether a politician runs on family values or not, the effect of being unfaithful to ones spouse will not be minimized or maximized as a result. All is fair in love and war ( and politics).

I agree with you somewhat, ...in that a politician's (any politician's) weakness, can and often will be held against him or her, however, when one runs on a hypocritical platform of family values, ...it simply magnifies his or her fall from grace that much more. Politicians need to stop running on phony platforms setting themselves up as the bastions for morality, fidelity, and family values, and get about the business of the people. The sooner they do that, ...the sooner they will stop going down for reasons unrelated to their job performance, ...and the sooner people will stop keeping incompetent fools in office simply because they attend church and are still married to their spouses.

Trudeau is a good example. He was the original political rock star. The media and the public were fascinated with this guy, following him everywhere and reporting on his personal life. I don't think I can recall a politician whose social life was under such a microscope. Here was a head of state who was single, Canada's most eligible bachelor at the time, who really savoured "the good life". He often travelled with an entourage of adoring young female fans, and when on state functions abroad, could often be seen in the company of beautiful women. The man frequently dated celebrities and was a reputed swinger. He had no problem telling reporters or opposition members to F-off, either in public, ...or on the floor of parliament. When he got married, he did so in secret, eloping with a 22 year old girl who was 30 years younger than himself, that no one had any clue he was even dating. Did the public hold it against him, ...hell no. When his young bride got caught by the papparrazzi partying it up with the Rolling Stones, did the public hold it against him?  Fifteen years later when he eventually divorced as many couples do (while still in office) ...the public also did not hold it against him. When you consider how conservative a lot we Canadians are... or rather were ...especially 40 years ago, you get an idea how much of a maverick he was. The thing is... he never ran on a platform of family values. He ran with the specific purpose of maintaining confederacy, squashing the Quebec separist movement, and repatriating the Canadian constitution. That was what he ran on, ...and that was why he was elected, ...and you know what... that's what he did. That's what the public cared about, and when he "stumbled" or was shown to be "human"... it wasn't held against him. The things that were held against him, were state matters he failed to accomplish, or policies his detractors disagreed with, ...and that's the way it should be in my opinion. Role models should be role models for the good that they do, ...not the offices they hold.
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Re: Gov. Sanford admits affair with mistress in Argentina
« Reply #120 on: July 03, 2009, 06:02:28 PM »
As I said earlier- Ones sexual appetite's shouldn't necessarily exclude their right to govern. IMO politics is a calling; talent and ability + hardwork shouldn't be negated based on an individuals sexual proclivities outside of marriage. But Jag- As I eluded to in my prior postings; the hypocrisy you contend is a major element of the right is NOT something that is the exclusive license of the right (to be used and hidden at will). Rather, as you concede to a large degree, it is a character flaw readily used as ammunition by whomever stands opposite to the target of such attacks. As a result, such character assassinations will stand tall, even in the absence of such buttresses as TRUTH/ CONSEQUENCE+ dare I say REASON that would make such allegations STRONGER, more RELEVANT and even DECISIVE when the average citizen makes his way to the polls.---?

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« Reply #121 on: July 03, 2009, 06:14:58 PM »
As I said earlier- Ones sexual appetite's shouldn't necessarily exclude their right to govern. IMO politics is a calling; talent and ability + hardwork shouldn't be negated based on an individuals sexual proclivities outside of marriage. But Jag- As I eluded to in my prior postings; the hypocrisy you contend is a major element of the right is NOT something that is the exclusive license of the right (to be used and hidden at will). Rather, as you concede to a large degree, it is a character flaw readily used as ammunition by whomever stands opposite to the target of such attacks. As a result, such character assassinations will stand tall, even in the absence of such buttresses as TRUTH/ CONSEQUENCE+ dare I say REASON that would make such allegations STRONGER, more RELEVANT and even DECISIVE when the average citizen makes his way to the polls.---?

I agree with this.
I hate the State.

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Re: Gov. Sanford admits affair with mistress in Argentina
« Reply #122 on: July 03, 2009, 06:19:47 PM »
As I said earlier- Ones sexual appetite's shouldn't necessarily exclude their right to govern. IMO politics is a calling; talent and ability + hardwork shouldn't be negated based on an individuals sexual proclivities outside of marriage. But Jag- As I eluded to in my prior postings; the hypocrisy you contend is a major element of the right is NOT something that is the exclusive license of the right (to be used and hidden at will). Rather, as you concede to a large degree, it is a character flaw readily used as ammunition by whomever stands opposite to the target of such attacks. As a result, such character assassinations will stand tall, even in the absence of such buttresses as TRUTH/ CONSEQUENCE+ dare I say REASON that would make such allegations STRONGER, more RELEVANT and even DECISIVE when the average citizen makes his way to the polls.---?

Only in a population of judgemental holier-than-thou prudes.  :D

I do think alot of the allegations of "cheating" aren't really cheating though. It's sad that it is often labelled so.
Call me cynical if you will, ...but I've come to a point in my life where I understand that many relationships that take place outside of marriage, often do so with the explicit consent of the so-called "aggrieved spouse", ...especially when it comes to high profile politicians. That's the part that I find so tragic. For many of these guys, their only "sin" was their lack of discretion. One of these days I'd love to see "an aggrieved spouse" come out and say "What my husband/wife did is none of your damned business". Just as I believe the state has no business in the bedrooms of the nation, ...I also believe the nation has no business in the bedrooms of their elected officials. Hypocrisy is a whole other story though, ...especially when it comes to those politicians who choose to dictate to the public how they should behave, and who conduct their romantic trysts on the tax payers dime.
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Re: Gov. Sanford admits affair with mistress in Argentina
« Reply #123 on: July 03, 2009, 06:23:27 PM »
Ok- Agreed Jag; So then do you not agree with my assertion that hypocrisy which acompanies unfaithfulness to ones spouse is a party neutral weapon and would, could, and should be implemented by Right, Left or Neutral Media Hound searching for the nearest 10 cent headline?

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Re: Gov. Sanford admits affair with mistress in Argentina
« Reply #124 on: July 03, 2009, 06:45:25 PM »
Ok- Agreed Jag; So then do you not agree with my assertion that hypocrisy which acompanies unfaithfulness to ones spouse is a party neutral weapon and would, could, and should be implemented by Right, Left or Neutral Media Hound searching for the nearest 10 cent headline?

If I'm following what you're saying, ...then I think we finally agree on something.  :)
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